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impaaaaaact said:
In other news, was at the game last night and I have never been to a professional sports arena that empty. Maybe there were times at the barn where there were the same amount of people... but UBS is so much larger. Ownership's gotta be calling for big moves in the near future
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While I think Marner is a pipe dream, the bolded is the reason I hold out a sliver of hope.
 
MJF said:
I understand the Canadiens are interested in Mat Barzal. I would like to know what the Habs have in juniors and in college that make them a potential trade partner.
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Would be very interested in Hughes coming to make a big offer.

Top prospects there include Demidov, Hage, Kapanen, Beck, Reinbacher, Mailloux, and Fowler.

They've got 15 picks over the first 4 rounds the next two summers.

They could certainly offer the farm, so to speak, to pitch for Barzal.
 
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Chapin Landvogt said:
Would be very interested in Hughes coming to make a big offer.

Top prospects there include Demidov, Hage, Kapanen, Beck, Reinbacher, Mailloux, and Fowler.

They've got 15 picks over the first 4 rounds the next two summers.

They could certainly offer the farm, so to speak, to pitch for Barzal.
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I just read Hage is going back to Michigan next season.
 
Chapin Landvogt said:
His agent will be making demands in that ballpark. No doubt.

The Dobson situation is a huge task for management.

They have to get this right. It's turning into the most vital business affair.

And guess what?

All the other RFAs are arbitration eligible as well.

Romanov, Holmstrom, and Tsyplakov are keys among them.
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At least Holmstrom and Romanov are still a couple of years away from UFA, so there's a bit more leverage - although I think it makes sense to lock them both up long term. Tysplakov is tougher, he's one year away from UFA, so in a similar boat as Dobson.
 
MikeyMike01 said:
Chychrun was also a UFA. Dobson being an RFA will lower what he signs for.
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This is Dobson's final year and he has arbitration rights.
Islanders can qualify him and they can go to arbitration and it could be a 1 year contract, which would make him a UFA in the following offseason.

Also, I was responding to a post that said Dobson will get 10+ AAV.
If Chychrun is getting 9 AAV - Dobson is not getting higher than that after this season. If he repeated last season's production maybe.
 
I think they have to learn from the mistakes they made with Pulock and Pelech, signing them to such long term deals, you are stuck with them no matter what. I like Dobson, but has he really progressed so much he is worth being paid as a top defender in the NHL? How good will he be 4-5 years from now, or is there a decent chance he will stagnate and then you're left with a deal looking pretty woeful.

I think they should offer him a middle ground deal, that takes him to UFA again in the future. It might be the most financially lucrative for him if he can keep his game at the highest level. Offer 4-5 years @ 8 million.
 
IslesNorway said:
I think they have to learn from the mistakes they made with Pulock and Pelech, signing them to such long term deals, you are stuck with them no matter what. I like Dobson, but has he really progressed so much he is worth being paid as a top defender in the NHL? How good will he be 4-5 years from now, or is there a decent chance he will stagnate and then you're left with a deal looking pretty woeful.

I think they should offer him a middle ground deal, that takes him to UFA again in the future. It might be the most financially lucrative for him if he can keep his game at the highest level. Offer 4-5 years @ 8 million.
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I agree this would be the ideal play, but it won’t happen because Dobson is basically in the driver’s seat and has no incentive to do this deal. If he doesn’t like the offer he can file for arbitration and take a one year deal and walk the year after. I don’t think there’s any scenario where he signs for 4-5 year as at 8. I think it’s either a one year deal at whatever he gets in arbitration or an 8 year deal, likely close to the 9 million range, if not more.
 
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Chockey22 said:
I agree this would be the ideal play, but it won’t happen because Dobson is basically in the driver’s seat and has no incentive to do this deal. If he doesn’t like the offer he can file for arbitration and take a one year deal and walk the year after. I don’t think there’s any scenario where he signs for 4-5 year as at 8. I think it’s either a one year deal at whatever he gets in arbitration or an 8 year deal, likely close to the 9 million range, if not more.
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I think you're right here in this assessment.

And in light of having enough RHD offense on the blueline by retaining DeAngelo (and Boqvist for that matter), it's basically the number 1 reason why moving Dobson to a team ready to pay him long-term and make him the (or a) cornerstone of their blueline from here on out in return for a significant forward enhancement looks like it'd be the way to go.

What I can't really identify right now is which destination is the most logical from a need/readiness/assets standpoint.

Could it be a team like San Jose or Seattle?
 
SI said:
explain?
Why would WIld do that with Brock Faber as their RH D #1?
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They don’t want a 5’9 center man so he’s available. Spurgeon seems to be always hurt and Jiricek is meh. Put Dobson behind Faber and you’re top three is Faber, Brodin and Dobson.
 
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