Prospect Info: Round 4, 120th overall: Alex Ciernik, F, Södertälje SK (HockeyAllsvenskan)

deadhead

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He has been Nybro's best player... by base stats and underlying stats.

Leads the team in points, +6 when no-one else is over +2, and has over 51% xGF (2nd on the team) on a team that averages 45% xGF...

The team just don't score. And he is primarily a playmaking winger.
They're a bad team, but how much do you discount for teammates?
Next best forwards have 10, 8, and 8 (13g) points.

Knuble, 17 points in 12 games, next best (16g), 14, 13, 11

Jett 16 points in 13 games, next best (20-23g) 19, 18, 13,

And where do you find these advanced stats for obscure leagues?
 

Appleyard

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They're a bad team, but how much do you discount for teammates?
Next best forwards have 10, 8, and 8 (13g) points.

Knuble, 17 points in 12 games, next best (16g), 14, 13, 11

Jett 16 points in 13 games, next best (20-23g) 19, 18, 13,

And where do you find these advanced stats for obscure leagues?

Well, you can look at who the other forwards are and their track records and see that Ciernik would probably be up over 0.75 P/GP on a decent team! And that he has developed since last year for sure. And you can see game by game how much he influences play when on ice.

There are two specific services that offer such stats for basically every pro league and a lot of junior leagues too. But they are not "really" for the public tbh given price point etc... they are there for pro teams and agencies.
 

Beef Invictus

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Unfortunately, his D+2 season suggests Beef totally missed the boat.
22g 5-7 12 in Allsvenskan.
That's not very good. Especially for a 20 year old player (Oct B-day).

Berglund is 18 months younger and is starting in the SHL.

I think you have misunderstood the nature of the boat. Some boats are designed to go underwater and then strike with maximum surprise and devastation. Ciernik is such a boat.
 

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