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Roster/Rumors/Speculation/Trade Talk - 2024-25: Re-Tool, Re-Group, Re-Mix, Re-Build
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Throttle
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Nope, he is not. A good player sure. Gonna lead you to a cup? Absolutely not.
doublechili
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Surprised they're not looking to compile draft picks as a means to confound the opposition.
I don't expect this to happen, but if Lou wanted to still go for the playoffs this year he could trade Dobson for a forward. Just saying.
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This would be amazing. The Avs no doubt made it a priority to trade Rantanen to the Eastern Conference so they wouldn't have to face him in the playoffs. Now they will...And just after they gave up a bunch to get Nelson. The Stars might beat them in the playoffs...
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SI
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Carolina really overplayed their hand - they traded Necas +
Interested on the return
periferal
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Assuming Ritchie plays at Bridgeport, and hopefully that means new coach and more support for these young players.
Ritchie scouting -
Calum Ritchie
January 2025 - The WJC is huge opportunity for a prospect's stock to rise... or fall. Ritchie and Team Canada were eliminated in the quarter finals, and while it was encouraging to see Ritchie trusted with some big minutes throughout the tournament on a scoring line right down to the finish, he...dobberprospects.com
Anytime I hear a Isles prospect going to play at Bridgeport I get depressed. Feels like no young player reaches their potential playing there.
IslesNorway
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Pretty good return for the Isles. Now fingers crossed they trade Palms too and maybe even swing another deal or two to revamp the roster somewhat.
Throttle
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LMAO - way to go Carolina Spreadsheets…
Gotta love that people wanted Dubas 2.0 as a GM, let alone Barry ‘let me sign old guys’ due to his tax advantage, yet is playing lotto.
Gotta love that people wanted Dubas 2.0 as a GM, let alone Barry ‘let me sign old guys’ due to his tax advantage, yet is playing lotto.
LeapOnOver
Mackenzie is a hack!
Man, so Colorado moves their best prospect for Nelson and Dallas comes and pulls a Crocodile Dundee, "That's not a stud, this is a stud!"
Shut down Sorokin and get us a lottery pick LOU!
Shut down Sorokin and get us a lottery pick LOU!
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Yes. Hope we aren't done. Surely we don't keep 9 D around.
Gonna be weird not seeing Brock wear #29. Some guy named Nate already has that one spoken for....
Back together with Toews too.
SI90
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Trading Brock is pretty much waving the white flag unless Lou does something stupid like buy tomorrow. Lol
So we pretty much might as well trade Palmieri DeAngelo and anyone else we could. Pageau and mayfield.
So we pretty much might as well trade Palmieri DeAngelo and anyone else we could. Pageau and mayfield.
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Asset Management 101
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I just hope that Calum stays healthy. Good trade for the isles.
Yes this is good.
Tahoeblue
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I would imagine the end for Lou as GM is coming. They did the hard part with Brock. Now open the flood gates. Palms, Pageau, mayfield, czikas, Pulock. Try and get rid of what you can.
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Is there a scenario where he would get traded for an early first? Maybe Anaheim is interested.
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I really hope Lou goes hard tommorow and by 3PM we have about 5 1st/2nd round picks and 4 something to look forward to prospects, couple that with the inevitable free fall in the standings it will probably be the most optimistic I feel about this franchise since they brought in Leddy/Boychuck
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They're in the same boat the Isles are. They're not a desirable destination. They have to try and be creative and take risks. I have a hard time slagging them for this, even if it did blow up.
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Yes, he needs move Palms too today. I realize it is going to be shit for forwards the rest of the way, but Barzal likely being out for the season and now Nelson gone means raising the white flag and teams will DEFINITELY be calling the Islanders in the next 12 hours.
Ritchie and a #1 pick is an excellent haul and Lou needs to entertain offers on just about everyone else on the roster not named Sorokin.
Palms for sure and it would be nice if he cut bait on at least one more (although I probably wouldn't trade Pageau now unless the return was meaningful)
Ritchie and a #1 pick is an excellent haul and Lou needs to entertain offers on just about everyone else on the roster not named Sorokin.
Palms for sure and it would be nice if he cut bait on at least one more (although I probably wouldn't trade Pageau now unless the return was meaningful)
Breakdown:
- Ritchie and a 26/27 1st rounder are the certainties.
- Lou retains 50% of Brock's cap hit for the rest of this season.
- Kylington (and his cap hit) were immediately jettisoned to Anaheim.
- 3rd rounder in 3026 only comes over if Avs win the Cup with Nelson playing 50% of the PO games.
Initial thoughts:
- This deal technically isn't even what we paid for Horvat. I was certain that deal would serve as the BARE minimum for what we could get for Nelson in this market.
- 16-team NTC or not, I cannot believe this was the best bid Lou got. There were surely better pitches. This tells me that Lou likely let Nelson's party know which 3 or 4 destinations ultimately come into question and then Nelson got to pick.
- Both picks, even if one is very unlikely, lie in the future. Does this mean Lou is doing his future replacement a goodin'?
- Gotta assume that the NYI scouting staff is very high on Ritchie. In essence, getting a young center prospect like this says you're looking to get a prospect who has the potential to replace the guy you're sending out. Looks like that could be the case.
- I will not miss Dufour at this juncture. He clearly doesn't look like a player who'd ever make it here. But in addition to Nelson, a very bare Avalance program is getting a guy who isn't too far from being an NHL consideration and one who may very well have needed a true change of scenary. Good luck to Dufour who most certainly has an NHL-caliber shot. There are coaching groups out there who can give him what he needs to round out the edges. COL's staff could be one of them.
Ultimately, if Ritchie turns out to be what's expected and this team makes a decent pick whenever it gets to make use of that 1st, the deal will have been a good one - heck, a necessary one. We may even see Ritchie some point this season.
But I can't look at what Tampa did with Gourde and Bjorkstrand and think this was simply "the best" Lou could have done.
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Will be interesting to see what the other teams do now.
Moving Nelson was the right thing to do for this franchise moving forward. However, symbolic of this realization, now moving Palmieri and hopefully no less than Pageau, would be a necessary continuance of that realization. We have others who don't need to be part of this team's future either.
I'd also say that in light of what DeAngelo and Boqvist have shown us with their puck-moving games, it has become extremely evident that Mayfield absolutely does not fit with any progression this team is going to make moving forward. There are teams out there who could really, really use a Mayfield type for their upcoming playoff run. The contract is the problem, but there would surely be ways to do some retention and/or perhaps take on a contract that's heavier, but shorter in a hockey trade.
This market looks it would be a good opportunity to go that route.
It certainly is NOT the time to pay someone to take him. That would be for a future GM in an offseason. The Mayfield deal is looking more and more like a real mistake, but it should not be one Lou gets to admit and then toss away futures for, to get it off the books.
- Ritchie and a 26/27 1st rounder are the certainties.
- Lou retains 50% of Brock's cap hit for the rest of this season.
- Kylington (and his cap hit) were immediately jettisoned to Anaheim.
- 3rd rounder in 3026 only comes over if Avs win the Cup with Nelson playing 50% of the PO games.
Initial thoughts:
- This deal technically isn't even what we paid for Horvat. I was certain that deal would serve as the BARE minimum for what we could get for Nelson in this market.
- 16-team NTC or not, I cannot believe this was the best bid Lou got. There were surely better pitches. This tells me that Lou likely let Nelson's party know which 3 or 4 destinations ultimately come into question and then Nelson got to pick.
- Both picks, even if one is very unlikely, lie in the future. Does this mean Lou is doing his future replacement a goodin'?
- Gotta assume that the NYI scouting staff is very high on Ritchie. In essence, getting a young center prospect like this says you're looking to get a prospect who has the potential to replace the guy you're sending out. Looks like that could be the case.
- I will not miss Dufour at this juncture. He clearly doesn't look like a player who'd ever make it here. But in addition to Nelson, a very bare Avalance program is getting a guy who isn't too far from being an NHL consideration and one who may very well have needed a true change of scenary. Good luck to Dufour who most certainly has an NHL-caliber shot. There are coaching groups out there who can give him what he needs to round out the edges. COL's staff could be one of them.
Ultimately, if Ritchie turns out to be what's expected and this team makes a decent pick whenever it gets to make use of that 1st, the deal will have been a good one - heck, a necessary one. We may even see Ritchie some point this season.
But I can't look at what Tampa did with Gourde and Bjorkstrand and think this was simply "the best" Lou could have done.
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Will be interesting to see what the other teams do now.
Moving Nelson was the right thing to do for this franchise moving forward. However, symbolic of this realization, now moving Palmieri and hopefully no less than Pageau, would be a necessary continuance of that realization. We have others who don't need to be part of this team's future either.
I'd also say that in light of what DeAngelo and Boqvist have shown us with their puck-moving games, it has become extremely evident that Mayfield absolutely does not fit with any progression this team is going to make moving forward. There are teams out there who could really, really use a Mayfield type for their upcoming playoff run. The contract is the problem, but there would surely be ways to do some retention and/or perhaps take on a contract that's heavier, but shorter in a hockey trade.
This market looks it would be a good opportunity to go that route.
It certainly is NOT the time to pay someone to take him. That would be for a future GM in an offseason. The Mayfield deal is looking more and more like a real mistake, but it should not be one Lou gets to admit and then toss away futures for, to get it off the books.
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