Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | Forwards & Goaltending Under a Microscope, Which Bottom 6 Forwards Do You Keep?

[BeranekAndNeck]

Because Andersen f***ing sucks.

But Carolina committed to him already right after being eliminated with an extension plus they also have Kotchetkov. I think they stand pat on the goalie front for now with the intent of keeping as much cap available for Marner as possible.

Either way, Gibson floating this via the media is the biggest gift our FO will ever get. I hope to f*** they are smart enough to recognize it and act accordingly. Don’t even care what futures it costs either- the time for screwing the pooch in net is over.

Trade for him and I bet you Connor throws that 3-year contract offer in the trash and signs the 8-year one right after. That’s how big and important a move this is.

 

[BeranekAndNeck]

Wonder what that looks like with double retention - would a team want to buy a 3rd round pick for 1.6 million? Is that actually a 4th round?

Double retention isn’t really necessary if the Ducks take back Stu, which I am sure they would be fine to do since Dostal will still need a decent backup after they move Gibson. Skinner would be much less frustrating if he only played 30ish games a year, and Anaheim may think with a real goalie coach that he can be rehabilitated into a halfway decent tender.

O’Reilly, Akey, Stu for Gibson with 50% retention. Negligible cap difference and we won’t be in a position to get SOR’s best until 2030 at least so who cares really.

Gibson-Pickard is a solid tandem for the year, and then maybe we look to sign someone like Lyon as a ringer who can come up from Bako and play if/when Gibson suffers his annual mid-season injury.

 

[Jay Harris]

Double retention isn’t really necessary if the Ducks take back Stu, which I am sure they would be fine to do since Dostal will still need a decent backup after they move Gibson. Skinner would be much less frustrating if he only played 30ish games a year, and Anaheim may think with a real goalie coach that he can be rehabilitated into a halfway decent tender.

O’Reilly, Akey, Stu for Gibson with 50% retention. Negligible cap difference and we won’t be in a position to get SOR’s best until 2030 at least so who cares really.

Gibson-Pickard is a solid tandem for the year, and then maybe we look to sign someone like Lyon as a ringer who can come up from Bako and play if/when Gibson suffers his annual mid-season injury.

Too much of our future in this trade in my opinion.... Still need good players coming onto team on rookie deals for cap purposes

 

[Sinnerella]

Ok, I see. Yeah all my numbers are regular season, odd that Brownie ended up with the most toi considering his ailments and issues I believe he had.

One thing I will say, everytime I start looking deeper into defensive #'s and rates, zone starts, linemates and competition, Henrique comes out looking really good. 27 pts +2(+playoffs) doesn't look anything special on its face, but all things considered I don't know how easy it would be to replace it at under 3m. Should have a contract year jump in his step too, so I hope he can stay through the cap crunch.

3rd line c lol

Double retention isn’t really necessary if the Ducks take back Stu, which I am sure they would be fine to do since Dostal will still need a decent backup after they move Gibson. Skinner would be much less frustrating if he only played 30ish games a year, and Anaheim may think with a real goalie coach that he can be rehabilitated into a halfway decent tender.

O’Reilly, Akey, Stu for Gibson with 50% retention. Negligible cap difference and we won’t be in a position to get SOR’s best until 2030 at least so who cares really.

Gibson-Pickard is a solid tandem for the year, and then maybe we look to sign someone like Lyon as a ringer who can come up from Bako and play if/when Gibson suffers his annual mid-season injury.

Is pickard your neighbour?

 

[BeranekAndNeck]

Too much of our future in this trade in my opinion.... Still need good players coming onto team on rookie deals for cap purposes

It’s a lot, no question, but I don’t see an elite secondary scorer in O’Reilly and certainly not in the next three years when we’re still in our window. Our amateur scouting will just need to keep focusing on identifying worthwhile older Euros and NCAA FAs to fill in the gaps, and they got a good start this year with Hutson/Tomasek/Leppanen.

 

[BeranekAndNeck]

Is pickard your neighbour?

I would love to upgrade on Picks no question, but if the difference is $1M between he and an appreciably better backup I would rather use that money to improve on our top nine. Gibson will get the lion’s share of starts anyway.

 

[North]

Double retention isn’t really necessary if the Ducks take back Stu, which I am sure they would be fine to do since Dostal will still need a decent backup after they move Gibson. Skinner would be much less frustrating if he only played 30ish games a year, and Anaheim may think with a real goalie coach that he can be rehabilitated into a halfway decent tender.

O’Reilly, Akey, Stu for Gibson with 50% retention. Negligible cap difference and we won’t be in a position to get SOR’s best until 2030 at least so who cares really.

Gibson-Pickard is a solid tandem for the year, and then maybe we look to sign someone like Lyon as a ringer who can come up from Bako and play if/when Gibson suffers his annual mid-season injury.

Are you kidding with this offer?

 

[foshizzle]

I feel like Brown's PK ability is pretty overrated. Going by OIGA/60, he has the worst numbers for pk fwds from this year at 9.3. For perspective, Henrique is 6.5, Mcleod last year was 4.5 and Foegele 6.2. Kapanen was 2.7.

I feel like he skates around a lot doing his puckhounding, which can look nice, but idk how effective he is at actually killing the penalty when that fails.

I'm a big Brown fan, but I don't wanna see him back at 2.5. We just don't have the room. I'd give him whatever term if we could get the hit ~1.5 though.

This. He just skates around with his stick mid-air. He doesn’t actually prevent anything.

 

[BeranekAndNeck]

Are you kidding with this offer?

No one else is trading us a starter for less, would you rather Connor walk?

 

[North]

No one else is trading us a starter for less, would you rather Connor walk?

I’m not trading that much of our future for a just okay Gibson. Be for real.

 

[BeranekAndNeck]

I’m not trading that much of our future for a just okay Gibson. Be for real.

What’s the alternative?

 

[McSuper]

Double retention isn’t really necessary if the Ducks take back Stu, which I am sure they would be fine to do since Dostal will still need a decent backup after they move Gibson. Skinner would be much less frustrating if he only played 30ish games a year, and Anaheim may think with a real goalie coach that he can be rehabilitated into a halfway decent tender.

O’Reilly, Akey, Stu for Gibson with 50% retention. Negligible cap difference and we won’t be in a position to get SOR’s best until 2030 at least so who cares really.

Gibson-Pickard is a solid tandem for the year, and then maybe we look to sign someone like Lyon as a ringer who can come up from Bako and play if/when Gibson suffers his annual mid-season injury.

The Oilers are not trading O’Reilly or Akey(yet). They would probably sign Hart first or trade Skinner + a cast off forward + a mid round pick

 

[ThePhoenixx]

So what kind of RH defenseman can Kulak + get in a trade?

 

[BeranekAndNeck]

The Oilers are not trading O’Reilly or Akey(yet). They would probably sign Hart first or trade Skinner + a cast off forward + a mid round pick

A cast off forward and mid round pick won’t get them a starter. Again, do we want to fantasize about O’Reilly maybe one day becoming a 3C or do we want Connor to stay? Easy choice from where I sit.

 

[Bring Back Bucky]

Kapanen is a great 13th forward. If he’s motivated like he was in the playoffs he can slot in pretty much anywhere in the lineup and his physical lay was a revelation in the playoffs. For a million I would absolutely give him a 2 year deal.

 

[foshizzle]

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[Wreckus]

What’s the alternative?

That's the million dollar question.

 

[soothsayer]

That's the million dollar question.

Don't you mean, "7.74 million" dollar question.

 

[Wreckus]

Don't you mean, "7.74 million" dollar question.

lol, nice one.

 

[McShogun99]

If we trade for Gibson then I’d still want to keep Skinner around unless we offer sheet Hofer and run Gibson/Hofer.

I really just want us to offer sheet Hofer and every year we offer sheet one Blues player to a slight inflated contract that is small enough to make them match but over the years we add like 10% to their cap from all the slightly inflated offersheets that when they get competitive they can never get over the hump because that extra 10% they could have used for depth has now been wasted on years of matching offer sheets from the Oilers.

 

[Took a pill in Sbisa]

Because Andersen f***ing sucks.

lmao would love to hear the argument how Gibson is better than Andersen

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

lmao would love to hear the argument how Gibson is better than Andersen

I don’t think Gibson is all that much better mind you. Andersen is just good for his usual playoff meltdown or injury.

 

[North]

What’s the alternative?

We can trade for him but it’s not going to cost that much. If we’re parting with those assets we’re getting a far better goalie.

 

[ThreeOfAPerfectPair]

They aren’t always right but why say all this?

>McDavid knows he has an understanding the bar he sets helps others players to get paid as well

This take makes no sense when there's fixed pie of cap to go around.

 

[McTonyBrar]

I’m going to listen to that Pagnotta Gibson bit. I wonder if it means he’s willing to come here even if Skinner is here. Only reason we didn’t pull a Gibson trade at the deadline was because he wanted to be the #1 and didn’t want to share the crease