Roster Thread (2023-2024 Season)

[Sabresfansince1980]

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I'm ready to see Krebs get a chance with some more offensive potential, and while I don't think 35 minutes proves a whole lot, I'd rather roll with what's working because it seems your 4th line has done exactly what you're looking for

I'm ready to see Krebs get a chance to watch from the press box for a while.

 

[Sabresfansince1980]

With where they're at right now, I hope to see Savoie get brought up and go with -

Skinner - Thompson - Tuch (they played well recently and maybe they get their @#$% together...together)
Greenway - Mittelstadt - Peterka (solid line with two good defensive players to make up for Peterka's lapses)
Rousek/Biro/Olofsson - Cozens - Savoie (they get the least minutes until Quinn takes LW)
Girgensons - Jost - Okposo (simple and low-event functional without the Krebs chaos)

 

[Djp]

The Eastern Conference is really clumped up right now. View attachment 763474

after 12 games or so the standing are usually close. Check back before Xmas.

I'm ready to see Krebs get a chance to watch from the press box for a while.

Krebs can still go to Rochester but he has a game limit that he loses exemption

With where they're at right now, I hope to see Savoie get brought up and go with -

Skinner - Thompson - Tuch (they played well recently and maybe they get their @#$% together...together)
Greenway - Mittelstadt - Peterka (solid line with two good defensive players to make up for Peterka's lapses)
Rousek/Biro/Olofsson - Cozens - Savoie (they get the least minutes until Quinn takes LW)
Girgensons - Jost - Okposo (simple and low-event functional without the Krebs chaos)

I expect Savoie to play next game. I wonder if they are waiting to not exceed the 30 day/10 game limit between now and when players report for WJC in December.

I would prefer having Tuch with Cozens to get him going when the team needs to put on gas you can move Tuch to one of the top 2 lines.

you can do some alternating shifts when the 4th line goes on the ice if Cozens Lind is 4th line then he gets subbed on The Thompson line with others.

the other option is 7-11 option again where two wingers of Cozens+ other are spare players thst can get pulled in at winger on any line.

 

[Bendium]

With where they're at right now, I hope to see Savoie get brought up and go with -

Skinner - Thompson - Tuch (they played well recently and maybe they get their @#$% together...together)
Greenway - Mittelstadt - Peterka (solid line with two good defensive players to make up for Peterka's lapses)
Rousek/Biro/Olofsson - Cozens - Savoie (they get the least minutes until Quinn takes LW)
Girgensons - Jost - Okposo (simple and low-event functional without the Krebs chaos)

I would like to see Cozens go to the second line wing.

Skinner - Tage - Tuch
Greenway - Mitts - Cozens
Rousek - Krebs - Peterka (Swap in Savoie for any as needed.)
Girgs - Jost - Okposo

 

[Bendium]

Krebs can still go to Rochester but he has a game limit that he loses exemption

He has 147 NHL games under his belt. My understanding is that as soon as he hits 160 he loses his waiver exemption. I would be 100% in favor of sending him to Rochester for awhile to push this time frame out and rotate other prospects in for experience and to see what they have at the NHL level.

The problem IMO really comes back to the offseason where they failed to pick up a legit bottom six center. So with Cozens struggling, you need Krebs up to play center. In Rochester your options to come up at center are what? Biro, Kozak, Kulich?

If you send Krebs down and bring Biro up you could run Rousek - Cozens - Biro. Should at least be able to eat ice time without giving up more than they can get.

 

[Sabresfansince1980]

I expect Savoie to play next game. I wonder if they are waiting to not exceed the 30 day/10 game limit between now and when players report for WJC in December.

I would prefer having Tuch with Cozens to get him going when the team needs to put on gas you can move Tuch to one of the top 2 lines.

you can do some alternating shifts when the 4th line goes on the ice if Cozens Lind is 4th line then he gets subbed on The Thompson line with others.

the other option is 7-11 option again where two wingers of Cozens+ other are spare players thst can get pulled in at winger on any line.

I think the top line/top-six need gas right now, and that top line especially needs to get in gear. It might be time to go back to them and see if they can carry the offense they way they're supposed to. Right now there isn't another winger outside the top-six that should be there...unless Savoie somehow comes along and plays great (doubtful).

I would like to see Cozens go to the second line wing.

Skinner - Tage - Tuch
Greenway - Mitts - Cozens
Rousek - Krebs - Peterka (Swap in Savoie for any as needed.)
Girgs - Jost - Okposo

Cozens to the wing is a fine idea in general, but Peterka has actually been better and I don't want to take away from a legit 2nd scoring line just to get a guy going who just needs to play better regardless of his linemates. On top of that, I like Krebs as a 4C in the near future but right now his head is in the clouds and he's ruining possession time for his line. Pairing him up with Peterka will negate everything JJP is doing right now and be a terrible combo for defensive lapses. I'd rather roll the dice pairing a struggling Cozens with Savoie, and Rousek might be the best option as the other winger that plays a fast and simple game, and might not make that line an even bigger liability. Quinn can lock down that wing eventually but too much is going to happen between now and then to think about it very much.

 

[SnuggaRUDE]

He has 147 NHL games under his belt. My understanding is that as soon as he hits 160 he loses his waiver exemption. I would be 100% in favor of sending him to Rochester for awhile to push this time frame out and rotate other prospects in for experience and to see what they have at the NHL level.

The problem IMO really comes back to the offseason where they failed to pick up a legit bottom six center. So with Cozens struggling, you need Krebs up to play center. In Rochester your options to come up at center are what? Biro, Kozak, Kulich?

If you send Krebs down and bring Biro up you could run Rousek - Cozens - Biro. Should at least be able to eat ice time without giving up more than they can get.

In extremely limited sample size, 6 minutes, that trio had 0% xG. They got caved in against Philly.

The team has like two practice days to figure out how to play against counter attacks. If they don’t Carolina will eat them alive.

 

[Djp]

He has 147 NHL games under his belt. My understanding is that as soon as he hits 160 he loses his waiver exemption. I would be 100% in favor of sending him to Rochester for awhile to push this time frame out and rotate other prospects in for experience and to see what they have at the NHL level.

The problem IMO really comes back to the offseason where they failed to pick up a legit bottom six center. So with Cozens struggling, you need Krebs up to play center. In Rochester your options to come up at center are what? Biro, Kozak, Kulich?

If you send Krebs down and bring Biro up you could run Rousek - Cozens - Biro. Should at least be able to eat ice time without giving up more than they can get.

160 Games loses his waiver exemption.

same with Peterka in terms of paper transactions. He can hit it late in the season. He has 91 games 69 games hits 160. and 70 are left.

Quinn when he comes back can be used as well.

three issue in 4C — they probably offered $2M+ to the UFA 4C who signed with other teams because it was their choice.

Stop thinking KA didn’t do anything. He very likely did but he can’t force them at gun point.

 

[Dingo44]

 

[ValJamesDuex]

 

[HaNotsri]

NTC but maybe Tyler Johnson would like to be relevant again? He could fill in on the third line and earn a new contract. He knows what it takes to perform in the playoffs.

Olofsson++ goes the other way. Bedard gets a PP winger and Chicago some future assets.

Edit: Would allow Krebs to first get AHL time and then a mentor on the team. Johnson could be a great role model for him.

 

[Archie Lee]

When the dust settles in 6-8 weeks and Benson and Savoie are back in the WHL and Quinn is back, I would like to see Krebs get an extended look in the middle six with Cozens and Quinn. I still think he can be a playmaker working with at least one, in this case two finishers.

It’s a cautionary tale though. There are only so many prime positions available. I wonder how many productive NHL forwards thrive, in part, because of the confidence they get from being on PP1 and playing a regular shift with other productive offensive players. Many, I’m sure. This is not a shot against Okposo and Girgs; you need such players in your bottom 6 in my view. But expecting a young offensively gifted player to thrive and be productive without the benefit of playing with skilled players is unrealistic.

 

[Sabresfansince1980]

NTC but maybe Tyler Johnson would like to be relevant again? He could fill in on the third line and earn a new contract. He knows what it takes to perform in the playoffs.

Olofsson++ goes the other way. Bedard gets a PP winger and Chicago some future assets.

Edit: Would allow Krebs to first get AHL time and then a mentor on the team. Johnson could be a great role model for him.

If there is a trade to be made for a bottom-six guy in the very near future, I would look at Nico Sturm in SJ. Two years left at 2 mil per. That type of move won't happen unless Krebs falls flat all the way to the TDL.

 

[Beerz]

When the dust settles in 6-8 weeks and Benson and Savoie are back in the WHL and Quinn is back, I would like to see Krebs get an extended look in the middle six with Cozens and Quinn. I still think he can be a playmaker working with at least one, in this case two finishers.

It’s a cautionary tale though. There are only so many prime positions available. I wonder how many productive NHL forwards thrive, in part, because of the confidence they get from being on PP1 and playing a regular shift with other productive offensive players. Many, I’m sure. This is not a shot against Okposo and Girgs; you need such players in your bottom 6 in my view. But expecting a young offensively gifted player to thrive and be productive without the benefit of playing with skilled players is unrealistic.

Girgs and Okposo aren't making Krebs throw crazy backhand passes to the other team

 

[Sabresfansince1980]

When the dust settles in 6-8 weeks and Benson and Savoie are back in the WHL and Quinn is back, I would like to see Krebs get an extended look in the middle six with Cozens and Quinn. I still think he can be a playmaker working with at least one, in this case two finishers.

It’s a cautionary tale though. There are only so many prime positions available. I wonder how many productive NHL forwards thrive, in part, because of the confidence they get from being on PP1 and playing a regular shift with other productive offensive players. Many, I’m sure. This is not a shot against Okposo and Girgs; you need such players in your bottom 6 in my view. But expecting a young offensively gifted player to thrive and be productive without the benefit of playing with skilled players is unrealistic.

Krebs is not very offensively gifted. He is average or below in about everything except attitude and effort. His vision is not good when he repeatedly attempts low % passes that used to work in juniors. He isn't great at winning board battles, his shot is mediocre. He can be fine (even good) as a 4C if he cuts the dumb out of his game, but there is a myth still persisting that he is offensively gifted with scoring line talent.

 

[Matt Ress]

When the dust settles in 6-8 weeks and Benson and Savoie are back in the WHL and Quinn is back, I would like to see Krebs get an extended look in the middle six with Cozens and Quinn. I still think he can be a playmaker working with at least one, in this case two finishers.

It’s a cautionary tale though. There are only so many prime positions available. I wonder how many productive NHL forwards thrive, in part, because of the confidence they get from being on PP1 and playing a regular shift with other productive offensive players. Many, I’m sure. This is not a shot against Okposo and Girgs; you need such players in your bottom 6 in my view. But expecting a young offensively gifted player to thrive and be productive without the benefit of playing with skilled players is unrealistic.

I understand the notion. There are just so many better options for that spot. We all know that there needs to be guys moved out of the organization throughout the next year. It's less likely that a budding prospect gets moved and most likely a struggling, young, albeit misplaced player goes on the block.

Krebs should still hold a decent amount of value and is probably rightfully seen around the league as being squeezed out from a tidal wave of youngsters. I've never really been a big fan personally and this season looks like he's getting away from the hard nosed game that could make him a successful NHLer and back to a wannabe Tinkerbell on ice. He just hasn't really been impactful in any area of the lineup for a significant stretch and we should be raising expectations. I don't get the attachment by some fans.

 

[MOGlLNY]

Benson is out while Savoie gets his games. Benson probably gets AHL rehab assignment like Savoie had.

they have to watch the 30 day roster day count if thry don’t want to burn their first year contract.

they can do the Levi, Krebs, Peterka paper shuffle in managing a 23 man roster with Benson and Savoie.

I think a trade occurs in early January when Benson and Savoie would return from WJC that opens up roster spots.

I doubt that Benson and Savoie gets sent back to CHL.

why are you still pushing this? Peterka has 8 points in 12 games and has our best underlying numbers as well lol.

 

[Chainshot]

NTC but maybe Tyler Johnson would like to be relevant again? He could fill in on the third line and earn a new contract. He knows what it takes to perform in the playoffs.

Olofsson++ goes the other way. Bedard gets a PP winger and Chicago some future assets.

Edit: Would allow Krebs to first get AHL time and then a mentor on the team. Johnson could be a great role model for him.

Interesting that you mention Johnson - digging around and forcing myself to watch some Hawks games and it looks like he's on the wing with Dickinson handling center and Hall on the other side.

 

[joshjull]

 

[Sabresfansince1980]

It's happening!!!

 

[Bendium]

160 Games loses his waiver exemption.

same with Peterka in terms of paper transactions. He can hit it late in the season. He has 91 games 69 games hits 160. and 70 are left.

Quinn when he comes back can be used as well.

three issue in 4C — they probably offered $2M+ to the UFA 4C who signed with other teams because it was their choice.

Stop thinking KA didn’t do anything. He very likely did but he can’t force them at gun point.

Did something or not, whatever he did, .......... he did NOT get the job done. Its a simple go/nogo test.

Do you have a good bottom six possession center on the team? No! So, the job did not get done.

 

[MOGlLNY]

Interesting that you mention Johnson - digging around and forcing myself to watch some Hawks games and it looks like he's on the wing with Dickinson handling center and Hall on the other side.

After having no Sabres in history with the last name Johnson if i recall correctly (believe duffer mentioned this earlier in the season)

Having T Johnson E Johnson and R Johnson. Would be very funny tbh

 

[Chainshot]

T Johnson E Johnson R Johnson. Would be very funny tbh

Johnsons of all shapes and sizes. Not what I meant when I said I thought they should act more like pricks on the ice but here we are...

 

[joshjull]

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

https://x.com/LLysowski/status/1721565174232953037?s=20

Cozens still out