The return edmonton got for Pronger after the playoff run is more relevant to the discussion, where he had 4 years left on his contract.
The return St.Louis got is not something anyone could consider a reasonable comparison given the circumstances(new cap, St.Louis nearly broke and up for sale, former hart winning D allowed to get close to UFA status and put on the market after injury plagued seasons). Brewer(somewhat disappointing D in the middle of his prime), Lynch(badly injured and already busting), and Woychowika(declining asset) was highway robbery
I think both were highway robbery, both for us an against us. I dont think you can say Brewer was dissappointing when traded. Put up 4 years of 25+ points as a 21-25 year old. but yes it was a steal. #1 D arent traded unless of extreme circumstances. Ie your team is broke, your wife forces you to leave, or your GM is a nut.
When Pronger was traded to Anahiem he had more value as he was coming off a monster playoff performance. Smid was a key cog, id say equal in value to Brewer. The picks were good but they were low, low picks. The only saving grace in that trade is that they won the cup, and that 1st became Eberle. If it wasnt for those two major things, that trade would have been horrible
This is actually a great post (minus the end), use Pronger's trade as a benchmark since he's the last elite defenseman that was traded.
Lupul (23 year old 7th overall)
Smid (20 year old 9th overall)
1st round pick 2007
2nd round pick 2007
1st round pick 2008 (conditional)
That's the value of a signed franchise defenseman.
Lupuls value had severly depreciated, id put his value around Yakupovs right now, maybeYak + 2nd is same. Those picks werent high either, 30th, 53rd, 23 (cond)
But this can be down for Hall too. If you look in the past, guys like him traded for quantity almost always got hosed in the trade. Has there ever been a trade in which the team receiving quantity actually won? It seems like the only time that happens is if team gets EXTREMELY lucky at drafting. Or if they trade a piece received in that trade for another asset, then that asset becomes something
As fans we have to deal with 2 very conflicting things. 1) As fans we want max value for our assets and well propose any deal to get them. Thats being pragmatic 2) The reality that superstar players traded almost never return something close to FV
So I HOPE if Hall or Eberle or RNH is traded they get max fair value. But I know that this is extremely unlikely to happen. Thats why id rather hold on to the higher value ones and trade lower value ones for lesser D. If we are going to lose trades, id rather lose smaller
But hey, Jones was just dealt for Johansen in 1 for 1 swap, maybe these deals happen more often
but theres been a lot of smoke around him past 2 months
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