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Prospect Info: Round 2 - Pick #58 - D Mason Lohrei - Green Bay Gamblers / USHL - 20/21

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CDJ said:
I’ll change the number to 100 and the point remains the same. Still a crapshoot! The difference in odds of finding an impact guy is negligible

but even then you don’t know teams draft boards...and on top of that- again- it was a strange year for scouts from February on. I guarantee there is a wide variety of opinions with wildly different draft boards from team to team
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Then he should probably just trade down and pick these guys where they are projected. At least that way he gets more picks to take flyers on.
 
CDJ said:
outside projections mean f*** all to NHL teams. They pay their own guys a lot of money to come up with their draft board
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That’s kind of the point though. If Boston were to fire their entire scouting staff and GM and just use Bob McKenzie, we’d be waaaaaaay ahead right now
 
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Dicky113 said:
That’s kind of the point though. If Boston were to fire their entire scouting staff and GM and just use Bob McKenzie, we’d be waaaaaaay ahead right now
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That part is very true and very sad. We have got lucky on a few players over the last few years but have missed a ton that were no brainers.

If any of these far reach picks worked out well beyond what everyone thought, then you could give the Bruins credit over the rest of the league but they are not even close. There is one thing when a player is picked say 20th but was projected say 25th and player drafted 21st becomes a superstar and the 20th is a bust. At least everyone had them in the ballpark around that pick and you had bad luck. But when they are picked rounds earlier than projected and are a bust you just look like you have no clue what you are doing.
 
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Dennis Bonvie said:
Jeremie Poirier was a consensus first round pick. He went 72nd to Calgary.

Lets see where he stands compared to Mason Lohrei in 3 years.
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We aren't allowed to talk about old drafts anymore. But look back historically on who was a reach at the time. And how they were 3 years later.

Can't say this the scouting teams draft record has me hopeful.

But I guess we will all see. Hope Mr. Harvard proves us all wrong.
 
Never heard of Louhri but one of I was told by one of my ‘go to draft buds’ that never go against the Bruins on D and guys in the USHL.

he’s also 6’4 and LHD which is what I want

otherwise I have 0.0 knowledge before pick

the other guy Trevor Kunter was a great pick ~ I drafted hin two months ago in the SIM and had probably spent a few hours during the pandemic stuck in House researching him and loved him

Pick 1 : WTF???? No idea (I hated Bergeron pick for same reason)

pick 2: love it

Kirk Leudeke’s a GM in the USHL who plays against the guy so I’ll go with what he says

Kirk also is the guy when I trashed the Bergeron pick the afternoon back in June 2003 told me via PM that weekend and when I saw him soon after Bergeron could be steal of the draft

 
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Hate the spot and hate the fit, but i like the idea of drafting players who are currently producing vs players who they project to produce. Frederic, beecher, senyshyn all projected to produce. None quite have to the level a 1st should yet. At least this kid while still being a reach like the former 3 were, produced at a high rate at his level. And hes big. Sweeney loves drafting size
 
You're gonna tell me this guy wasn't gonna be there in a later round? Sweeney needs to stop thinking he's smarter than everyone at drafting and just make the right f***ing pick.
 
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HuskyBruinPride said:
You're gonna tell me this guy wasn't gonna be there in a later round? Sweeney needs to stop thinking he's smarter than everyone at drafting and just make the right f***ing pick.
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If that is player they wanted, then who cares if he was going to be there later in the round or not? They got the guy they wanted when they wanted to take him. Time will tell whether it was a good move or not.
 
Gotta give him a chance before hate this pick. However, having said that, the last time they thought they were the smartest in the room was a big failure. So lets see.
 
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Dr Hook said:
If that is player they wanted, then who cares if he was going to be there later in the round or not? They got the guy they wanted when they wanted to take him. Time will tell whether it was a good move or not.
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Funny that's being said. The Bruins under Sweeney have been taking the guy they wanted for several drafts. With the exception of McAvoy and Pasta, the few players that they actually hit on (DeBrusk, Carlo) are the ones that are in the rumor mill to be moved or already have been (Lindgren playing his almost first full season with the Rangers last year).

I just hope the scouting team is a lot luckier with this pick than past ones.
 
WhalerTurnedBruin55 said:
Funny that's being said. The Bruins under Sweeney have been taking the guy they wanted for several drafts. With the exception of McAvoy and Pasta, the few players that they actually hit on (DeBrusk, Carlo) are the ones that are in the rumor mill to be moved or already have been (Lindgren playing his almost first full season with the Rangers last year).
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I am not making a value judgment about the picks themselves, just that idea that "this guy would have been available two rounds later so why not wait." Why would they. If these are the guys, then these are the guys, regardless of round, or what the consensus picks are or general ideas about BPA. The thinking might be off here, time will tell on some of them, but there seems to be little point in crying that they should have waited till X round to grab that guy if there was not a player they wanted more available.
 
WhalerTurnedBruin55 said:
Funny that's being said. The Bruins under Sweeney have been taking the guy they wanted for several drafts. With the exception of McAvoy and Pasta, the few players that they actually hit on (DeBrusk, Carlo) are the ones that are in the rumor mill to be moved or already have been (Lindgren playing his almost first full season with the Rangers last year).

I just hope the scouting team is a lot luckier with this pick than past ones.
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this is off topic but it is a little funny that the only sweeney draft picks that have worked out have been the ones in which there was at least some consensus that the player taken was supposed to go around where thet were taken. Mcavoy, debrusk, carlo, lindgren. None of his “smarter than the room” picks have worked yet. So regardless what happens with lohrei if he doesnt hit he just gets added to a long list of reaches that didnt work out opposite an empty list of reaches that did
 
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BrainOfJ said:
yeah and they f***ing suck at it.
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You know, i've been thinking - there must be a way to see if a scouting staff is preforming above replacement levels.

Take the draft rankings by all publications, make a comprhensive rankings, and compare the team's draft picks VS the ranking to see which scouts are doing better than the publications.

My guess, the draft magazines are probably better in rounds 1/2 and good scouts show their value in the later rounds.
 
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