Draft Round 1 #23: New York Rangers Select RW Gabriel Perreault (Boston College, NCAA)

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Eating crow? I never said this guy won’t make it or be good. I was pointing out the combination of slow and small is not great and someone with questionable skating is not ideal.
You seemed pretty adamant that it wasn't a good pick. You make it seem like he's a midget skating in a swamp. He's not slow and he's not that small. He's 18, 5'11 and will fill out and his skating isn't nearly as bad as you make it seem. Just because skating may need some fine tuning because his other skills are elite does not make him slow. He may not be an olympic speed skater but he can skate and is pretty elusive from what I saw. All reports are that he is a much better skater that even 2 years ago. The kid just broke Matthews single season record for scoring in the league. He was picked to go between 10-15 by most draft guys and we got him at 23. This was an A+ pick. I actually think he may be the best value pick in the draft.
 
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LokiDog

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Thanks..

People mention his brother .. but his dad was Yanic Perreault, He had a great career.. Unreal on face offs.

He moved to Chicago when he was 2 and played his junior hockey in Chicago, where his dad coached prior to going to the national program. Kid seems like a very good pick to me - skating doesn’t seem to be an issue at all - he can move. Scouting reports have to give areas for improvement, so sure, he can improve there but I don’t see skating as a weakness at all, and his creativity and IQ are things that would be welcome here. Skating is definitely one of the king attributes at the NHL level, but it’s not all just top speed… edges and ability to make quick cuts and hang on to the puck matter, and I feel he has that. Additionally, the notion that his linemates helped inflate his totals may or may not prove true, but being able to play with talent isn’t the worst thing. You may not be a line driver but knowing how to create space and opportunities for top talents on your line is a quality as well. Nik Backstrom was never an all world skater but he knew how to setup great players and made a damn good career out of it. This kid has hands, vision, IQ and compete. Comes from good bloodlines, seems to know how to work hard and even if he becomes a complimentary top six player rather than a line driving player, you take that and run at #23.
 

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Listening to some of the analyses of this kid is making me think I am insane. A common theme is that he is an “elite passenger”. I find that analysis to be utterly absurd.

He led that dominant line in scoring. A passenger doesn’t lead the line in scoring. A passenger compiles points off the great play of his linemates.

Think about guys like Rob Brown. Steve Rucchin. Guentzel to a lesser extent as he did lead the Pens in scoring one year (played several more games than Sid though).

I understand the argument about project ability. The kid is a good, not great, skater, and he will only have average size at best. I’m not buying the whole passenger thing though. You don’t lead the team in scoring as a passenger. End of story. It’s a logical inconsistency.

I love this pick. We got lucky as hell.
 

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I would bring Andersson back and send him to Hartford
This would not be the worst move (there are plenty better though) to give the Pack a solid center for the year.
Put up 30g in the AHL last season and was wearing an 'A' as well.
I assume he's looking to head home though as I think his NHL chances would have all dried up
 

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He moved to Chicago when he was 2 and played his junior hockey in Chicago, where his dad coached prior to going to the national program. Kid seems like a very good pick to me - skating doesn’t seem to be an issue at all - he can move. Scouting reports have to give areas for improvement, so sure, he can improve there but I don’t see skating as a weakness at all, and his creativity and IQ are things that would be welcome here. Skating is definitely one of the king attributes at the NHL level, but it’s not all just top speed… edges and ability to make quick cuts and hang on to the puck matter, and I feel he has that. Additionally, the notion that his linemates helped inflate his totals may or may not prove true, but being able to play with talent isn’t the worst thing. You may not be a line driver but knowing how to create space and opportunities for top talents on your line is a quality as well. Nik Backstrom was never an all world skater but he knew how to setup great players and made a damn good career out of it. This kid has hands, vision, IQ and compete. Comes from good bloodlines, seems to know how to work hard and even if he becomes a complimentary top six player rather than a line driving player, you take that and run at #23.

I think also the skating is not an issue. Yanic was not the greatest skater, but played over 800 games
 
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Perreault's going to need more time. He needs to get up to 180/185 lbs. Two years at BC should help him accomplish that. Work on his speed a bit as well. There are players who do very well who are average speed guys but who depend a lot on guile. He also has superior edge work which reminds me a bit of Mikael Nylander. Back when we had him with Jagr---he was like the slowest guy on the team but when he had the puck no one could get it away from him and he was creating lots of offense.
 

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After watching extensive tape of this kid since we drafted him all I'm saying is he has this extra thing that will help him a ton in the NHL. Two actually, first his hockey IQ is insanely high, kind of like Adam Fox in that he sees plays happen before they happen. And on top of that he has some phisicality that a lot of people over look, he is no Artemi Panarin, that's for damn sure. This kid is easily a top 10 pick that fell to us. I don't see the bad skating. Yeah he doesn't blow past people but he as at least as good a skater as Mika. He looks better than Lafreniere skating.
 

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Listening to some of the analyses of this kid is making me think I am insane. A common theme is that he is an “elite passenger”. I find that analysis to be utterly absurd.

He led that dominant line in scoring. A passenger doesn’t lead the line in scoring. A passenger compiles points off the great play of his linemates.

Think about guys like Rob Brown. Steve Rucchin. Guentzel to a lesser extent as he did lead the Pens in scoring one year (played several more games than Sid though).

I understand the argument about project ability. The kid is a good, not great, skater, and he will only have average size at best. I’m not buying the whole passenger thing though. You don’t lead the team in scoring as a passenger. End of story. It’s a logical inconsistency.

I love this pick. We got lucky as hell.
It reminds me of the narratives surrounding Sebastian Aho.

He centered that amazing line for the Finland program. Laine went 2nd and Puljujarvi went 4th. Aho went 35th.

Turns out, Aho was carrying two logs on his back.
 

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You seemed pretty adamant that it wasn't a good pick. You make it seem like he's a midget skating in a swamp. He's not slow and he's not that small. He's 18, 5'11 and will fill out and his skating isn't nearly as bad as you make it seem. Just because skating may need some fine tuning because his other skills are elite does not make him slow. He may not be an olympic speed skater but he can skate and is pretty elusive from what I saw. All reports are that he is a much better skater that even 2 years ago. The kid just broke Matthews single season record for scoring in the league. He was picked to go between 10-15 by most draft guys and we got him at 23. This was an A+ pick. I actually think he may be the best value pick in the draft.
I’m going off of what experts said- not my evaluation of him. They are experts- I’m not. I’m glad you love the guy and are anointing him the next great New York Ranger. I hope you are right but let’s be a bit slower on falling in love with records and little bit more practical about how a guy with questionable skating and is on the smaller side might translate into the NHL. That’s all I’m saying.

I’m even ignoring my strongest point which is this organization just drafted 2 similar forwards( 3 if you include Kravstov) and none have lived up to anywhere near their hype/billing.


I think also the skating is not an issue. Yanic was not the greatest skater, but played over 800 games
A very long time ago in essentially a totally different league in which clutching and grabbing was exactly what everyone did.
 

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