Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread: Help Wanted

[McShogun99]

If I'm McDavid- I'm not signing an extension. This team and organization aren't serious about winning. Oilers scream 1st round exit. The front office is a joke compared to other teams. What upsets me the most is we have the 2 best players in the planet...and we still can't build a team around them

We’re 4 points out of first in the division despite a bad start to the season and a 5 game losing streak. I think Mcdavid is fine with the current direction of the team.

 

[CupofOil]

What does any of that have to do with what I asked? If those players were in that situation and agreed, they are complicit in furthering the deceit and circumvention.

If Kane clearly has information suggesting he can be medically cleared to play before season’s end why should he be party to fraud?

Well, I guess the Oilers are just clearly unlucky because the players on Tampa and Vegas were clearly complicit in deceiving the league so the Oilers just get dealt a shit hand once again as always while other teams are afforded flexibility to do what they need to do to improve the team.

 

[Tarus]

I find it difficult to believe that a player lying about an injury - so his team can accrue space - is not circumventing the cap.

If the NHL condones it, then it can't be circumvention

You’re not wrong.

And if he declines to “sit out”, not much can be done about that.

Other than trade him or scuttle their deadline plans

Which seems to be where we're at right now

 

[foshizzle]

I find it difficult to believe that a player lying about an injury - so his team can accrue space - is not circumventing the cap.

You can find it as difficult to believe as you want- the NHL, the ones making the rules, said it’s not.

 

[McShogun99]

Friedman said EDM wants F with speed and size, D that can play both sides and may do more depending on the Kane situation.

Sounds like they need an Evander Kane….

 

[McBooya42]

People have mentioned the trade demand in these threads.... wdym how would I know? Because I can read.

Oh ok. So you don't then, because neither do they.

 

[Cloned]

I still don’t get how they’re at this point of dollar in dollar out.

They did accrue cap space for a while before Kapanen and then Klingberg. That space should give them flexibility regardless of what happens with Kane, no?

 

[Jarvi]

If the NHL condones it, then it can't be circumvention

So you think the picks we had to give up for hiring Chia/McLellan, or the prorated Neal goals were fair and just?

Come on man, you can't use an appeal to authority with a league as obviously crooked in Bettmans NHL.

 

[foshizzle]

We’re 4 points out of first in the division despite a bad start to the season and a 5 game losing streak. I think Mcdavid is fine with the current direction of the team.

They were leading the division. They also are getting shit kicked by the best teams in the league (you know, the ones you play in the playoffs). They have a goalie who is near the bottom of the league in goals saved above expected/60, and very little support. They need McDavid to break his own record in the playoffs, Bouchard to break his, the PK to be the best ever again, and have one of the highest PPs of all time. I mean, totally doable, right?

 

[MessierThanThou]

We’re 4 points out of first in the division despite a bad start to the season and a 5 game losing streak. I think Mcdavid is fine with the current direction of the team.

Do you honestly think the roster as it is currently constructed and coached today is a legitimate Stanley Cup Contender? Given this team's record against top teams. Given the goaltending duo being 73rd and 75th in GSAx. Do you sincerely believe that and if so...did anyone teach you that it's puff-puff-PASS?

 

[McShogun99]

Yeah, I don't think Kane is worried about losing his spot to combined 15 goals Podkolzin/Janmark/Arvidsson or weekly scratch Skinner.

He’d instantly be our best LW if he’s healthy but of course the Oilers will move him with assets attached so they can spend more assets on a 4th line LW with size.

Do you honestly think the roster as it is currently constructed and coached today is a legitimate Stanley Cup Contender? Given this team's record against top teams. Given the goaltending duo being 73rd and 75th in GSAx. Do you sincerely believe that and if so...did anyone teach you that it's puff-puff-PASS?

I do not but they still have the deadline to fix some of the holes. The one thing we do know for certain is that Mcdavid and Draisaitl can carry this team thru playoff series if their healthy and mask some of those holes.

 

[brentashton]

If the NHL condones it, then it can't be circumvention


Other than trade him or scuttle their deadline plans

Which seems to be where we're at right now

And that they can do. But posters on here are pissed that he won’t lie down to help the team circumvent the cap. SMH.

 

[Tarus]

So you think the picks we had to give up for hiring Chia/McLellan, or the prorated Neal goals were fair and just?

Come on man, you can't use an appeal to authority with a league as obviously crooked in Bettmans NHL.

Are you quoting the right person here? I'm pointing out that teams have to operate under what the NHL dictates, not that the NHL is fair or consistent.

On a side note - Oilers got burned because Lowe and friends nagged the NHL for half a decade to add in compensation for executives being poached by other franchises after they lost Howson to Columbus. I'm sure the NHL was almost giddy when the Oilers became the primary victims of the newly established rule they reluctantly implemented, and the subsequent maintaining of awarded compensation standing despite the rule being pulled after less than a calendar year due to overwhelming protest was a big FU statement to those who had pushed for it in the first place.

 

[AddyTheWrath]

Your anger should be with management. Kane didn't handcuff this team.

Kane is handcuffing this team as we speak lol

 

[foshizzle]

He’d instantly be our best LW if he’s healthy but of course the Oilers will move him with assets attached so they can spend more assets on a 4th line LW with size.


I do not but they still have the deadline to fix some of the holes. The one thing we do know for certain is that Mcdavid and Draisaitl can carry this team thru playoff series if they’re healthy and mask some of those holes.

But how far can 2 players carry you when they are trying cover up for terrible goaltending and no offensive support? They can’t beat the top teams because they throw a wet blanket over those 2.

 

[AddyTheWrath]

I still don’t get how they’re at this point of dollar in dollar out.

They did accrue cap space for a while before Kapanen and then Klingberg. That space should give them flexibility regardless of what happens with Kane, no?

Your context answers your own question. It was used on Klingberg and Kapanen

 

[North]

f*** Kane and f*** this management. If f***ing bullshit like depth pieces is all we're going for and NOT EVEN A TOP SIX WINGER, fire this management NOW

Can we hold off on this until after the deadline passes?

You can chicken little all you like then.

 

[Jarvi]

He’d instantly be our best LW if he’s healthy but of course the Oilers will move him with assets attached so they can spend more assets on a 4th line LW with sisize.

And you know he will light it up if traded, and everyone here will bitch about it or make excuses why he couldn't do that here.

Everyone is quick to pan him if he doesn't want to circumvent the cap, saying he isnt a team player. What about this joke of an org? Where is their loyalty to the player? If he says he feels good, and he wants the games to get up to speed, why not trust him? You know they would with Davo or Leon. A top 6 power forward who can score goals like Kane is better than whatever piece of shit player they have probably targeted.

 

[MessierThanThou]

He’d instantly be our best LW if he’s healthy but of course the Oilers will move him with assets attached so they can spend more assets on a 4th line LW with size.


I do not but they still have the deadline to fix some of the holes. The one thing we do know for certain is that Mcdavid and Draisaitl can carry this team thru playoff series if their healthy and mask some of those holes.

You do realize that McDavid's performance isn't something he can just do every year, right? It's something that hadn't been seen in over 30 years. Banking on that to happen again is comically delusional, especially with his current, career-WORST slump.

 

[ConnorNova0929]

And you know he will light it up if traded, and everyone here will bitch about it or make excuses why he couldn't do that here.

Everyone is quick to pan him if he doesn't want to circumvent the cap, saying he isnt a team player. What about this joke of an org? Where is their loyalty to the player? If he says he feels good, and he wants the games to get up to speed, why not trust him? You know they would with Davo or Leon. A top 6 power forward who can score goals like Kane is better than whatever piece of shit player they have probably targeted.

And we don't even know if that's what he wants yet. It's all speculation and we will know more after Friday.

Until then, all the posters acting like they need diaper changes will have to be content with their tantrums lol

 

[McTonyBrar]

Escott said Oilers just need to find a doctor who can decide and say Kane won’t be ready until playoffs

So he should commit fraud if he can truly be ready to play before seasons end? I hate it as much as anyone but, I don’t think you ask a player to be deceitful like that. That’s just shitty leadership if so.

Like I said in other threads, the NHLPA would be all over this on Kane’s behalf, of so.

Stones done it, Kucherov has and Tkachuk is doing it now..

 

[brentashton]

Escott said Oilers just need to find a doctor who can decide and say Kane won’t be ready until playoffs

And all he has to do is have his medical staff say otherwise and it’s a shit show. It’s not that simple.

Escott said Oilers just need to find a doctor who can decide and say Kane won’t be ready until playoffs


Stones done it, Kucherov has and Tkachuk is doing it now..

You and I will never know if those circumstance are the same and the players are agreeing to circumvent the cap.

 

[Jarvi]

Are you quoting the right person here? I'm pointing out that teams have to operate under what the NHL dictates, not that the NHL is fair or consistent.

On a side note - Oilers got burned because Lowe and friends nagged the NHL for half a decade to add in compensation for executives being poached by other franchises after they lost Howson to Columbus. I'm sure the NHL was almost giddy when the Oilers became the primary victims of the newly established rule they reluctantly implemented, and the subsequent maintaining of awarded compensation standing despite the rule being pulled after less than a calendar year due to overwhelming protest was a big FU statement to those who had pushed for it in the first place.

Yes, you are the right person. Just because the NHL plays favoritism and allows TB and the VGK to be shady with the cap, doesn't mean its fair or just. And it wouldn't be if we did it either, if Kane is truly ready to go before seasons end. Saying "the NHL says it's fine" is an appeal to authority. The league can call it whatever they want, but it is circumventing the cap. Honestly, I hope they fix the loophole. If a player is on IR before the TDL until the playoffs, then they can't play round 1, healthy or not. Or something, idk, but it needs to be fixed.

That is an interesting tidbit there. I didn't know all that. I can see why they wanted to hammer us, for sure.

 

[GhostfaceWu]

You must be joking.

I don’t think Kane is coming back, but if he does, he probably understands the dynamics of the cap and It’s impact on winning about as well as you seem to.

Help us cheat or you're a piece of shit that seems to be the mentality of the absurd on this board. Same people had the pitchforks out against kucherov and stone are the same ones saying this type of crap about Kane.

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

Hey if by the grace of the gods Kane is actually healthy by playoffs I’m happy with that too. I still think we would have beaten florida if he was healthy.