Rumor: Rumors and Proposals Thread | Reseason Training Camp Opens July 13th?

[CycloneSweep]

AA was on the ice yesterday and had been in Ontario practicing for some time. The writer doesn't have much to base it on being AA.

I think the alleged the player tested positive a while ago. So it could be anyone if they have passed the tests and are now fine

 

[Samus44]

Its worse than that. They abolished the rule BEFORE the Oilers had to give up the picks and grandfathered in the penalty just the same.

Yet managed to give Lou and the Devils their 1st round pick back for weaseling out of the Kovalchuk contract. They also allowed LA out of the brutal Richards contract. The game is great but the league is a joke. Let's not even get started on reffing and DoPS. It's always been clear to me the American teams get the benefit of the doubt every time, hence Dallas got the bye. Lets just hope the fact this debate involves Calgary confuses them on who to f*** over.

 

[The Nuge]

Yet managed to give Lou and the Devils their 1st round pick back for weaseling out of the Kovalchuk contract. They also allowed LA out of the brutal Richards contract. The game is great but the league is a joke. Let's not even get started on reffing and DoPS. It's always been clear to me the American teams get the benefit of the doubt every time, hence Dallas got the bye. Lets just hope the fact this debate involves Calgary confuses them on who to f*** over.

Dallas getting the bye actually annoys the hell out of me. It switching from divisions to conferences to decide who qualifies doesn’t make any sense considering that’s not the format that’s in use. The fact Dallas was on a 6 game losing streak, and were behind us in the standings just twists the knife further

 

[Faelko]

this is a league that made the Oilers give up a 2nd and 3rd for Chia and McLellan...then promptly abolished those idiotic rules

nothing surprises me with them

I was just arguing about this the other day with someone. Did any other team have to give up a pick for hiring fired management/coaches? I can’t think of another example but there has to be one doesn’t there?

 

[Faelko]

Dallas getting the bye actually annoys the hell out of me. It switching from divisions to conferences to decide who qualifies doesn’t make any sense considering that’s not the format that’s in use. The fact Dallas was on a 6 game losing streak, and were behind us in the standings just twists the knife further

I was told it was just sour grapes because I was an Oilers fan. It made all the divisional play pointless during the season to skip right to a conference winning percentage.

god I hate the morons that run this league...

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

I was just arguing about this the other day with someone. Did any other team have to give up a pick for hiring fired management/coaches? I can’t think of another example but there has to be one doesn’t there?

not that I know of

 

[MessierII]

I was just arguing about this the other day with someone. Did any other team have to give up a pick for hiring fired management/coaches? I can’t think of another example but there has to be one doesn’t there?

Yeah a bunch of teams. Leafs for Babcock, Sabre’s for Bylsma, Jersey for Hynes. It happened a bunch.

 

[fireantz]

Did anyone new skate today? Don’t like Smith, Jones and Green still in USA

 

[bone]

I was just arguing about this the other day with someone. Did any other team have to give up a pick for hiring fired management/coaches? I can’t think of another example but there has to be one doesn’t there?

I didn't think there was. The Oilers hires exposed that clause, which is why it was promptly voted out as it didn't meet the intent (preventing teams from scooping active coaches). However, since the rule was in place at the time the hires occurred they were enforced. I think it was ultimately the right decision, just stupid that the clause was so poorly written to allow that to happen.
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Correction, there were a couple others as well, but all in the same year as the clause was only in place a short time. What's weird to me is that I thought Babcock's contract expired, not that he was fired. So I don't know why Detroit would have got compensation.

 

[MessierII]

I didn't think there was. The Oilers hires exposed that clause, which is why it was promptly voted out as it didn't meet the intent (preventing teams from scooping active coaches). However, since the rule was in place at the time the hires occurred they were enforced. I think it was ultimately the right decision, just stupid that the clause was so poorly written to allow that to happen.
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Correction, there were a couple others as well, but all in the same year as the clause was only in place a short time. What's weird to me is that I thought Babcock's contract expired, not that he was fired. So I don't know why Detroit would have got compensation.

The rule was intended so if you developed a coach over so many years and he was poached to be a head coach you would get some compensation. Good rule in spirit but when they started including fired coaches and guys who expired is when it got out of control. They could have just re worded it properly and it would have been fine but nhl will nhl.

 

[The Nuge]

I was told it was just sour grapes because I was an Oilers fan. It made all the divisional play pointless during the season to skip right to a conference winning percentage.

god I hate the morons that run this league...

Exactly. It should have been 2 from each division, and then the other 8 are a “wildcard”. Just like how the league actually runs. The fact they came up with entirely new standings, that only screwed us, is just so NHL...

The rule was intended so if you developed a coach over so many years and he was poached to be a head coach you would get some compensation. Good rule in spirit but when they started including fired coaches and guys who expired is when it got out of control. They could have just re worded it properly and it would have been fine but nhl will nhl.

Ya, that was the worst part of it. They did it in a way other than what the fans were calling for, and when the fans complained that it doesn’t work, they went “we told you it doesn’t work”, and scrapped it entirely. To this day, I still really like the idea of it if they would have done it properly.

It would have been fair to pay a pick for Holland, since he was still employed by the Wings, but it was ridiculous that we had to give one for Chia.

 

[BarDownBobo]

I do have questions as to why Klefbom hasn't gotten back yet. He's, uh, kind of important.

Did anyone new skate today? Don’t like Smith, Jones and Green still in USA

 

[Samus44]

Nvm

 

[McTonyBrar]

Just deal with this the way Putin deals with dissenters. Chuck Treliving out his 55th floor window at the JW late one night and leave an empty bottle of rye in his room at the broken window.

Problem solved.

Agreed

 

[Dazed and Confused]

not that I know of

Columbus and Torts, I believe.

But yeah, if the condition had just been Neal getting to 21, I'd at least hear the argument for prorating his totals. However considering the fact that Lucic was right there in getting to within 10 of Neal, you can't in good faith say the Flames where 100% getting that pick. Especially when Neal was coming back from a bummed ankle, and Lucic had a few goals down the stretch.

 

[Smartguy]

Dallas getting the bye actually annoys the hell out of me. It switching from divisions to conferences to decide who qualifies doesn’t make any sense considering that’s not the format that’s in use. The fact Dallas was on a 6 game losing streak, and were behind us in the standings just twists the knife further

Why is anyone concerned about us not getting the bye? The play in games are going to be way more intense than the other Bye games and those teams are going to be way better off starting the playoffs for it.

If we can’t beat Chicago in a best of 5 we don’t deserve to play in the playoffs, they are a much weaker team then us who sold off there better goalie. The only thing they have going for them is experience, but newsflash, this is not like anything they’ve played through before either.

Also if we lose we have a shot at first pick, or a higher pick then we would have gotten, which is better than having to play one of those winning play in teams in the first round fresh off a battle just to get in.

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

Did anyone new skate today? Don’t like Smith, Jones and Green still in USA

Smith has been here for a while now IIRC
Here’s video of some of today’s skate

 

[McTonyBrar]

Lol Canucks trying to move Boeser

 

[Oilhawks]

Lol Canucks trying to move Boeser

We can offer them a (not so) gently used Neal and a 3rd

BTW, where do you see this?

 

[Mr Positive]

I was just arguing about this the other day with someone. Did any other team have to give up a pick for hiring fired management/coaches? I can’t think of another example but there has to be one doesn’t there?

The league made Columbus pay it for Torts after they got rid of the rule, just to be fair lol. But we were the only ones. What bugs me about it is that league could have ruled in our favor based on the "spirit of the rule", which has been cited in other cases

 

[Mr Positive]

Lol Canucks trying to move Boeser

Based on that main boards thread I dont blame them. Both him and Petterson are good but overrated.

It's also a nice offseason to have cap space.

The timing of the rumour is bad though. We are nowhere near trading time. Boeser is about to fight for the cup with Vancouver. Idk maybe they leaked this to light a fire under him

 

[McTonyBrar]

We can offer them a (not so) gently used Neal and a 3rd

BTW, where do you see this?

Rick Dhaliwal Tweet

 

[Took a pill in Sbisa]

Why do the best players that have been on the block over the past couple years seem to all be in our division? Throw us a bone here

 

[Cloned]

So since the NHL ruled that the qualifiers are officially considered the postseason, the pick that VAN traded to TB for JT Miller (which TB traded to NJ for Blake Coleman) could end up being 1st overall if VAN loses in the qualifier and win the lottery.

I'd like to see this happen, please. Maybe it'd be the first trade in NHL history that causes two GMs of two different teams to get fired.

 

[BlackDogg]

Here is the tweet