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Roster/Rumors/Speculation/Trade Talk - 2024-25: Re-Tool, Re-Group, Re-Mix, Re-Build
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impaaaaaact
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25 minutes for Tony D last night. Say hello to our new #1 defenseman!
Tahoeblue
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My fear is that Pulock has a separated shoulder or something. Hogberg has been a solid find and probably TDA. Not a fan of Lou but there is some value there and they have filled a need. I know Palms hasn't scored recently but he has picked up some important assists this weekend.
Lou still needs to be open for business.
Jets, Stars, Avs, and Wild are all possibly looking for a 2c.
Lou still needs to be open for business.
Jets, Stars, Avs, and Wild are all possibly looking for a 2c.
And a ton of teams would be interested in getting Playoff
for a 3rd line power play roleI never really looked at the USA roster besides just getting the info that Nelson made team. Honestly surprised Robertson didn’t make it. Such a sniper
miscs75
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They needed depth in the form of Vincent Trocheck/Chris Kreider instead of Jason Robertson.
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To be fair, the team was picked while Brock was scoring and Anders wasn't
But Caulfield had more goals than anyone on the team when he was and DeBrincat was high up too if my memory is accurate
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We sell Nelson or don’t trade him but let him walk.
Who is our second line center next year? Not much in free agency.
Who is our second line center next year? Not much in free agency.
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I still think there’s a very good chance Brock would come back.
But if not, I’d say Bo and Barzal then fill in the wingers.
Avs do us a solid today and beat Rags. 15 seconds before an OT point
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It would be much worse for the Islanders if Lou went full panic mode and tried to sell low on somebody like Dobson if he returns by the deadline.
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Wonder if the Isles also took a look at Kuznetsov when they scouted Tony D (same KHL squad). Low risk bottom 6 scoring help, if it’s a fit and Nelson leaves maybe he could even be a low-end stopgap 2C for a retool year next season.
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I don’t think the Isles want to hire an ENT doctor for all the nosebleeds Kuznetsov was having.
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Kuzmenko of CGY is a 28 year old pending UFA (might be a friend of Sorokin?). Having a down year but maybe worth a flyer if they can get him for relatively cheap in a straight deal or combined with futures in a Nelson deal. Trial run for the rest of the season kinda thing. If they were to send Nelson, CGY has 2 1sts in 2025 and 2026, plus 2 2nds this year.
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Mittelstadt and Engvall seem like two peas in a pod. Who will be the 3rd overpaid young player with too much term to finish it off for Colorado?
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The Isles big get in free agency is a guy that played on 9 teams in 11 years, so even if there were options, the better ones are not signing with the Isles.
The isles have to trade and resign, just like Carolina is going to attempt to do for top free agents.
Rantanen wanted to get paid, also seems like he and his agent didn’t see a competitive path forward for that team - too many holes they (McFarland) is going a very poor job a fixing.
Will Rantanen see the same issue with Carolina? Tulsky already made an excuse for missing out on resigning Guentzel - they didn’t have the money for it (hmmm…Vegas seems to do this all the time, get the player they want, move out someone else to make it fit).
My guess is Ratananen doesn’t resign with Carolina, he’s traded before UFA. He ends up in Washington. Their best player needed an offer sheet to get paid, their best on ice performer they just traded because they didn’t want to go long on. Now, the lightbulb went on? Good luck.
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It's not wild - It's what happens when you have a good GM.
And here we are with Lou having spent THREE 1st rounders on Pageau, Pamieri, and Romanov - And all 3 together couldn't come close to getting Rananen or Guentzel.
Honestly - What difference does it make? Even if Nelson came back next season this team isn't getting near a Cup.
Just dump any aging vets, suck for a year or two, get some blue chip talent in, and this team will be in such better shape (and more exciting as well).
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Richie Daggers Crime
Boosted 9 times double masked they/them
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Yeah, 12th overall and putting up over a point a game in the prime of his career. But that nugget didn't make the cool tweet.
SI90
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Necas is worth more than a first but just pointing out that not having a first doesn’t hamstring you in acquiring a player.
Also, draft position of a player is no longer relevant in terms of trade value after they’re drafted.
That’s like saying Chicago should have gotten a kings ransom because Taylor Hall is a former first overall pick.
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Colorado GM gets promoted to GM after the team wins the SC, under his helm Colorado has won a single playoff series since. That’s a ‘good’ GM.
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From Michael Russo's (covers the Wild) Athletic article this week (warning - might make you sick)....
I know you have mentioned the Wild have interest in Brock Nelson. Would there be any chance of a trade sooner rather than later? Or would this likely be a deadline type of deal?
Right now, unless there’s a third-party conduit and/or the Islanders eat a significant portion of his $6 million AAV, we can’t even fathom how a trade gets done. The Wild have no cap space assuming they don’t have a player on season-ending LTIR at some point. There’s also no guarantee the Islanders trade him. Lou Lamoriello has a history of letting guys walk for nothing. (See: Zach Parise.) So, we have to see what the cap space is as we get closer to the deadline. Also, I really think the Wild are signing him this offseason, so how much do you really want to give up for somebody you can get this summer without getting rid of assets? Plus, remember, the Wild traded their 2025 first-round pick already in the Jiricek deal. — Russo
Who are the 3-5 most likely players, current roster players or prospects, that are likely to be moved should Guerin make a trade for Nelson or someone else?
The Wild have so many players with some level of no-trade protection that it’s not like they have a ton of flexibility here. But since they don’t have this year’s first-round pick, they’d have to deal roster players, prospects or a future first-round pick. Any Nelson deadline deal would require some creativity and the Islanders taking on a chunk of his $6 million AAV. We’ve already talked about how Rossi is a trade candidate if he isn’t signed, though that move would likely not happen until the offseason. They could dangle, let’s say, a Riley Heidt in a deal or an Ohgren or Carson Lambos. — Smith.
I know you have mentioned the Wild have interest in Brock Nelson. Would there be any chance of a trade sooner rather than later? Or would this likely be a deadline type of deal?
Right now, unless there’s a third-party conduit and/or the Islanders eat a significant portion of his $6 million AAV, we can’t even fathom how a trade gets done. The Wild have no cap space assuming they don’t have a player on season-ending LTIR at some point. There’s also no guarantee the Islanders trade him. Lou Lamoriello has a history of letting guys walk for nothing. (See: Zach Parise.) So, we have to see what the cap space is as we get closer to the deadline. Also, I really think the Wild are signing him this offseason, so how much do you really want to give up for somebody you can get this summer without getting rid of assets? Plus, remember, the Wild traded their 2025 first-round pick already in the Jiricek deal. — Russo
Who are the 3-5 most likely players, current roster players or prospects, that are likely to be moved should Guerin make a trade for Nelson or someone else?
The Wild have so many players with some level of no-trade protection that it’s not like they have a ton of flexibility here. But since they don’t have this year’s first-round pick, they’d have to deal roster players, prospects or a future first-round pick. Any Nelson deadline deal would require some creativity and the Islanders taking on a chunk of his $6 million AAV. We’ve already talked about how Rossi is a trade candidate if he isn’t signed, though that move would likely not happen until the offseason. They could dangle, let’s say, a Riley Heidt in a deal or an Ohgren or Carson Lambos. — Smith.
LeapOnOver
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Yeah, i don't get it. The actual draft pick mention means nothing. You can make an argument that Carolina has been good at drafting, but it is still a 1st round pick they are trading, just a past, not a future. It's such a strange thing to bring up....
Also there was a conditional first in the Guentzel trade that Carolina played their way out of by failing to advance to the Stanley Cup Finals.
