Roster/Rumors/Speculation/Trade Talk - 2024-25: Re-Tool, Re-Group, Re-Mix, Re-Build

[duster19]

Henrique re-signing

Edmonton had a nice day. Nice when players see you as a destination to win. Makes things easier.

 

[IslesNorway]

Is it not so that new no trade lists are submitted on July 1st? JGP, Palmieri and Nelson all have modified NTCs where they submit their lists of undesirable locations. Could be interesting to know if they have made any changes to where they not like to go.

Not that I think Palms og Nelson will be traded, but for JGP he probably knows they'd like to get his cap hit off the books and may take a different approach to his list.

Looking at the Isles contracts, 2025 is actually a huge year in terms of turning the franchise around. Nelson and Palmieri are UFAs and could be traded for a big haul, Pelech and Varlamov are no longer on full NTCs and JGP enters the final year of his deal, making him considerably easier to move. Lee also enters his final year then. If nothing more happens this offseason, one really has to think, next year is crucial.

 

[Chapin Landvogt]

Remaining UFA forwards of possible interest:
- Roslovic
- Sprong
- Kubalik
- Barabranov
- Gurianov
- Labanc

Remaining UFA defensemen of possible depth interest:
- Brannstrom
- Kylington
- PO Joseph
- Boqvist
- Addison
- Norlinder
- Zboril
- S. Johansson

I went to bed last night thinking Skinner and Henrique may still be on the radar.

They were, but it was for another blue-n-orange outfit.

Looks like it's trade route time.

***
Could this all be doable?

- Holmstrom, Bolduc, and 2025 1st (lottery protected) for Pinto
- Wahlstrom, George, and Gauthier to Toronto for Robertson and Niemela
- Pageau to Anaheim for F Pastujov and D Helleson

 

[crashthenet]

Remaining UFA forwards of possible interest:
- Roslovic
- Sprong
- Kubalik
- Barabranov
- Gurianov
- Labanc

Remaining UFA defensemen of possible depth interest:
- Brannstrom
- Kylington
- PO Joseph
- Boqvist
- Addison
- Norlinder
- Zboril
- S. Johansson

I went to bed last night thinking Skinner and Henrique may still be on the radar.

They were, but it was for another blue-n-orange outfit.

Looks like it's trade route time.

***
Could this all be doable?

- Holmstrom, Bolduc, and 2025 1st (lottery protected) for Pinto
- Wahlstrom, George, and Gauthier to Toronto for Robertson and Niemela
- Pageau to Anaheim for F Pastujov and D Helleson

A lot of cap room there. What do you attach?

 

[Bronson]

I'm hoping for us to sign Roslovic and Brännström, both would be great for our depth. Don't ask me how they would fit within our cap lol.

 

[crashthenet]

I'm hoping for us to sign Roslovic and Brännström, both would be great for our depth. Don't ask me how they would fit within our cap lol.

He is not good.

 

[Bronson]

He is not good.

Is he really that bad that he can't play 7th D?

 

[seafoam]

Remaining UFA forwards of possible interest:
- Roslovic
- Sprong
- Kubalik
- Barabranov
- Gurianov
- Labanc

Remaining UFA defensemen of possible depth interest:
- Brannstrom
- Kylington
- PO Joseph
- Boqvist
- Addison
- Norlinder
- Zboril
- S. Johansson

I went to bed last night thinking Skinner and Henrique may still be on the radar.

They were, but it was for another blue-n-orange outfit.

Looks like it's trade route time.

***
Could this all be doable?

- Holmstrom, Bolduc, and 2025 1st (lottery protected) for Pinto
- Wahlstrom, George, and Gauthier to Toronto for Robertson and Niemela
- Pageau to Anaheim for F Pastujov and D Helleson

No interest in Alex Nylander?

 

[seafoam]

Is this stupid

Remaining UFA forwards of possible interest:
- Roslovic
- Sprong
- Kubalik
- Barabranov
- Gurianov
- Labanc

Remaining UFA defensemen of possible depth interest:
- Brannstrom
- Kylington
- PO Joseph
- Boqvist
- Addison
- Norlinder
- Zboril
- S. Johansson

I went to bed last night thinking Skinner and Henrique may still be on the radar.

They were, but it was for another blue-n-orange outfit.

Looks like it's trade route time.

***
Could this all be doable?

- Holmstrom, Bolduc, and 2025 1st (lottery protected) for Pinto
- Wahlstrom, George, and Gauthier to Toronto for Robertson and Niemela
- Pageau to Anaheim for F Pastujov and D Helleson

What do we think about Cizikas + Engvall to Anaheim instead of Pageau?

Surely HC Greg Cronin is familiar with Cizikas and he would be a welcomed addition to that club. With the signing of Duclair, I’m not so sure I see much of a fit for Engvall anymore, plus I’m in the boat that you can trade for a Nick Robertson or sign an Alex Nylander type and get similar production for a fraction of the cost.

Barzal-Horvat-Duclair
Nelson-Pinto-Palmieri
Robertson/Nylander-Pageau-Tysplakov
X-MacLean-Fasching

 

[Chapin Landvogt]

Is this stupid

What do we think about Cizikas + Engvall to Anaheim instead of Pageau?

Surely HC Greg Cronin is familiar with Cizikas and he would be a welcomed addition to that club. With the signing of Duclair, I’m not so sure I see much of a fit for Engvall anymore, plus I’m in the boat that you can trade for a Nick Robertson or sign an Alex Nylander type and get similar production for a fraction of the cost.

Barzal-Horvat-Duclair
Nelson-Pinto-Palmieri
Robertson/Nylander-Pageau-Tysplakov
X-MacLean-Fasching

Sure, I could live with that easily.

 

[crashthenet]

Is he really that bad that he can't play 7th D?

He's awful defensively tbh.

 

[JRD76]

Is this stupid

What do we think about Cizikas + Engvall to Anaheim instead of Pageau?

Surely HC Greg Cronin is familiar with Cizikas and he would be a welcomed addition to that club. With the signing of Duclair, I’m not so sure I see much of a fit for Engvall anymore, plus I’m in the boat that you can trade for a Nick Robertson or sign an Alex Nylander type and get similar production for a fraction of the cost.

Barzal-Horvat-Duclair
Nelson-Pinto-Palmieri
Robertson/Nylander-Pageau-Tysplakov
X-MacLean-Fasching

I guess you traded Lee and Holmstrom to somewhere?

 

[IslesNorway]

Sure, I could live with that easily.

Except no team would want that Engvall contract....

 

[JRD76]

I guess you traded Lee and Holmstrom to somewhere?

Sorry, maybe I missed the deal for pinto

 

[IslesNorway]

I actually thing Lou is done unless something extraordinary happens. There'll be a bunch of AHL signings of course, but as far as the starting roster goes it is done. Maybe some guy falls through the cracks and remains unsigned throughout the summer or a real trade opportunity arises out of nowhere, but with no cap space available there is little to be done.

 

[crashthenet]

I actually thing Lou is done unless something extraordinary happens. There'll be a bunch of AHL signings of course, but as far as the starting roster goes it is done. Maybe some guy falls through the cracks and remains unsigned throughout the summer or a real trade opportunity arises out of nowhere, but with no cap space available there is little to be done.

I agree. I would like a Mcgroarty trade but doubt we see it.

 

[WangMustGo]

At this point I would be fine with just standing pat, maybe sign a couple of younger skilled guys that haven’t broken out. See how the season goes, evaluate around the trade deadline. If we are out of it we can get another 1st+ for Nelson, Palms can be moved and open up a lot of cap space with a couple of extra draft picks to start overhauling the roster. Or if we are right in it you can make a move to upgrade the roster and hopefully some more players are available.

 

[BelovedIsles]

Edmonton had a nice day. Nice when players see you as a destination to win. Makes things easier.

Huh.

The Utah, Kracken, and some of the other rebuilding clubs had a nice day.

 

[MJF]

Remaining UFA forwards of possible interest:
- Roslovic
- Sprong
- Kubalik
- Barabranov
- Gurianov
- Labanc

Remaining UFA defensemen of possible depth interest:
- Brannstrom
- Kylington
- PO Joseph
- Boqvist
- Addison
- Norlinder
- Zboril
- S. Johansson

I went to bed last night thinking Skinner and Henrique may still be on the radar.

They were, but it was for another blue-n-orange outfit.

Looks like it's trade route time.

***
Could this all be doable?

- Holmstrom, Bolduc, and 2025 1st (lottery protected) for Pinto
- Wahlstrom, George, and Gauthier to Toronto for Robertson and Niemela
- Pageau to Anaheim for F Pastujov and D Helleson

At this point I’d rather give wingers from our organization a chance to make the team out kf camp. Its not sexy or impactful but it is low cost, low risk. Other than Sprong and Roslovic, the guys you listed are the type you bring into camp on PTOs. We certainly don’t need to sign them now.

 

[Throttle]

The "dumber things have happened before" rationalization.

Anaheim needs veterans for their kiddie corps. They get flexibility and a two way player. They get a former first rounder they may be able to get some life out of. Then, next season when they are out of it (again), they can flip JGP for another draft assets at the deadline.

 

[Chapin Landvogt]

No interest in Alex Nylander?

Can you promise us that he's the next Verhaeghe?

Except no team would want that Engvall contract....

A part of me feels like CAR would trade Kotkaniemi for Engvall straight up but I don't think we'll ever find out.

 

[Chapin Landvogt]

At this point I’d rather give wingers from our organization a chance to make the team out kf camp. Its not sexy or impactful but it is low cost, low risk. Other than Sprong and Roslovic, the guys you listed are the type you bring into camp on PTOs. We certainly don’t need to sign them now.

Yep, I keep swirling around the names Labanc and Norlinder as camp invitees.

Maybe the fact that Labanc is a Staten Island guy has me thinking he'd just like to try being closer to home at this stage.

But then he could just go to the Rangers' camp...

 

[SI]

Anaheim needs veterans for their kiddie corps. They get flexibility and a two way player. They get a former first rounder they may be able to get some life out of. Then, next season when they are out of it (again), they can flip JGP for another draft assets at the deadline.

Stop you’re embarrassing yourself.

They are NOT trading a 21 year old C still on his ELC with back to back 40 point seasons after selecting him 3rd overall and developing him the last couple of years for Pageau, magic beans, and Wahlstrom who doesn’t have much value.

 

[Throttle]

Stop you’re embarrassing yourself.

They are NOT trading a 21 year old C still on his ELC with back to back 40 point seasons after selecting him 3rd overall and developing him the last couple of years for Pageau, magic beans, and Wahlstrom who doesn’t have much value.

Thanks for letting me know. I appreciate it.

 

[leeroggy]

Stop you’re embarrassing yourself.

They are NOT trading a 21 year old C still on his ELC with back to back 40 point seasons after selecting him 3rd overall and developing him the last couple of years for Pageau, magic beans, and Wahlstrom who doesn’t have much value.

I must have blocked the person you are responding to, so I don't know who you are referring to . . . but what if we include the beanstalk, Jack, 20 Massage Envy coupons and a 2nd?