Roster/Rumors/Speculation/Trade Talk - 2024-25: Re-Tool, Re-Group, Re-Mix, Re-Build

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I almost feel since Lou didn't do anything with Kyle and anyone else he might as well have re-signed Brock, this is such a 1/2 assed measure and now the team sucks, but not enough to get into the bottom 5 lottery and of course no chance of making the playoffs which they might have had a shot if Brock was still here this year and next, any rational GM would have looked at the situation and unloaded at a minimum Kyle, Pageau and Lee but not Lou
 
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Even worse, you have a $9.15M ‘center’ that can’t play his position bc he is atrocious at faceoffs, can’t make anyone better on the team, and ‘runs’ an ongoing league worst power play.

You ain’t winning anything other than lotto balls with Barzal as a core player.
I'm not going to do this whole thing with you again because you're clearly not interested in reality, but if you're open to the possibility of being incorrect you should look up Horvat's numbers when he's not playing with Barzal because they are (to put it lightly) absolute dogshit lmao
 
Even worse, you have a $9.15M ‘center’ that can’t play his position bc he is atrocious at faceoffs, can’t make anyone better on the team, and ‘runs’ an ongoing league worst power play.

You ain’t winning anything other than lotto balls with Barzal as a core player.

Every cup winning team had a superstar forward. You can add Barzal to every team that won the cup and they would still win the cup, the problem is Lou has failed to get a superstar to adequately slot Barzal down the lineup.

Barzal and Horvat are both good players, but not players you build your offense around. They are ideally leading a good 2nd line.
 
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at this point, I'd be fine with this. I'd rather make the playoffs and end up with the 17th pick than miss the playoffs and get the 16th pick.


Except if you've been following the 2025 draft prospects and how trades have been going (lots of top 10-13 1st round protection)...You can see there's about a dozen coveted prospects before it drops off. So picking around 10 would be a much bigger deal than picking 17th.

We were going to get sloshed by any team in the playoffs with Brock. Without him I don't need to need to see another bloodbath.
 
Every cup winning team had a superstar forward. You can add Barzal to every team that won the cup and they would still win the cup, the problem is Lou has failed to get a superstar to adequately slot Barzal down the lineup.

Barzal and Horvat are both good players, but not players you build your offense around. They are ideally leading a good 2nd line.
Trading for superstar forwards ain’t easy for 90% of the teams in the league.

Agree that those two could work deeper in a lineup. As primary, absolutely not.
 
Are they trying to win? Or just remake their roster because Necas, Ratanen, and Guentzel didn’t want Dundon’s money?

They look like they are playing asset protection and scrambling to come out of the position they put themselves in.

If you are Carolina, might want to trade for signed players. It’s clear evidence that people give Lou crap, but he resigns UfAshe trades for otherwise he ain’t making the deal. Carolina gets burned on it.
Carolina has an owner who sabotages his GM. People don’t want to deal with Dundon. He’s as bad as Eugene Melnyk.
 
I know it's become popular to ignore these things but Mayfield has a full NTC. Shouldn't have to remind you of Pulock's. Don't get your hopes up.
 
I know keeping Palmeri is an unpopular decision, but if you do trade him, who replaces his goals next year. Is there a free agent Isles could bring in that would do what he does?

Honest question I’m still torn on him being resigned. It does feel like a half measure following the Nelson deal.
 
I know keeping Palmeri is an unpopular decision, but if you do trade him, who replaces his goals next year. Is there a free agent Isles could bring in that would do what he does?

Honest question I’m still torn on him being resigned. It does feel like a half measure following the Nelson deal.
I think the idea is just to tank next season and get a top pick, so you wouldn't be looking to replace his goals.
 
I know keeping Palmeri is an unpopular decision, but if you do trade him, who replaces his goals next year. Is there a free agent Isles could bring in that would do what he does?

Honest question I’m still torn on him being resigned. It does feel like a half measure following the Nelson deal.
You trade him now, get the assets, then focus on trading for those 20 goals on draft day.
 
With Barzal, Horvat, Sorokin, and Dobson I can’t see a tank in the works.
All those players have been here for the past three years and the team's barely been mediocre.

Now no #2 center and the team is just getting older, slower and more injury prone.

This season alone they had probably the worst combined special teams unit in NHL history and are already a bottom-10 team.

Tanking is absolutely in the cards next season, especially had they decided to trade Palmieri.
 
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