WC: Roster Talk '12 — Sweden

[Nacho]

Not quite sure what you mean by that. With the NHLers coming in, the players who played on the top lines versus Switzerland will be pushed down to depth roles.

Im saying they are not playing as a team, "nhlers" wont fix that...

 

[Partagas]

4-6 players on that roster will play at the WC.

Only the half of this swiss roster too will play at the WC . Streit,Sbisa and 10 players of the playoffsfinals ZSC LIons and SCBern will join the team.

 

[joe89]

Im saying they are not playing as a team, "nhlers" wont fix that...

Who cares what they looked like? I'm not getting defensive because they were indeed terrible, but so was the roster. It's just a crapola of young players plus a couple of keepers. Before Switzerland they managed to win four straight exhibition games however.

Anyway, It's not the team that will play in the World Champs so it's not worth putting any further thoughts into. I think that's what Systemfel was getting to.

 

[Partagas]

4-6 players on that roster will play at the WC.

Only the half of the swiss roster will play at the WC . Streit,Sbisa and 10 players of the playoffs finals ZSC Lions and SCBern will join the team .

 

[joe89]

Only the half of the swiss roster will play at the WC . Streit,Sbisa and 10 players of the playoffs finals ZSC Lions and SCBern will join the team .

It's obviously not to say Switzerland won't get better too. But this is the Swedish Roster discussion, hence looking at it from a Swedish standpoint.

 

[joe89]

Detroit out. Discuss?

 

[LiveeviL]

Yes, exciting times in this thread. Holmström got a shot at triple gold club if he gets on-board - sure he would value that, doing one last push on the skates (if he retires).

What is the status of the others? If Lidström retires too, then I would go to the tournament if I was in his clothes. I mean it would be the last time his is conditioned for elite hockey. Wouldn't it be natural to play the few couple of games in that shape, he has after all expected a longer play-off than this.

Zetterberg, Kronwall, Franzén would all be most welcome of course. Ericsson would take a spot from any of the current D-men, but we'll see.

 

[Neblod Zin]

Really hoping to see Gustav Nyquist!

 

[fredligh]

Really hoping to see Gustav Nyquist!

Pär Mårts isnt unreasonable, maybe he pick Nyquist for the pre games and give the guy a shot at the roster.

 

[jfc64]

Really hoping to see Gustav Nyquist!

The only "new" swedish player in NHL (beside Landeskog) I believe have a chance at the WC team is Hagelin. Maybe a goalie as well.

Another question is if Mårts is interrested in Samuelsson. National team hockey, as you all know, is a passion for the guy. Injuries might make him unavailable, though. Other 50-50 players might be Stålberg, Ericsson J etc, see below


Schweizerostlags "not even strong taste"-WC guys:
Lundqvist
Pettersson

Kronwall

Enroth
Fasth

BIG question marks:
Danielsson
Persson


The 50-50 bunch:
Strålman
Hagelin
Lehner
Johansson
Markström
Samuelsson
Edler
Steen (because of late injury history)
Oduya
Krüger
Stålberg
Ericsson

 

[Tomas W]

Is it good to lose to the Swiss twice in the same week? No.

Is going to matter when the WC starts? Not for Sweden, maybe for the Swiss.

 

[jfc64]

OPEN LETTER TO THE SWEDES IN DETROIT RED WINGS!:

First, Lidström! Magnificent career! Do as you want with WC. I support you no matter what. You earned it.

Zetterberg, Franzén, Kronwall and maybe Ericsson:
I hope your disappointment will disappear with time. This team will be great and I believe it will be a lot of fun being on it. Our team right now is no indication of what will be. The goaltending is great and imagine if Lundqvist joins later. Our defense might be top notch with Karlsson as offensive motor and Hedmanas a defensive leader. Forwards will work hard for the team. At least one forward line will be the best we can mobilize.

PS. I know Selänne and Koivu has declined and that this fact might be in your mind. Please, don't let this guide you. And skip the rule that WC only is for younger guys as the canadians believe.

DO THIS: (målbilder...)
Tattoo a mad Sundin (Hartwall Arena) on your forehead, imagine the super team we might have that will show the canadians what home ice means and what it will mean for the rest of the SEL guys if you show up! Imagine Globen and being a winner there as you might return there with your NHL team in the future. Join Sedin, Loui, Hedman, Enroth and all the other NHL:ers that will be on the team! We only have home ice a few times in your career. It will be DAMN fun and a real boost for swedish hockey and set the tone for the Boustedt-generation (born 88-93) of swedish top players. You might even plan a trip to the soccer-EM in Poland as part of the whole shabang. Also, imagine Sergels Torg full of fans as you return. OK, the hockey against the finns in the final will be real boring (think 0-0) but the feeling of beating the finns IN Finland will be a fine revenge for the OG-departure.

Finally...please join!.

 

[joe89]

Here's what I'd do:
Invite Lidstrom, Kronwall, Zetterberg and Franzen right away. No-brainers.
Invite Nyquist for a try-out in the Czech Hockey Games.
Wait out the rest of the 1st round before inviting Ericsson. There's other D's like Karlsson, Hjalmarsson, Ekman-Larsson, Edler, Stralman, Oduya to name a couple. Just wait and see what you got first.

 

[jfc64]

This guy me no like:

http://bloggar.expressen.se/nhlpro/

As far as I'm concerned he has stepped out of his role as a journalist into the clothes of a national traitor. Selling newspapers by speculating about who will NOT want to play WC without any facts.


Another thing that makes me NUTS is the SWEHOCKEY homepage: To find national team stats you have to look under "Serier" which is ok and then under "GAMES ONLINE"????

 

[jfc64]

Here's what I'd do:
Invite Lidstrom, Kronwall, Zetterberg and Franzen right away. No-brainers.
Invite Nyquist for a try-out in the Czech Hockey Games.
Wait out the rest of the 1st round before inviting Ericsson. There's other D's like Karlsson, Hjalmarsson, Ekman-Larsson, Edler, Stralman, Oduya to name a couple. Just wait and see what you got first.

That's the plan, I believe. One reason why the current national team sucks is that so many players know they will be replaced.

But let the "no-brainers" join when they feel like

 

[jfc64]

Is it good to lose to the Swiss twice in the same week? No.

Is going to matter when the WC starts? Not for Sweden, maybe for the Swiss.

The best comment I read in a while! Norway will taste the whip as well.

 

[joe89]

Yeah, only five days to next tournament so that won't happen. I guess they will clean out their lockers Monday or Tuesday. But youngster Nyquist could surely make an effort to be there if they want him.

 

[weklof]

Updated summary

Out: Dahlbeck, Viklund, Rosén, Danielsson, Hjalmarsson
In: Hedman, Ekholm, Landeskog, Järnkrok, Larsson

Roster for Kajotbet Hockey Games:
Jhonas Enroth, Buffalo
Viktor Fasth, AIK
Cristopher Nihlstorp, Färjestad

Staffan Kronwall, Tjerepovets
Daniel Fernholm, HIFK
Mattias Ekholm, Brynäs
Jonas Frögren, Färjestad
Mattias Karlsson, HV71
Jonas Brodin, Färjestad
Jonas Ahnelöv, Modo
Victor Hedman, Tampa Bay

Johan Larsson, Brynäs
Fredrik Pettersson, Frölunda
Calle Järnkrok, Brynäs
Jesper Fasth, HV71
Patrik Zackrisson, Atlant
Joel Lundqvist, Frölunda
Daniel BÃ¥ng, AIK
Niklas Persson, CSKA
Niklas Olausson, Luleå
Linus Omark, Edmonton
Jonas Andersson, Atlant
Patrik Lundh, Färjestad
Johan Harju, Luleå
Gabriel Landeskog, Colorado

Confirmed additions:
F Loui Eriksson - Dallas

Declined invitations:
G Johan Gustafsson - Luleå *injury
D Magnus Johansson - Linköping *lack of motivation
D Elias Fälth - Luleå *injury
D Christian Bäckman - Frölunda *injury
D Tobias Enström - Winnipeg *Does not feel 100% healty
D Oscar Klefbom - Färjestad *injury
F Andreas Jämtin - Linköping *lack of motivaiton
F Carl Söderberg - Linköping *injury
F Mattias Ritola - MODO *injury
F Magnus Kahnberg - Frölunda *injury
F Tony MÃ¥rtensson - St. Petersburg *injury
F Mattias Weinhandl - St. Petersburg *injury
F Martin Thörnberg - Torpedo Nizhny Novogorod *injury

Unavailable players:
D Carl Gunnarsson - Toronto *injury
D Mattias Öhlund - Tampa Bay *injury
F Mikael Backlund - Calgary *injury
F Kristian Huselius - Columbus *injury

Not invited:
G Jonas Gustavsson - Toronto
G Henrik Karlsson - Calgary
D Dennis Persson - Buffalo
F Andreas Engqvist - Montreal
F Tom Wandell - Dallas

Possible additions, NHL:
D Jonahtan Ericsson - Detroit
D Niklas Kronwall - Detroit
D Nicklas Lidström - Detroit
F Johan Franzén - Detroit
F Tomas Holmström - Detroit
F Gustav Nyquist - Detroit
F Henrik Zetterberg - Detroit

NHL playoffs

Nashville Predators - Detroit Red Wings 4-1

Vancouver Canucks - Los Angeles Kings 1-3
D Alexander Edler - Vancouver
F Samuel PÃ¥hlsson - Vancouver
F Daniel Sedin - Vancouver *injured, concussion. Returned in game 4
F Henrik Sedin - Vancouver

St. Louis Blues - San Jose Sharks 3-1
D Douglas Murray - San Jose
F Patrik Berglund - St. Louis
F Alexander Steen - St. Louis

Phoenix Coyotes - Chicago Blackhawks 3-1
D Oliver Ekman-Larsson - Phoenix
D Niklas Hjalmarsson - Chicago
D Johnny Oduya - Chicago
F Marcus Krüger - Chicago
F Viktor Stålberg - Chicago

New York Rangers - Ottawa Senators 2-2
G Henrik Lundqvist - NY Rangers
D Anton Strålman - NY Rangers
F Carl Hagelin - NY Rangers
D Erik Karlsson - Ottawa
F Daniel Alfredsson - Ottawa *injured, concussion
F Jacob Silfverberg - Ottawa

Boston Bruins - Washington Capitals 2-2
F Nicklas Bäckström - Washington
F Marcus Johansson - Washington

Florida Panthers - New Jersey Devils 2-2
F Mikael Samuelsson - Florida
G Johan Hedberg - New Jersey
D Adam Larsson - New Jersey
D Henrik Tallinder - New Jersey *injured, blood clot
F Jacob Josefson - New Jersey *injured, broken wrist

Pittsburgh Penguins - Philadelphia Flyers 2-3
D Nicklas Grossmann - Philadelpha *Left game 4 with possible concussion
D Andreas Lilja - Philadelphia
D Erik Gustafsson - Philadelphia

 

[Dosing]

All it takes is 1 or 2 big names coming and the rest will follow. Imo if only lidstrom comes i dont see how ANYONE could say no.

 

[leksig]

The Swedish roster to Katjobet is set!

http://www.hockeysverige.se/article/13088685/tre-kronors-trupp-till-kajotbet-hockey-games

 

[Hockeyfrilla]

Invite: Zäta, Franzen, Ericsson, Kronwall, Nyquist.

 

[thoves]

Why is there no Skellefteå-players?

Möller, Ericsson, Lindström..?

 

[joe89]

Thank heaven for NHL players.. Imagine a WC team with Bang, Lundh and Olausson.. Ericsson has to be injured.

Omark-Jarnkrok-Landeskog
Andersson-Persson-Zackrisson
Harju-Lundqvist-Pettersson
Bang-Larsson-Fasth

Hedman-Brodin
Kronwall-Ekholm
Fernholm-Frogren

Enroth
Fasth

 

[Eye of Ra]

Harju, Olausson, Zackrisson, Lundh, Fernholm, Ahnelov and Karlsson? Strange...



Where is Jimmie Ericsson, Oscar Möller, Joakim Lindström, Robert Nilsson and Simon Bertilsson?

 

[Eye of Ra]

Thank heaven for NHL players.. Imagine a WC team with Bang, Lundh and Olausson.. Ericsson has to be injured.

Omark-Jarnkrok-Landeskog
Andersson-Persson-Zackrisson
Harju-Lundqvist-Pettersson
Bang-Larsson-Fasth

Hedman-Brodin
Kronwall-Ekholm
Fernholm-Frogren

Enroth
Fasth

I rather have Bang than soft useless Harju.