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Best doesn't mean attractive. I find it hilarious you're saying scoring goals doesn't mean attractive when you're a fan of the coach who plays the most boring football while scoring goals in the history of the game.
And which 3 finals?
I don't even know if any NT EVER has reached 3 finals in 4 tournaments like Euro and WC. And the 2 losses came from a PK shootout and a once in a lifetime lucky strike.
So save the "weird that you like it". Everyone would.
If France had played more open, they probably wouldn't have reached all those finals.
Yeah I was talking 3 in 4 as being competitive for 8 straight years.Okay, then you can choose West Germany from 1972 to 1976 (3 in 3) or 1972 - 1982 (5 in 6) or even 1972 to 1990 (7 in 10) or 1972 to 1996 (9 in 13) .
Yeah I was talking 3 in 4 as being competitive for 8 straight years.
Spain did it more recently than Germany.
I do think Euro 16 should have been a win though.
WC 22 is just tough luck.
You and I have very different memories of Euro 16, I think, because my recollection is that Germany were pretty terrible from the first kick of the tournament until they eventually went out. I don't recall the specifics of that SF, but that is how I remember the tourney for Germany.Euro 16 should've been a loss in the SFs ;-)
...but yeah, I thought both our teams were stronger than Portugal's, even though they Rehagel'd their way to a title...
Can't say it should have been except in your dreams. France was the better team.Euro 16 should've been a loss in the SFs ;-)
...but yeah, I thought both our teams were stronger than Portugal's, even though they Rehagel'd their way to a title...
Can't say it should have been except in your dreams. France was the better team.
You and I have very different memories of Euro 16, I think, because my recollection is that Germany were pretty terrible from the first kick of the tournament until they eventually went out. I don't recall the specifics of that SF, but that is how I remember the tourney for Germany.
We dominated early with a big Griez chance to top it off.After halftime you were. In the first half, Germany was obviously superior. We failed to capitalize and then you got your head out of your ass for the second half, but in that first half you were on the back foot the entire time.
Also in hindsight a lot of people gloss over that 2014 QF like it was just a minor part of the journey (since the SF and Final are obviously the most memorable games). Arguably that France team was the toughest opponent Germany played that tournament.
It's funny what tricks memory can play. Higuain had one big chance after a big Kroos mistake, and honestly people overstate how good a chance it actually was. Not only was Higuain surprised that he got the ball, he had a defender closing in on the back, and Neuer coming out in front. Other than taking a quick shot (with sub-optimal body position), he didn't have a ton of options. Obviously you can score on that, and given the context you want to score on that, but it's not the sitter of all sitters that people portray it as.I don't know about being the toughest opponents in 2014, but if Higuain had been even a half-decent finisher in the final, he would have scored at least two from all the chances he got.
Also Germany could have lost against Algeria if not for the greatest ever sweeper-keeper performance by Neuer, clearing so many counter attacks all by himself.
Okay, if I ever have time, looks like I need to re-watch the matchIt's funny what tricks memory can play. Higuain had one big chance after a big Kroos mistake, and honestly people overstate how good a chance it actually was. Not only was Higuain surprised that he got the ball, he had a defender closing in on the back, and Neuer coming out in front. Other than taking a quick shot (with sub-optimal body position), he didn't have a ton of options. Obviously you can score on that, and given the context you want to score on that, but it's not the sitter of all sitters that people portray it as.
Higuain then scored a disallowed goal where he was offside by a mile (which is probably where the confusion arises that he had multiple big chances).
The best Argentinian chance in the game in my mind was actually by Messi in the 2nd half who took a clean shot from a typical goal scoring position about 10 yards out. While that was also no sitter because it was at an angle and Neuer was well-positioned, a player like Messi scores on that 80% of the time. He just didn't quite place it right.
Jesus, you made quite a leap from your other post... Goals = Attractive (Usually) then go on to say my favourite coach plays the most boring football and scores the most goals in the history of the game. Wow looool you are losing it my friend. You would be on your knees if Pep went to PSG. PLENTY of boring coaches out there, Pep plays the prettiest football. There really isnt anyone close to him.Best doesn't mean attractive. I find it hilarious you're saying scoring goals doesn't mean attractive when you're a fan of the coach who plays the most boring football while scoring goals in the history of the game.
And which 3 finals?
I don't even know if any NT EVER has reached 3 finals in 4 tournaments like Euro and WC. And the 2 losses came from a PK shootout and a once in a lifetime lucky strike.
So save the "weird that you like it". Everyone would.
If France had played more open, they probably wouldn't have reached all those finals.
No they haven't. In the last 40 years, there have been 14 Copa of which Argentina have been in the final times (2 of which are the ones they lost back to back) and Brasil have been in the finals 7 times in the timespan. Neither of which are MOST years. Overall Uruguay are tied with Argentina with the most Copa trophies and have been in more finals than Brasil.Yeah it's why I specified Euro.
Brazil and Argentina are usually in the Copa final most years.
Of course I'd be over the moon. He is the best coach and arguably the best ever. Doesn't change my point.Jesus, you made quite a leap from your other post... Goals = Attractive (Usually) then go on to say my favourite coach plays the most boring football and scores the most goals in the history of the game. Wow looool you are losing it my friend. You would be on your knees if Pep went to PSG. PLENTY of boring coaches out there, Pep plays the prettiest football. There really isnt anyone close to him.
Argentina lost 2014,2015 and 2016 finals. This was not a success. Improvement over their earlier years but no it wasn't successful.
So I checked.No they haven't. In the last 40 years, there have been 14 Copa of which Argentina have been in the final times (2 of which are the ones they lost back to back) and Brasil have been in the finals 7 times in the timespan. Neither of which are MOST years. Overall Uruguay are tied with Argentina with the most Copa trophies and have been in more finals than Brasil.
Nothing ironic about my post. Pep doesn’t play boring football let alone the most boring football in history. Gross hyperbole. Unlike DD, pep actually wins.Of course I'd be over the moon. He is the best coach and arguably the best ever. Doesn't change my point.
And yes you lost the plot. I pointed out the ironic nature of your post.
You are still wrong. Losing to a shit Portugal team in 2016 isn’t a success and losing to a bad Argentina with one WC player is also not a success.So I checked.
In 48 editions, Argentina won 15 times and reached the final 29 times. Reached the SF 36 times out of 48. So yeah... I don't think that's comparable to Euro. No team could reach 36 out of 48 semi finals here.
Brazil seems modest with 31 semis and 21 finals.
Let's be honest. Only 3 teams are playing the Copa. The rest are just showing up. And they're playing every 2 or 3 years.
So it's much more likely to play 3 finals in 4 tournaments for Argentina or Brazil anytime they reach a WC final. Which is, per your ideas, extremely easy when you have the best team. Even more than that, not reach the final but winning it. Because losing it is a failure for you.