Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | Forwards & Goaltending Under a Microscope, Which Bottom 6 Forwards Do You Keep?

[aggressive forecheck]

It wasn't a top unit in the league last year, and one of Nurse's biggest faults is he doesn't have the brain for the game. That's more exposed in extra man play. Plus, we need another RH shot on the PP, not a lefty who has never been a good with the man advantage.

Plus GM's aren't that dumb. They would see the clear increase in pts due to PP time. Increase his 5v5 output though, with subtle changes to deployment? Yeah, that would work.

In the regular season, playing with the best players in the league with power play time, Nurse will look great and the team acquiring him will be happy as a clam.

Your defense, with Kulak on the first pairing is shit. 110% shit.

 

[McDrai]

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Wonder what Bob has got cooking

Bye Bye Nurse

 

[Lay Z Boy GM]

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Wonder what Bob has got cooking

Please be a Nurse trade

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

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Wonder what Bob has got cooking

A med chicken.

 

[Lay Z Boy GM]

In the regular season, playing with the best players in the league with power play time, Nurse will look great and the team acquiring him will be happy as a clam.

Your defense, with Kulak on the first pairing is shit. 110% shit.

How many points do you think he’d get on an average team with all the PP time he could ask for?

I think he’d struggle to hit 40 points. We tried him plenty on the PP and he can’t think fast enough, instead of making basic passes he’d just panic and fumble the puck or dump it in.. on the PP ffs.

 

[McDoused]

If you could just walk away from Nurse and sign a Fabbro or Perbix for 3.5 - 4M that's an 5.25M in cap space.

Ekholm-Bouchard
Walman-Fabbro
Kulak-Emberson

Then use that extra money for a #1 goalie or a top 6 dman and were probably a more rounded team.

 

[aggressive forecheck]

A med chicken.

It's 6 pm... a big med chicken turd is more like it.

 

[Lay Z Boy GM]

I keep checking throughout the day even though I know nothing probably happens until the draft. I just want a goalie man it’s really not too much to ask. So tired of media and probably management acting like goalies are mythical creatures that nobody has ever encountered. You’ve had years, plenty of goalies have moved over the last few years. There is no excuse. Fans knew it wasn’t good enough, it’s just common sense to anyone paying attention.

 

[Ck1]

Arvidson and Henrique accept a trade
Arvidson,Henrique and Kane all moved for pics giving use 12 mil more cap space
One can dream

 

[North]

Nurse is still the weak link. Who could we get to try and get the best out of him?

Nobody. Inevitably Nurse’s inability to think the game sewers whomever plays with him.

 

[aggressive forecheck]

How many points do you think he’d get on an average team with all the PP time he could ask for?

I think he’d struggle to hit 40 points. We tried him plenty on the PP and he can’t think fast enough, instead of making basic passes he’d just panic and fumble the puck or dump it in.. on the PP ffs.

Matters what team, what division he's in. Who is the coach and what system the team plays. What defensive system they play. Who's his partner, how deep is the team defense. Who are the forwards. How good is the goaltender. Where do they stand in the NHL pecking order.

You hit the nail on the head when it comes to advanced stats asking that question... they are no universal metrics on the same team no less on a team that has completly different personel playing an entirely different system.

Give Nurse 100% offensive starts and 1st unit pp time on the Oilers and he'd look great during the regular season. That's my opinion.

Nurse isn't a bad player, he's just proven several years in a row he isn't a fit for the Edmonton Oilers at this time.

 

[Jarvi]

I keep checking throughout the day even though I know nothing probably happens until the draft. I just want a goalie man it’s really not too much to ask. So tired of media and probably management acting like goalies are mythical creatures that nobody has ever encountered. You’ve had years, plenty of goalies have moved over the last few years. There is no excuse. Fans knew it wasn’t good enough, it’s just common sense to anyone paying attention.

There just isn't any surefire options, or even close to it.

Gibson hadn't had a good year until he got the backup role.
Hofer could be getting the Husso treatment, and we saw how that worked out for Detroit.
UPL was outplayed by old ass James Reimer.
Demko has major injury concerns.
Jake Allen is 34, and someone thought he could get 5 million!

Add in that Stu is right at the age where we have seen goalies take that next step, plus all his experience, and I can see the apprehension in moving him out.

Plus we are paying 2.3m this year for Campbell.

I don't envy Bowman with the goalie situation.

 

[1981 Oilers]

A med chicken.

Must be in a diet

 

[McTonyBrar]

This is what Stauffer said word for word

 

[Tarus]

Hate it when Stauffer does this. He played that Gibson clip and hasn't said anything related to it since. The hell was he trying to do?

He's dropping a teasing hint that may or may not be true to drive show engagement and bring in listeners

What did you think he was doing?

 

[WaitingForUser]

At least Schultz was a decent player.

Sure once he was put on a team where he wasn’t expected to be a number 1 or even a top 4 for that matter. He was sinking here badly

 

[FlameChampion]

He's dropping a teasing hint that may or may not be true to drive show engagement and bring in listeners

What did you think he was doing?

As much as I love the rumours lol, this is where I am at too.

I feel like Stauffer didn’t really know what Holland was doing the last couple of years. I guess we will see if its different under Bowman.

 

[WaitingForUser]

We lost good young players because our interim GM chose to jump at what he viewed as attractive undervalued veteran players instead of prioritizing the young players.

It didn't turn out very well, but it was well received at the time.

And it should have worked we had two proven goal scorers to play with Leon. Unfortunately one was buried by our coach for an unknown reasons and the other fell off a cliff.

 

[Jarvi]

This is what Stauffer said word for word

I hope the approach is aiming higher with fewer mid ticket additions, more surefire options, and getting a bunch of cheap overlooked youth to fight for spots.

 

[aggressive forecheck]

I hope the approach is aiming higher with fewer mid ticket additions, more surefire options, and getting a bunch of cheap overlooked youth to fight for spots.

For what, the exact same results? Swap out players not good enough for a bunch of players who are just as bad, possibly even worse.

 

[Captain Controversy]

Nurse for Karlsson at 50 percent.

 

[CupofOil]

I think both Leon and Connor are done with the goaltending carousel. Would not surprise me if both told Bowman get a goalie or we want out to be honest.

This is fair of course but McDavid and Draisaitl were also a reason why the Oilers lost to the Panthers. It's not like they played up to their capability and the team was only sunk by goaltending, they didn't carry their weight either.

Now, the Oilers would be nowhere without them two so I just want to reiterate that but in terms of the just the Florida series, McDavid and Draisaitl were also a big part of the problem.

 

[FlameChampion]

Nurse for Karlsson at 50 percent.

Dubas has never met a Sue Greyhound he never loved

 

[AddyTheWrath]

This is fair of course but McDavid and Draisaitl were also a reason why the Oilers lost to the Panthers. It's not like they played up to their capability and the team was only sunk by goaltending, they didn't carry their weight either.

Now, the Oilers would be nowhere without them two so I just want to reiterate that but in terms of the just the Florida series, McDavid and Draisaitl were also a big part of the problem.

Didn’t help that they were playing on an island though. Their best linemates were each other and 40 year old Corey Perry

 

[Kinibo]

This is on the money. At some point, early, in that series Dallas only objective was taking out our players. Dallas had given up by game 2. So they end up taking out Hyman, Klingberg, Brown, Nuge. Most of the players were clear retaliation, premeditation, moment Marchment lines up Hyman you know what he's going for. Hit on Brown was a trainwreck. These were obvious attempts to injure. From a frustrated angry Dallas club.

But Oilers with Kane, Nurse, Frederic, Walman did nothing about it. They just watched the carnage happen. So that we won the Dallas series easy, but perhaps pyrrhic victory as it set stage to lose the biggest battle

Marchment knew fully what he was doing. Take out Hyman and we're done going forward .

And this is one of the reasons why I feel myself inching ever closer to losing interest and enthusiasm for this game. It’s not about best on best. It’s about whatever team can avoid injury to enough of its key players to ice a lineup in the final that even remotely resembles the group that started the playoffs. Two years in a row now we’ve been in the same boat because the game is essentially lawless and for whatever reason we seem to be affected by it the most. Sure, Florida was the far better team, but were they better than an Oiler team that wasn’t missing half its forward group? Maybe, maybe not. But we’ll never know for sure. Good on the Panthers for finding a system and players so well adapted to exploiting a league that carries no rulebook, but it’s not the game I want to watch. This entire run was nearly impossible to enjoy because I knew we were a few key injuries away from being rendered irrelevant, and it felt like I was watching every game with my hands over my eyes peeking through my fingers.

This was our year. And it’s over and we may well not be back. Not with this management group, not with a declining McDrai, and not in this corrupt and gambling driven league. And in a soon to be 34 team league, the odds will be stacked even further against any team north of the border. It just isn’t in the NHL’s interest. It’s too much, and it’s really not that much fun anymore. Pessimistic maybe, but that’s the feeling I came away with.