Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | Dermott on a PTO, Will We See More PTO's? Can We Get Some Toughness Too Please?

[joestevens29]

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[Behind Enemy Lines]

The leafs absolutely didn’t leave cap to protect against an offersheet

The Leafs had $955,333 in cap space remaining after their free agency work. Robertson was never a threat for RFA signing and they closed the loop with a cheap signing likely to facilitate a trade.

Adding that he didn't have a RFA buddy at a more desirable and harder position to acquire from which to leverage against.

 

[K1984]

This was why a Barrie PTO/signing might have been a sneaky good play... you give him the primo PP time for the regular season instead and force Bouch to prove he can be a true top pairing guy 5-on-5. You might see Bouch's numbers drop to 60-70 points instead of 80+ which means some cap savings while also making him a better player overall.

Is it worth burning that bridge ahead of a lengthy extension for what may end up only being $1-2M? Probably not, which is why JJ is the Prez and not me. I still think a fair number ends up being $10-10.5.

Inhibiting his biggest strength in order to diminish his results is certainly not the right way to go.

Please don't risk something like that with a player like this. Get him signed. Then there is no worry with him. With the top 6 we have this year, he may get over 82 points

What risk? He's an RFA.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

The Leafs had $955,333 in cap space remaining after their free agency work. Robertson was never a threat for RFA signing and they closed the loop with a cheap signing likely to facilitate a trade.

So what you’re saying is they didn’t leave cap space and squeezed their RFA.

 

[McTonyBrar]

Inhibiting his biggest strength in order to diminish his results is certainly not the right way to go.



What risk? He's an RFA.

Offersheet?..

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

So what you’re saying is they didn’t leave cap space and squeezed their RFA.

No I'm saying that middle fringe wingers are most plentiful supply option and easiest positionally to replace. Added that he didn't have the benefit of a big mobile age 23 puck moving RFA buddy to leverage against. Offer sheets aren't squandered on easy replaceable pieces.

 

[K1984]

Offersheet?..

Besides the fact that it's highly unlikely that would occur, it would be matched.

 

[McTonyBrar]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1836447062768128355

Kass is a scout lol

 

[McDoused]

The way Bowman talked about Kane, he expects him to be out for a LONG time. I do wonder if they put him on LTIR to start the season and use that space on immediate help on that RHD spot.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1836447062768128355

Kass is a scout lol

Brad Holland replacement?

 

[McTonyBrar]

The way Bowman talked about Kane, he expects him to be out for a LONG time. I do wonder if they put him on LTIR to start the season and use that space on immediate help on that RHD spot.



Brad Holland replacement?

Depends. Bowman also said the next two weeks are heavily important when it comes to their top 4 RD solution. Maybe we see a player fall out of favour and we jump at the opportunity?

 

[McBeastMode]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1836450830444302744

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

No I'm saying that middle fringe wingers are most plentiful supply option and easiest positionally to replace. Added that he didn't have the benefit of a big mobile age 23 puck moving RFA buddy to leverage against. Offer sheets aren't squandered on easy replaceable pieces.

Holloway is about as replaceable as they get.

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

The way Bowman talked about Kane, he expects him to be out for a LONG time. I do wonder if they put him on LTIR to start the season and use that space on immediate help on that RHD spot.



Brad Holland replacement?

I didn't have the sense from his interview. Pretty cautious about medical information rightly so that it should be communicated by their medical staff. Think Stan is likely a better poker player than GM Ken Holland. See what they have in camp, assess waiver wire opportunities when it comes up. Had a good answer about Emberson in which I think one of his underrated value-adds will be his deep knowledge and experience with U.S. hockey pipeline (Emberson, Fischer).

 

[North]

Holloway is about as replaceable as they get.

Apparently the Broberg of it all changes things or something. I don’t even know why this is still being discussed.

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

Holloway is about as replaceable as they get.

I think Holloway has more utility than Robertson but agree somewhat with your point. Reasonably easy pivot to Podkolzin as a low cost second chance dice roll. The prize in this league are centres and top 4 d-men. Winger supply is plentiful and non-elite talent is fairly easy to replace.

 

[KCC]

Is it a W move though? Unless he’s out all year this is a worse move than doing it earlier

He’s going to be out for quite a long time.

 

[GOilers88]

I feel like it seemed worse this year because the Trade board on the mains was listing every AHL invite as a PTO to camp for some reason which was new this year

Ah maybe that's why.

 

[McHelpus]

So is Shattenkirk and Schultz out of the picture?

 

[McTonyBrar]

Ty Emberson looks like that kid from the movie “We’re the Millers”

So is Shattenkirk and Schultz out of the picture?

I don’t think so. Next two weeks will decide which way we move on defence. Seems like it from what Bowman said

 

[Oilslick941611]

Hopefully no one’s vomiting over this PTO

you just know someone is treating this like we signed him to a 7 year contract and yelling at their walls.

 

[McTonyBrar]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1836454859417010323

I like him already. Seems like a confident and smart kid

 

[Oilslick941611]

So is Shattenkirk and Schultz out of the picture?

They probably aren't willing to sign a PTO and are waiting for a contract.

 

[Oilslick941611]

The Leafs had $955,333 in cap space remaining after their free agency work. Robertson was never a threat for RFA signing and they closed the loop with a cheap signing likely to facilitate a trade.

Adding that he didn't have a RFA buddy at a more desirable and harder position to acquire from which to leverage against.

and if some team offered Robertson 2.3mil they would walk from his as we did from Holloway.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

He’s going to be out for quite a long time.

Still, unless he’s out all year, we don’t gain any benefit from putting him on LTIR

Holloway is about as replaceable as they get.

Robertson is probably the better player right now also.

But apparently the oilers should’ve kept 6m in space open so we could overpay our RFA’s.

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

and if some team offered Robertson 2.3mil they would walk from his as we did from Holloway.

Except zero teams would offer Robertson $2.3 million. So it's really a non issue as the player didn't have an RFA pedigree big mobile d-man as wingman through this process. Even which he's a much more narrow player type than Holloway. The real prize was always Broberg. The opportunity space was a 2 fer situation.