Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread: Help Wanted

[Tarus]

It is his fault he won't engage in circumventing the cap?

It's not circumventing the cap, NHL is fine with it. They've openly told the GMs to go ahead.

Kane isn't ready to play anyways, he's not even practicing with the team yet.

 

[Took a pill in Sbisa]

He enjoyed his summer and got surgery at the end of it. Spare me it’s not at all his fault. Would have been a non issue.

Keep this same energy when he comes back early. It’s going to be ugly.

If you think he has any influence over when his operations were scheduled you have no idea how the NHL works

 

[BIeucheeseWithWings]

"I don't envision the Oilers being this tight to the cap next year"

isn't that why they didn't match the offer sheets??? to accrue space during the year??
FFS

Whew. I was already worried about TDL 2026.

 

[bucks_oil]

I can't believe the pitchforks are out for Kane. An easy target for the relentless. Bro wants to play. It is not his fault management f***ed up the cap. The nerds in the cap and analytics department are to blame. Kane is not at fault.

You must be joking.

I don’t think Kane is coming back, but if he does, he probably understands the dynamics of the cap and It’s impact on winning about as well as you seem to.

 

[foshizzle]

It is his fault he won't engage in circumventing the cap?

No, it’s his fault in delaying his medical procedures. It’s his fault for not opting for surgery last season when he knew he was hurt. Now, the team wants hi. At 100% health for the playoffs- and he wants to rush back early again so he does t lose his spot on the roster.

 

[Jarvi]

I can't believe the pitchforks are out for Kane. An easy target for the relentless. Bro wants to play. It is not his fault management f***ed up the cap. The nerds in the cap and analytics department are to blame. Kane is not at fault.

Kinda agree. We all rag on Stone for his shenanigans, then when we have a guy that's top prideful for that crap, we rag on him too.

I hope we keep Kane and he comes back with a vengeance. You know he will if we trade him.

 

[BIeucheeseWithWings]

It's not circumventing the cap, NHL is fine with it. They've openly told the GMs to go ahead.

Kane isn't ready to play anyways, he's not even practicing with the team yet.

I don't believe you.

 

[foshizzle]

If you think he has any influence over when his operations were scheduled you have no idea how the NHL works

He absolutely does. You think the NHL decides?

 

[McTonyBrar]

I can't believe the pitchforks are out for Kane. An easy target for the relentless. Bro wants to play. It is not his fault management f***ed up the cap. The nerds in the cap and analytics department are to blame. Kane is not at fault.

LOL so he can’t sit out until the f***ing playoffs? f*** off to Kane if he doesn’t decide to take a hit for the team

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

He would have returned by now had he opted for surgery following the end of the playoffs. Wouldn't have that affected the "accrued cap space?"

Nope.

 

[brentashton]

"I don't envision the Oilers being this tight to the cap next year"

isn't that why they didn't match the offer sheets??? to accrue space during the year??
FFS

Not saying you did, but might you have misheard things. Cap, Cup? Just asking?

 

[BIeucheeseWithWings]

LOL so he can’t sit out until the f***ing playoffs? f*** off to Kane if he doesn’t decide to take a hit for the team

Your anger should be with management. Kane didn't handcuff this team.

 

[McDNicks17]

No, it’s his fault in delaying his medical procedures. It’s his fault for not opting for surgery last season when he knew he was hurt. Now, the team wants hi. At 100% health for the playoffs- and he wants to rush back early again so he does t lose his spot on the roster.

Just to be clear, this isn't remotely true.

It's just people going bonkers because Seravelli said he was a "wild card".

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Your anger should be with management. Kane didn't handcuff this team.

I can be upset with both.

 

[brentashton]

LOL so he can’t sit out until the f***ing playoffs? f*** off to Kane if he doesn’t decide to take a hit for the team

So he should commit fraud if he can truly be ready to play before seasons end? I hate it as much as anyone but, I don’t think you ask a player to be deceitful like that. That’s just shitty leadership if so.

Like I said in other threads, the NHLPA would be all over this on Kane’s behalf, of so.

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

If you think he has any influence over when his operations were scheduled you have no idea how the NHL works

yes, yes he does.

 

[Jarvi]

Just to be clear, this isn't remotely true.

It's just people going bonkers because Seravelli said he was a "wild card".

Yeah, I don't think Kane is worried about losing his spot to combined 15 goals Podkolzin/Janmark/Arvidsson or weekly scratch Skinner.

 

[Tarus]

I don't believe you.

That's fine

It was back during the GM meetings on 2020 or 2021 though. Holland got a contingent of GMs together to complain about the LTIR loophole, especially in the case of Tbay where Kucharov practiced for two months while on the LTIR, and the NHL shut it down and told them as far as they were concerned, it was legal.

Asking Kane to wait a couple of weeks to get up to speed before the playoffs is far less egregious than some other examples of teams using the LTIR loophole.

 

[CupofOil]

So he should commit fraud if he can truly be ready to play before seasons end? I hate it as much as anyone but, I don’t think you ask a player to be deceitful like that. That’s just shitty leadership if so.

Like I said in other threads, the NHLPA would be all over this on Kane’s behalf, of so.

Well, Vegas and Tampa have been doing this for years or it was just a massive coincidence that Stone and Kucherov were miraculously ready for Game 1 of the playoffs. Now watch Tkachuk be miraculously back for Game 1 of the playoffs while Florida loads up for another Cup run Of course when it comes to the Oilers though? It's complicated, only them and easy peasy for everybody else.

 

[brentashton]

Well, Vegas and Tampa have been doing this for years or it was just a massive coincidence that Stone and Kucherov were miraculously ready for Game 1 of the playoffs. Now watch Tkachuk be miraculously back for Game 1 of the playoffs while Florida loads up for another Cup run Of course when it comes to the Oilers though? It's complicated, only them and easy peasy for everybody else.

What does any of that have to do with what I asked? If those players were in that situation and agreed, they are complicit in furthering the deceit and circumvention.

If Kane clearly has information suggesting he can be medically cleared to play before season’s end why should he be party to fraud?

 

[soothsayer]

"I don't envision the Oilers being this tight to the cap next year"

isn't that why they didn't match the offer sheets??? to accrue space during the year??
FFS

I swear they said this last year.

 

[belair]

It was stupid. I know people point out “the fan base was excited” but they miss out a huge part of that- the fan base assumed management would sign Holloway and Broberg. They didn’t which makes the signing of Skinner and Arvy look terrible. If you asked fans on June 30th, who would you rather have Holloway and Broberg or Skinner and Arvy- 10/10 would have chosen the former

Even with everyone unsigned. They were already a good team. They were the Cup finalist. Roll it back as much as you can and see who's left at the end of the summer who's willing to sign on the cheap. It's not a bad strategy.

I don't even hate the Henrique contract in all honesty. It was deserved. As were the Janmark and Brown extensions.

I think we should be out of the big fish market on July 1st though. We're a year late, but that cap flexibility is just too valuable.

 

[BIeucheeseWithWings]

That's fine

It was back during the GM meetings on 2020 or 2021 though. Holland got a contingent of GMs together to complain about the LTIR loophole, especially in the case of Tbay where Kucharov practiced for two months while on the LTIR, and the NHL shut it down and told them as far as they were concerned, it was legal.

Asking Kane to wait a couple of weeks to get up to speed before the playoffs is far less egregious than some other examples of teams using the LTIR loophole.

I find it difficult to believe that a player lying about an injury - so his team can accrue space - is not circumventing the cap.

 

[brentashton]

That's fine

It was back during the GM meetings on 2020 or 2021 though. Holland got a contingent of GMs together to complain about the LTIR loophole, especially in the case of Tbay where Kucharov practiced for two months while on the LTIR, and the NHL shut it down and told them as far as they were concerned, it was legal.

Asking Kane to wait a couple of weeks to get up to speed before the playoffs is far less egregious than some other examples of teams using the LTIR loophole.

You’re not wrong.

And if he declines to “sit out”, not much can be done about that.

 

[foshizzle]

Even with everyone unsigned. They were already a good team. They were the Cup finalist. Roll it back as much as you can and see who's left at the end of the summer who's willing to sign on the cheap. It's not a bad strategy.

I don't even hate the Henrique contract in all honesty. It was deserved. As were the Janmark and Brown extensions.

I think we should be out of the big fish market on July 1st though. We're a year late, but that cap flexibility is just too valuable.

100%. Bring your team back intact- then add. None of the players were asking for major dollars- Foegele got a slight bump. Holloway was rumoured at 1.5 and Broberg’s was 1.8. Take care of your own first.