Roster/Rumors/Speculation/Trade Talk - 2024-25: Re-Tool, Re-Group, Re-Mix, Re-Build

[Chardo]

He's better than Dobson on the PP

Denis Potvin couldn't make this PP good.

 

[Kevin27NYI]

Denis Potvin couldn't make this PP good.

Yes he could. Let’s not get silly.

 

[Chardo]

Yes he could. Let’s not get silly.

The point man is the least of the problems with this PP.

 

[miscs75]

Rumor Mill:
- Colorado isn't done, they aren't thrilled with Mittelstadt
- Nelson has been connected to Colorado

Mittelstadt (26 years old) is a clear downgrade on Nelson, but under contract for two more seasons at 5.75M per, although I am not sure I see him as a center, especially with a 40% faceoff win percentage.

I'm just connecting two dots, but I wouldn't be surprised if this was a swap that could happen.

I believe Lou said it best “too long and it's too much money”.

 

[Throttle]

Well, well, well. Carolina just sent out a signed termed ‘core’ player (probably one they felt were never going to win with) for a top unrestricted free agent (unsigned).

Visionaries… some around here said that could/would never happen…yet, here we are. Brilliant.

 

[Kevin27NYI]

The point man is the least of the problems with this PP.

Well it's one of five and I'd take Horvat and Lee as the least of the problems first. The lack of one timers on the sides are higher but let's be real. Deangelo can walk the line with the puck and no one else has shown that ability.

 

[Glory Days]

He can be mad but he wasn’t budging on his asking price supposedly of $14+mil AAV. Now he might be 100% worth it and I actually believe he is but Colorado has to pay Mackinnon and Makar as well.

Respect to the AVS for making this difficult decision but not losing him for nothing. We know all to well about that. *** Cough*** Tavares

This was not a panic move but rather what a good GM should do. Getting a top 6 forward and bottom 6 forward both in their prime and 2 draft picks is a good return for a pending free agent that is unlikely to return.

 

[seafoam]

Then flip Mittelstadt for Miller - boom

Have to think if that could be accomplished Colorado would just that themselves.

 

[SI90]

This was not a panic move but rather what a good GM should do. Getting a top 6 forward and bottom 6 forward both in their prime and 2 draft picks is a good return for a pending free agent that is unlikely to return.

Agreed. It was great on Avs part

 

[seafoam]

They need to waive someone.



If Dobson does not go on LTIR*

 

[Throttle]

This was not a panic move but rather what a good GM should do. Getting a top 6 forward and bottom 6 forward both in their prime and 2 draft picks is a good return for a pending free agent that is unlikely to return.

And Carolina uses a player that they didn’t feel was core player at his price, traded up for a guy that earns his keep AND plays a very different game.

Something the Isles should have already done.

 

[eoin92]

 

[periferal]

Love when players need to be reassured of an incoming teammate's character.



(And if they also received texts saying what a dirtbag Tony D. is, would they have shared that in the media? No - I think not.)

 

[SI90]

Love when players need to be reassured of an incoming teammate's character.



(And if they also received texts saying what a dirtbag Tony D. is, would they have shared that in the media. No - I think not.)

That’s fair. But it’s better than not receiving positive texts I guess lol

 

[Glory Days]

And Carolina uses a player that they didn’t feel was core player at his price, traded up for a guy that earns his keep AND plays a very different game.

Something the Isles should have already done.

Agreed, we both agree that the Isles have 2 such players - one already signed to a big contract and one who wants one. Both should be moved. Lou please call Vancouver or Ottawa.

 

[miscs75]

They need to waive someone.



If Dobson does not go on LTIR*

Can we waive the fanbase? If not, my guess will be Grant Hutton (again).

 

[Richie Daggers Crime]

Love when players need to be reassured of an incoming teammate's character.

He's gotten dragged by the media. It makes sense.

 

[Chockey22]

Well, well, well. Carolina just sent out a signed termed ‘core’ player (probably one they felt were never going to win with) for a top unrestricted free agent (unsigned).

Visionaries… some around here said that could/would never happen…yet, here we are. Brilliant.

No one has ever said it could or would never happen, just that the isles shouldn’t do this at this point. Carolina is in a very different place than the Isles, they have a deep roster, with a lot of high end pieces and are competing for the Cup. This makes sense for Carolina, but would make no sense for the Isles to ship out younger, controlled players for older UFA’s.

 

[SI90]

 

[impaaaaaact]

Rumor Mill:
- Colorado isn't done, they aren't thrilled with Mittelstadt
- Nelson has been connected to Colorado

Mittelstadt (26 years old) is a clear downgrade on Nelson, but under contract for two more seasons at 5.75M per, although I am not sure I see him as a center, especially with a 40% faceoff win percentage.

I'm just connecting two dots, but I wouldn't be surprised if this was a swap that could happen.

A Nelson for Middlestadt move feels extremely Lou-y. Probably the closest we’ll get to a dump trade. Maybe they add like a 5th

 

[Tahoeblue]

Well it's one of five and I'd take Horvat and Lee as the least of the problems first. The lack of one timers on the sides are higher but let's be real. Deangelo can walk the line with the puck and no one else has shown that ability.

So true!

 

[SI]

Have to think if that could be accomplished Colorado would just that themselves.

If Miller is set on heading back east

 

[beach]

Came to post this but wow. What a trade, Carolina going for it

They still have no goalie....

 

[SI90]

Not crazy about COL system. I like Winnipeg and Minnesota a lot better.




Names I like in addition to a first for Brock would be

Ritchie( maybe their top prospect might not wanna move him for a rental)

Olousson( 22 year old has played in AHL last few years. Slowly developing. similar trajectory as Holmstrom.)


Gulyayev( small Russia defenseman who is a great skater. I’m not crazy about him but I haven’t seen him play aside from shift videos and highlights.)


That’s really it. I like Zellers and Humphreys as well but they’re not guys that headline deals.

 

[seafoam]

If Miller is set on heading back east

He’s probably just set on being back in the US.

Miller doesn’t make much sense for NYI IMO. He needs to be on a contender.