Toggle sidebar

Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | Post Deadline Apocalypse: 3rd Time's a Charm? Stu, Stu, Stupider Management, May the Schwartz Be With You!

  • Xenforo Cloud has upgraded us to version 2.3.6. Please report any issues you experience.
  • We are currently aware of "log in/security error" issues that are affecting some users. We apologize and ask for your patience as we try to get these issues fixed.
belair said:
Then explain the Rantanen rumor, because the rumored extension doesn't make sense. They'd be handcuffing themselves again before they even start negotiations with Bouchard and McDavid.

The Oilers as it stands have about $15m in cap flexibility to re-sign Bouchard, Emberson and about four NHL regulars.
Click to expand...
Kane and Arvidsson have 1 year left as well as Kulak, that's 13m coming off the books after next season, so one more big contract on the books is feasible. Still, it handcuffs the team from filling out depth going forward until the cap takes a more meaningful jump. Good thing Draisaitl got locked up when he did, too bad that the McDavid and Bouchard contracts didn't expire earlier so they could have been extended before the projected big cap jump.

Oh and Henrique coming off the books so that's $16m out after next season. They obviously had a plan with a Rantanen contract in hand that I assume didn't include trading Bouchard which would be very short sighted and a big mistake.
Actually, Walman too so that's nearly $20m coming off the books but he's a guy you want to re-sign.
Wow Ekholm too, how did I forget him. Obviously he's a must sign as well but that's $26m coming off after next season. Skinner too but obviously you need to use that money for a new goalie.
Lots of moving parts the next two offseasons for the Oilers.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: Mr Positive and K1984
McHelpus said:
Yeah I don't understand this suspension... should be the entire year.
Click to expand...
Plus I don't see in the rules anything about the guilty player having to take more tests when he gets back. Maybe that does happen, like it's in the fine print somewhere, but that would be funny if true
 
  • Like
Reactions: McHelpus
Mr Positive said:
Bowman talked about the Rantanen trade. He didn't say it by name but it was obvious.

He said there was a trade that didn't get done because the other team wanted more than just futures. So in other words we didn't have a Stankhoven to give. We were never going to offer Bouchard.

Just logically, isn't it madness for a forward-heavy team to trade to top pairing D for yet another high AAV forward?
Click to expand...

So Holloway would have landed us Rants.
 
CupofOil said:
Kane and Arvidsson have 1 year left as well as Kulak, that's 13m coming off the books after next season, so one more big contract on the books is feasible. Still, it handcuffs the team from filling out depth going forward until the cap takes a more meaningful jump. Good thing Draisaitl got locked up when he did, too bad that the McDavid and Bouchard contracts didn't expire earlier so they could have been extended before the projected big cap jump.
Click to expand...
Despite the cap increases I don't think we should expect that to mean that we can add more cap heavy players. We are going to be paying more for players all up and down the lineup before long. Any grace period won't last long

Bumblebee Man said:
So Holloway would have landed us Rants.
Click to expand...
Which means us not matching Holloway was maybe a good thing. I don't buy Rantanen being worth 13-14 million aav
 
  • Like
Reactions: Louis Cypher
Oilhawks said:
Always came across as an entitled douchebag. That comment stands, even if the Oilers were “one of the four” as rumoured
Click to expand...
Players earn that right when they get to the UFA stage of their career. It’s pretty much their retirement contract so they want a place where them and their family can be happy. Especially a high profile UFA that can pick their spot.
 
McShogun99 said:
Players earn that right when they get to the UFA stage of their career. It’s pretty much their retirement contract so they want a place where them and their family can be happy. Especially a high profile UFA that can pick their spot.
Click to expand...

Cool, that’s all true but he could have probably given them a heads up before they traded for a guy they wanted to sign
 
North said:
Colorado probably made it clear they couldn’t talk deal before the trade.

Carolina just assumed they’d be able to sign him if they threw enough money at him.
Click to expand...

Yeah, only thing that would make sense, really.
 
CupofOil said:
Kane and Arvidsson have 1 year left as well as Kulak, that's 13m coming off the books after next season, so one more big contract on the books is feasible. Still, it handcuffs the team from filling out depth going forward until the cap takes a more meaningful jump. Good thing Draisaitl got locked up when he did, too bad that the McDavid and Bouchard contracts didn't expire earlier so they could have been extended before the projected big cap jump.

Oh and Henrique coming off the books so that's $16m out after next season. They obviously had a plan with a Rantanen contract in hand that I assume didn't include trading Bouchard which would be very short sighted and a big mistake.
Actually, Walman too so that's nearly $20m coming off the books but he's a guy you want to re-sign.
Wow Ekholm too, how did I forget him. Obviously he's a must sign as well but that's $26m coming off after next season. Skinner too but obviously you need to use that money for a new goalie.
Lots of moving parts the next two offseasons for the Oilers.
Click to expand...
I'm not sure how you would view moving him for trade capital as 'short-sighted' when the premise is extending the team's realistic Cup window by adding a prime elite forward and adding trade capital.

With the growing salary cap, I'm not confident that filling those roles is going to be as cheap as you'd expect because there's a good chance that future AAVs rise along with the cap. If Ekholm is still performing at a high level, his contract will undoubtedly reflect that. And odds are that Walman earns a sizeable raise.

And more importantly, we're focusing on '25-'26, where the Oilers have a little less than $15m in cap flexibility to get Bouchard and Emberson extended along with a half dozen other roster players. How are we consistently getting better if the plan is paring the roster down?
 
f*** it, any goalie we acquire now can't dress in the playoffs, but we need to stop the bleeding and maybe a vet would help Stu get his head right (if not his abysmal lateral movement). Go flip Detroit a 5th in 2028 or whatever for Talbot so he can calm things down the last 20 games and help us keep home ice over LA.
 
K1984 said:
I hate the Hurricanes for no reason other than analytics nerds love to shine them an Tulsky up as god's gift to hockey management and the model that everyone else is so dumb for not following.

Here's why they'll never be good:

1 - their owner is a cheapskate idiot that had the good fortune of getting there the moment that prior high draft picks panned out. The moment they need to spend they just won't, and they aren't making investments in the back end of their organization either.

2 - Tulsky might know how to work a spreadsheet, but clearly he doesn't know how deals work. If Rantanen was a rental to win a cup - great because it is only gravy if he re-sings. If re-signing him was part of the trade calculus, they're morons for not testing those waters first. The value in the end wasn't bad (Necas + Drury for (2) 1sts + Staknoven and Hall), but not when you're trying to win.

They seem to be setting themselves up to be a team that will be in the playoffs for a decade, but never a threat to actually win because their owner is a penny pincher that most agents despise.
Click to expand...
You really are a hater! Seems to me they were reacting on their shortcomings and willing to spend quite heavily 12 million isn;t chicken feed. They learned last year they needed a power forward and scoring -- well here was a guy exactly that. Would have made them a contender if things had worked out.
Yes they learned another lesson Tulsky did for sure. But oh to have a GM with his smarts -- of course he is making some rookie mistakes.
As for penny pinching owner, he is just doing his fricken job. Wish we had a an owner that cared enough about the team that he wouldn't hire some bozo with absolutely zero experience managing a hockey club and whose job was to maximize the take of his players.
Before you get all high and mighty realize there are two sides to the financial coin and that Carolina is not Edmonton. The man was doing his job.
Years ago Tulsky was part of a Co gm i recommended and funny enough had Spencer Carberry as the coach i would hire.
 
Scrapin Ice said:
You really are a hater! Seems to me they were reacting on their shortcomings and willing to spend quite heavily 12 million isn;t chicken feed. They learned last year they needed a power forward and scoring -- well here was a guy exactly that. Would have made them a contender if things had worked out.
Yes they learned another lesson Tulsky did for sure. But oh to have a GM with his smarts -- of course he is making some rookie mistakes.
As for penny pinching owner, he is just doing his fricken job. Wish we had a an owner that cared enough about the team that he wouldn't hire some bozo with absolutely zero experience managing a hockey club and whose job was to maximize the take of his players.
Before you get all high and mighty realize there are two sides to the financial coin and that Carolina is not Edmonton. The man was doing his job.
Years ago Tulsky was part of a Co gm i recommended and funny enough had Spencer Carberry as the coach i would hire.
Click to expand...

The owner is a cheap skate, and is considered the worst in the league by player agents by considerable margin.

Sorry this offends you.
 
The book on Jeff Skinner is an all-time best seller it would seem. Just low percentage shot after low percentage shot.
 
You know it would be nice to McDavid on a team with really good management.
You know ...like the Blues. LOL!
 
K1984 said:
The owner is a cheap skate, and is considered the worst in the league by player agents by considerable margin.

Sorry this offends you.
Click to expand...
I'm pointing out our management is fairly poor. I mean were not worse than Buffalo and yes were a low standard but i think most people would consider Carolina's management team quite a bit better than our sorry sack of shyte.

Under the BigTop!

Really not offended at all. Much better to have that reputation than absentee/gutless/poor ownership!
 
Last edited:
Scrapin Ice said:
I'm pointing out our management is fairly poor. I mean were not worse than Buffalo and yes were a low standard but i think most people would consider Carolina's management team quite a bit better than our sorry sack of shyte.

Under the BigTop!
Click to expand...

Our management have yet to do anything approaching the stupidity of dealing away scoring players with basically only futures in return as they are trying to purportedly win.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Latest posts

Ad

Ad

Top Bottom