Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | Dermott on a PTO, Will We See More PTO's? Can We Get Some Toughness Too Please?

[smokersarejokers]

Do we know why Philip took a year off?

Personal reasons. I think the media knows, but are respecting his privacy.

I remember Stauffer and others saying something like, "what he went through would be hard for anyone to deal with."

So maybe he'll be comfortable talking about publicly one day, but for now it's good to see him back smiling and playing well.

 

[nafrelio]

I’d start with a Time Machine

I was going to tell you a joke about time travel...but you didn't like it.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Not who you asked, but at this point not only does Philp have a shot at 4C, but I'd argue he's the favourite to win it. Great preseason from him so far.

I'm curious to see how they handle Philp. Even though he's had a great camp, Ryan's also been strong in his own right. Hamblin also hasn't been bad.

Imo the best approach is sending him down and giving him big minutes in Bakersfield for 6 weeks or so to get his legs back to withstand the grind of the entire season. Limited minutes on the 4th line or in the PB don't help with that.

In any case, he's done an outstanding job making me forget about McLeod and I'm nowhere as concerned about an injury to Henrique sinking the bottom 6.

 

[ujju2]

I'm curious to see how they handle Philp. Even though he's had a great camp, Ryan's also been strong in his own right. Hamblin also hasn't been bad.

Imo the best approach is sending him down and giving him big minutes in Bakersfield for 6 weeks or so to get his legs back to withstand the grind of the entire season. Limited minutes on the 4th line or in the PB don't help with that.

In any case, he's done an outstanding job making me forget about McLeod and I'm nowhere as concerned about an injury to Henrique sinking the bottom 6.

This is a perfectly fair take. As far as my own opinion is concerned, what I would like to see is Perry sent down, and a lineup that looks like this:

Nuge-McDavid-Hyman
Skinner-Draisaitl-Arvidsson
Lavoie/Podkolzin-Henrique-Brown
Janmark-Philp-Ryan/Lavoie

with one of Ryan/Lavoie/Pod being the 13F. With that said, I really can't see them sending Perry down, so I think your scenario makes sense, with Philp getting essentially a conditioning sting in the AHL so we don't lose Lavoie on waivers. Not much point in sending Ryan down, we agree on that.

Edit: Forgot to address Hamblin. I really like the player and think there might be a good 4C there (I liked him last season as well) but I'm not sure he'll get that opportunity tbh.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

I'm curious to see how they handle Philp. Even though he's had a great camp, Ryan's also been strong in his own right. Hamblin also hasn't been bad.

Imo the best approach is sending him down and giving him big minutes in Bakersfield for 6 weeks or so to get his legs back to withstand the grind of the entire season. Limited minutes on the 4th line or in the PB don't help with that.

In any case, he's done an outstanding job making me forget about McLeod and I'm nowhere as concerned about an injury to Henrique sinking the bottom 6.

I’d send him down and centering the top line in Bakersfield, with savoie on his wing

 

[powerserge]

This is a perfectly fair take. As far as my own opinion is concerned, what I would like to see is Perry sent down, and a lineup that looks like this:

Nuge-McDavid-Hyman
Skinner-Draisaitl-Arvidsson
Lavoie/Podkolzin-Henrique-Brown
Janmark-Philp-Ryan/Lavoie

with one of Ryan/Lavoie/Pod being the 13F. With that said, I really can't see them sending Perry down, so I think your scenario makes sense, with Philp getting essentially a conditioning sting in the AHL so we don't lose Lavoie on waivers. Not much point in sending Ryan down, we agree on that.

Edit: Forgot to address Hamblin. I really like the player and think there might be a good 4C there (I liked him last season as well) but I'm not sure he'll get that opportunity tbh.

Hamblin and Philp are waiver exempt. Above you forgot that Kane is taking a roster spot, he is on IR, not LTIR.

Understand Oilers like Perry's leadership but his roster spot is putting us into a bind. If at any point Oilers want to call up Savoie then he too needs to be on the opening roster so that his bonuses do not count if he were to get called up.

So many moving pieces. There is no way to not expose Lavoie unless you expose Ryan or Perry or start the season with Kane on LTIR. I too would like Perry sent down but it probably won't happen, if it does you can fit Lavoie, if you put Kane on LTIR after the season starts (to accrue cap) then you can have Philp on the team.

Another solution is to start the season with only 6 D. Risky but then you can have 14 forwards and still start the season with 900k ish cap space.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Hoffman released from PTO

 

[Zerotonine]

Hoffman released from PTO

That was quick, esp seeing as he was putting up points

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Hoffman released from PTO

No room at the Inn I guess? He looked better than I expected TBH.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

No room at the Inn I guess? He looked better than I expected TBH.

I thought he looked better than I expected also, I just don’t think he brings anything lavoie can’t do and the oilers might want to go with the home grown player

 

[MessierII]

Hoffman released from PTO

No surprise. He was never going to fit here. Another team might scoop him though wouldn’t shock me.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

I thought he looked better than I expected also, I just don’t think he brings anything lavoie can’t do and the oilers might want to go with the home grown player

Lavoie adds being a RH shot and a lot more size to the mix.

 

[VeteranPresence]

No room at the Inn I guess? He looked better than I expected TBH.

I don't like it. This team needs depth and especially experienced depth that can contribute in a variety of roles. This group played 100+ games last year and they'll need to do it again to win a Cup. That's a lot of hockey, which means a lot of injuries, load management, and line matching to account for. Perry shouldn't be a regular everyday guy and we're not sure Podkolzin or Lavoie are there yet, so why not hedge your bets with a proven top nine winger?

I think this bites us come deadline time and we're forced to pony up a pick for a similar type of player from our rapidly dwindling stockpile of them. This is the first real decision of the Bowman/Jackson era I don't love and if this goes hand in hand with no real changes on the right side of our D to enter the year, that's two misses for a would-be contender.

 

[Thomas Tatar]

I thought he looked better than I expected also, I just don’t think he brings anything lavoie can’t do and the oilers might want to go with the home grown player

Which is the right call.