Draft Round 1 #23: New York Rangers Select RW Gabriel Perreault (Boston College, NCAA)

[SnowblindNYR]

I love the comp but I think he has more raw skill than Fox while being smart but maybe not quite as smart (who is though?).

I feel like people though and still think that Laf can be our Huberdeau but I like that comp for Gabe more.

Huberdeau was a flattering comparison two years ago, not so much now. Haha.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Elite playmaker Gabe, on the same line as sniper Othmann in a few years? Yes please.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I see some Stepan in Gabe.

The base skill set is higher but similar bulids/brain.

 

[UnSandvich]

Can he be Adam Fox as a winger?

Tbh that's how i viewed him pre-draft. The hockey IQ isn't as world-level as Fox's but it's the base of both players games.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

I see some Stepan in Gabe.

The base skill set is higher but similar bulids/brain.

Stepan with more skill and speed would have been an absolute star.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

So at the time of the draft who was the better prospect Perreault or Kravtsov? Kravtsov went higher than expected and Perreault went lower than expected in a loaded draft. Kravtsov was very skilled but I'm just sucker for high IQ players and Perreault is skilled himself.

 

[nyr2k2]

So at the time of the draft who was the better prospect Perreault or Kravtsov? Kravtsov went higher than expected and Perreault went lower than expected in a loaded draft. Kravtsov was very skilled but I'm just sucker for high IQ players and Perreault is skilled himself.

I think their draft ranking were pretty similar on aggregate but I can't say for certain. For me, Kravtsov was an enticing package of tools but had a lot of unknowns and his floor was that of a bust (we found the floor, LOL). Perreault, I have little doubt he'll make it, it's more of a matter of how good he'll be.

 

[rangersfansince08]

I think their draft ranking were pretty similar on aggregate but I can't say for certain. For me, Kravtsov was an enticing package of tools but had a lot of unknowns and his floor was that of a bust (we found the floor, LOL). Perreault, I have little doubt he'll make it, it's more of a matter of how good he'll be.

Perreault ceiling is really high. Could see prime Panarin type seasons at his peak. 30G-70A type seasons. Obviously not great odds he reaches that.

 

[NYR Viper]

I think Perrault is more likely to be. 20-25g and heavy on assists. Think 45-55a. He thinks pass first

 

[eco's bones]

I think their draft ranking were pretty similar on aggregate but I can't say for certain. For me, Kravtsov was an enticing package of tools but had a lot of unknowns and his floor was that of a bust (we found the floor, LOL). Perreault, I have little doubt he'll make it, it's more of a matter of how good he'll be.

I think part of the issue with Kravtsov is he always has had Russia in his head as a fallback.....or at least he started doing that almost from the beginning and then it became a kind of thing in his head in that he was going to set the parameters of his relationship with the Rangers and after that we got this half hearted effort from him......which the Canucks apparently did too.

On the skills/components level Vitali has some obvious advantages. Bigger, larger frame, better skater. As I was saying in the prospects thread Perreault is slicker/smarter moving the puck. Kravtsov has excellent hands but worse timing and vision. Perreault uses teammates a whole lot better. His game is predicated on setting up scoring chances.

 

[rangersfansince08]

I think Perrault is more likely to be. 20-25g and heavy on assists. Think 45-55a. He thinks pass first

Yup hopefully he'll be close to point per game.

 

[Clark Kellogg]

I think part of the issue with Kravtsov is he always has had Russia in his head as a fallback.....or at least he started doing that almost from the beginning and then it became a kind of thing in his head in that he was going to set the parameters of his relationship with the Rangers and after that we got this half hearted effort from him......which the Canucks apparently did too.

On the skills/components level Vitali has some obvious advantages. Bigger, larger frame, better skater. As I was saying in the prospects thread Perreault is slicker/smarter moving the puck. Kravtsov has excellent hands but worse timing and vision. Perreault uses teammates a whole lot better. His game is predicated on setting up scoring chances.

This will not be a popular opinion but I thought Gallant destroyed Kravtsov.
I felt when he returned he was really trying to show he had changed and Gallant had no patience or want. Drury could have been forcing Gallant’s hand and Gallant was just going through the motions.
Then Kravtsov had the three minor injuries to start the season and his fate was sealed.
When he got to Vancouver I agree that he was done, just waiting to get back home.
Felt the same way of Gallant’s handling of Morgan Barron.

 

[nyr2k2]

This will not be a popular opinion but I thought Gallant destroyed Kravtsov.
I felt when he returned he was really trying to show he had changed and Gallant had no patience or want. Drury could have been forcing Gallant’s hand and Gallant was just going through the motions.
Then Kravtsov had the three minor injuries to start the season and his fate was sealed.
When he got to Vancouver I agree that he was done, just waiting to get back home.
Felt the same way of Gallant’s handling of Morgan Barron.

I don't think that Gallant or the organization as a whole did Kravtsov any favors, but at the end of the day that kid was his own worst enemy and I think he was doomed to fail basically no matter what. He couldn't handle adversity, and as a young player in the NHL unless you're a superstar, you're going to face adversity.

I also just think he wasn't that good. Watching him in the KHL I said a couple seasons in a row that I didn't see much offensive development and that he didn't look particularly dynamic to me. That's when I said he had 35-45 points upside and a bunch of people freaked out on me.

Mediocre player with a bad attitude. Not a recipe for NHL success IMO.

 

[GENESISPuck94]

I think Perrault is more likely to be. 20-25g and heavy on assists. Think 45-55a. He thinks pass first

He has such a good release though, if he shoots more he could be a high goal scorer too.

 

[rangersfansince08]

He has such a good release though, if he shoots more he could be a high goal scorer too.

Like 40 goals good?

 

[Alluckks]

Smells like a Panarin comp

 

[GENESISPuck94]

Like 40 goals good?

I don't know. I want to say no, but who thought Kreider would score 50 goals in a season? 30 goals potentially.

Edit to say, there's people here who know way more about this player than me. I'm just guessing in the wind.

 

[mas0764]

This will not be a popular opinion but I thought Gallant destroyed Kravtsov.
I felt when he returned he was really trying to show he had changed and Gallant had no patience or want. Drury could have been forcing Gallant’s hand and Gallant was just going through the motions.
Then Kravtsov had the three minor injuries to start the season and his fate was sealed.
When he got to Vancouver I agree that he was done, just waiting to get back home.
Felt the same way of Gallant’s handling of Morgan Barron.

Agreed and I don’t think that a poor relationship with Drury did him any favors either.

 

[nyr2k2]

Like 40 goals good?

His shot is nice but it's almost impossible to say what he could be in terms of scoring goals if he "just did X more" because you'd basically be asking him to completely change his game, and who knows what overall effect that would have on things. With that said, I personally feel like 40 goals is pretty unrealistic for him even if he took another shot or two per game, but I don't even worry about it because he's just not going to be that guy.

 

[rangersfansince08]

His shot is nice but it's almost impossible to say what he could be in terms of scoring goals if he "just did X more" because you'd basically be asking him to completely change his game, and who knows what overall effect that would have on things. With that said, I personally feel like 40 goals is pretty unrealistic for him even if he took another shot or two per game, but I don't even worry about it because he's just not going to be that guy.

Yea I'm hoping for something like 30-50 guy.

 

[romba]

Developing nicely, so far looks like a great pick for the spot kind of like Chytil (if he can stay healthy) and Kreider were.

Perspective: Kreider is an elite power forward with after burners, has had a 50 goal season, and fans still bust his nuts for perceived lack of effort. Like if he really tried he can become Ovechkin or something. Once the prospect shine wears and you’re a vet, no one’s happy anymore lol

 

[MysticLeviathan]

Developing nicely, so far looks like a great pick for the spot kind of like Chytil (if he can stay healthy) and Kreider were.

Perspective: Kreider is an elite power forward with after burners, has had a 50 goal season, and fans still bust his nuts for perceived lack of effort. Like if he really tried he can become Ovechkin or something. Once the prospect shine wears and you’re a vet, no one’s happy anymore lol

kreider isn’t a traditional goal scorer. his shot is honestly quite mediocre. he’s a master at being a great net front presence, both tipping the puck and cleaning up the trash. he can also score breakaways with his great speed. but rarely does he just shoot it past a goalie. kreider is a bit unusual in this day and age.

 

[GENESISPuck94]

Developing nicely, so far looks like a great pick for the spot kind of like Chytil (if he can stay healthy) and Kreider were.

Perspective: Kreider is an elite power forward with after burners, has had a 50 goal season, and fans still bust his nuts for perceived lack of effort. Like if he really tried he can become Ovechkin or something. Once the prospect shine wears and you’re a vet, no one’s happy anymore lol

Kreider is the best forward the Rangers developed since... when was the last time the Rangers kept a drafted forward this long? I can't even remember and I've been watching this team since like 91 or 92. Typically they would have traded him about 5-6 years ago for some 35 year old with bad knees.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Valley doing a little PR. This is not a good game.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

No iteration of Kravtsov could hold Perreault’s jock.

Outside of skating, Gabe smokes Krav in all tangible skills and an unquantifiable amount in not being an entitled ass.

Bloodlines are pretty overrated when it comes to prospect status but being around NHL players growing up has the perk of knowing what it takes to get to that level. That’s rubbed off on Gabe.

I hope they don’t try to force him to go pro after this year. His game may be NHL ready but his body needs to catch up so that’s another year at minimum.