Rumor: Rumors and Proposals Thread: The Post Draft Apocalypse/Countdown to Free Agent Frenzy

[nabob]

Sports isn't about winning.
Believe it or not, it's about revenue.

Revenue is achieved through branding and marketing more than on-ice results.

Hiring an alleged rapist is absolutely f***ing ATROCIOUS for branding and marketing. It's a literal nightmare. You can only hope a team in a market that doesn't know anything about hockey gets him, so he can duck and cover and play without the scrutiny.


Bill Cosby is now deemed "innocent" in accordance with a court of law. He is out of jail.
Try casting him in a movie and seeing how well the movie does.

You can scream all you want about comedic chops, or his acting ability, the problem is Bill Cosby is going to tank your movie no matter how good the movie might be.

Yep I understand all of that and agree.

I’m not up to speed on the Cosby case. Thought he was found guilty? That’s messed up.

 

[nabob]

How hard would it have been for him to add “my mistake, deadline is tomorrow” instead of pretending like that’s just a continuation of his earlier tweet.

Seems that isn’t his first time trying to pull that kind of move instead of saying he was wrong or didn’t know.

 

[Fourier]

Interesting that they had a trade in the works to get rid of Neal’s contract. Means there’s probably at least a chance of it happening…there’s also a chance that Margo Robbie will marry me as well.

Who on HFOil gets an invitation to the wedding. Inquiring minds would like to know???

 

[Broberg Speed]

Gregor legit has as many sources as me lmfao.

And you should know because you are one of Gregor's sources.

 

[McShogun99]

Sports isn't about winning.
Believe it or not, it's about revenue.

Revenue is achieved through branding and marketing more than on-ice results.

Hiring an alleged rapist is absolutely f***ing ATROCIOUS for branding and marketing. It's a literal nightmare. You can only hope a team in a market that doesn't know anything about hockey gets him, so he can duck and cover and play without the scrutiny.


Bill Cosby is now deemed "innocent" in accordance with a court of law. He is out of jail.
Try casting him in a movie and seeing how well the movie does.

You can scream all you want about comedic chops, or his acting ability, the problem is Bill Cosby is going to tank your movie no matter how good the movie might be.

Even without the rape any Bill Cosby movie made in the last 30 years would have flopped.

 

[Trafalgar Sadge Law]

Rumor has it Pius Suter isn't being qualified. I'd definitely give him a shot if that's the case as long as it's short-term.

 

[North]

Sports isn't about winning.
Believe it or not, it's about revenue.

Revenue is achieved through branding and marketing more than on-ice results.

Hiring an alleged rapist is absolutely f***ing ATROCIOUS for branding and marketing. It's a literal nightmare. You can only hope a team in a market that doesn't know anything about hockey gets him, so he can duck and cover and play without the scrutiny.


Bill Cosby is now deemed "innocent" in accordance with a court of law. He is out of jail.
Try casting him in a movie and seeing how well the movie does.

You can scream all you want about comedic chops, or his acting ability, the problem is Bill Cosby is going to tank your movie no matter how good the movie might be.

Well to be clear Cosby admitted he drugged the women. The issue was that he had an agreement with the previous DA that the one who prosecuted ignored. That’s why his conviction was overturned.

But this is not the place for that conversation.

 

[AM]

This is false, he got off with a technicality......he admitted guilt, just another reason many women won't come forward, especially if the person is rich and powerful.

My understanding is that he admitted guilt in a money trail, but only if it couldnt be used in any criminal trial.

Then the prosecutor used it anyways.

And of course they are different things. If you want something to go away writing a statement to get it to go away for some money is alot different then admitting guilt when you are going to jail.

 

[Asiaoil]

You posted a single case from 1997, you need way more data to prove you statement..if it is clear post proof? it happens but it is a very small portion of actual cases.

I posted that one because it was Vancouver and athletic. Not sure what you are arguing. Of course public accusations are the tip of the iceberg. Nobody disputes that. But there are also lots of false accusations. Go talk to any divorce lawyer to understand how shitty people can be through greed or malice. Either he ruined her life (more likely) or she ruined his (less likely but still possible). Don't want Vittanen and let the courts sort out the sordid affair. Keep the whole thing far away from the Oilers.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Yep I understand all of that and agree.

I’m not up to speed on the Cosby case. Thought he was found guilty? That’s messed up.

Basically the original prosecutor said they wouldn't prosecute him, the next one did, they appealed and the judge pretty much agreed that because they originally told him they wouldn't prosecute it shouldn't of been allowed.

The "justice" system is anything but.

Cosby was out in a matter of hours but guys who are falsely proven in jail, literally proven innocent years later still take months to years to actually get out of jail.

Burn the rich lol

 

[Fourier]

Vegas is reportedly close to re-signing Martinez at $5M+. That puts them at the cap with 20 players signed. Toronto has $9M in cap space with 17 contracts and according to the media is in on every UFA. Tampa has $750K in cap sapce with 17 players signed. Any bargains to be had??

 

[jesusbuiltmyhotrod]

My understanding is that he admitted guilt in a money trail, but only if it couldnt be used in any criminal trial.

Then the prosecutor used it anyways.

And of course they are different things. If you want something to go away writing a statement to get it to go away for some money is alot different then admitting guilt when you are going to jail.

he is guilty lol..come on, 60 women who never knew each other are not in on a conspiracy...if you are innocent you would not admit guilt period. He is out because he was rich...a random dude would not get offered that deal in the first place.

 

[Tarus]

Yep I understand all of that and agree.

I’m not up to speed on the Cosby case. Thought he was found guilty? That’s messed up.

They convicted him based on evidence that wasn't allowed to be used in the trial, so the verdict was thrown out.

That's not even counting the severe inconsistencies in primary victim's story, the judge presiding over the case running a political campaign on promising to prosecute Cosby, or the entire dog and pony show kicked off by Janice Dickenson who ended up getting caught lying to sell her biography.

 

[CycloneSweep]

he is guilty lol..come on, 60 women wh never knew each other are not in on a comnspiracy...if you are innocent you would not admit guilt period.

The bolded is absolute bullshit. The amount of people who get convinced to admit guilt and please guilty to avoid worse changes just to clear up shit in courts is disgusting

 

[AM]

he is guilty lol..come on, 60 women wh never knew each other are not in on a comnspiracy...if you are innocent you would not admit guilt period.

If you say so. Tell me again why he is out of jail?

 

[oXo Cube]

Yep I understand all of that and agree.

I’m not up to speed on the Cosby case. Thought he was found guilty? That’s messed up.

Cosby was essentially found guilty on a case built mostly on inadmissible evidence. The appeal that overturned his conviction was the correct legal decision.

Of course, the inadmissible evidence in question was a personal confession of guilt, so make of that as you will.

 

[Snipes45]

Why the **** are we talking about Cosby in here lol

 

[jesusbuiltmyhotrod]

The bolded is absolute bullshit. The amount of people who get convinced to admit guilt and please guilty to avoid worse changes just to clear up shit in courts is disgusting

You are talking about co-erced confession....cosby's was not coerced, with his money and power he would never admit guilt..it was 60 women dude come on. This is why many women won't come forward.

 

[Shathar]

wow. I hope something hockey related happens soon!

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

well this thread is off the rails

 

[jesusbuiltmyhotrod]

Why the **** are we talking about Cosby in here lol

Slow news day lol..need a hockey move

 

[CycloneSweep]

You are talking about co-erced confession....cosby's was not coerced, with his money and power he would never admit guilt..it was 60 women dude come on. This is why many women won't come forward.

I'm not disagreeing about Cosby. I'm disagreeing with that one point you made. People confess to shit they didn't so all the time in trials.

 

[bobbythebrain]

He’s headed to jail or the KHL. Guess we’ll see.

It's a civil lawsuit, not criminal. It will be monetary compensation if he is found guilty

 

[Wretched Oil]

Some gross dudes on here

 

[Bum]

Jason Gregor is a loser.

Want to know why? Because losers always lose and he lost a long time ago.