Prospect Info: Round 2, Pick 48, Carter Hart, G, Everett (WHL)

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deadhead

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Right, because in 18 AHL games he had a .9o2 S%.
Obviously, clearly dominant from the get go.
 

Curufinwe

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Even though this was a lost season, it was worth it to fire Hextall just to get the chance to see 20-year-old Hart play.

He should have started the year in net after being the best goalie in training camp.

That would have been a terrible move. He took a while just to get used to the pace of the AHL, and the Flyers defense was a disaster under Hak to start this season.
 

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That would have been a terrible move. He took a while just to get used to the pace of the AHL, and the Flyers defense was a disaster under Hak to start this season.

Terrible? As in worse than playing Pickard and Neuvirth?

While getting used to the pace of the NHL, Hart would have been better than any other goalie we have. As he was in training camp. This idea that a few games in the AHL makes any difference in development is a myth that's been perpetuated around here since Hextall was hired.
 

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Getting shelled to start your NHL career with an idiot coach dictating your play time would have been terrible for Hart, yes.

No, he would have been fine.He's not a delicate flower. Anyone who observes Hart and thinks he can't handle a little adversity is just making stuff up.

By this logic his slow start in the AHL should have ruined him or at least sidetracked him for months right?

Hextall threw away the entire season and his career because he wouldn't let Hart do the job he earned.
 

deadhead

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Why would you risk the development of a potential franchise goalie to save what was at best a transition season with little chance of getting to, much less past, the second round of the playoffs?
 

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No, he would have been fine.He's not a delicate flower. Anyone who observes Hart and thinks he can't handle a little adversity is just making stuff up.

By this logic his slow start in the AHL should have ruined him or at least sidetracked him for months right?

Hextall threw away the entire season and his career because he wouldn't let Hart do the job he earned.

Hextall threw the season away by not firing the entire coaching staff in the summer and not signing a dependable goalie when he knew Elliott, Neuvirth, and Stolarz all had injury concerns.

Starting Hart with the Phantoms was 100% the right move.
 

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I think he saw Lyon, coming off a great Calder Cup series, as his insurance policy.
Then he went out and got hurt in August, after everyone was off the market, and wasn't 100% until December.
Sometimes you're just snakebite.
 

baudib1

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Hextall threw the season away by not firing the entire coaching staff in the summer and not signing a dependable goalie when he knew Elliott, Neuvirth, and Stolarz all had injury concerns.

Starting Hart with the Phantoms was 100% the right move.

If the goal is ultimately get rid of Hakstol and Hextall, then sure.
 

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I think he saw Lyon, coming off a great Calder Cup series, as his insurance policy.
Then he went out and got hurt in August, after everyone was off the market, and wasn't 100% until December.
Sometimes you're just snakebite.

Extending an oft-injured goalie
Signing an older goalie, who then had a core muscle injury/surgery last season
Relying on a goalie who had two ACL tears

Snakebite? Looks more like negligence.
 

Curufinwe

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No, he would have been fine.He's not a delicate flower. Anyone who observes Hart and thinks he can't handle a little adversity is just making stuff up.

By this logic his slow start in the AHL should have ruined him or at least sidetracked him for months right?

No, because the pressure of the AHL is much lower than the NHL. And the Phantoms were a good enough AHL team to stay well above .500, even with their starter at .900.
 

Mike1167

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I think he saw Lyon, coming off a great Calder Cup series, as his insurance policy.
Then he went out and got hurt in August, after everyone was off the market, and wasn't 100% until December.
Sometimes you're just snakebite.

The thing about Lyon is that not only is he not an "insurance policy", he's not an NHL-caliber goalie...period.
 
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