Roster/Rumors/Speculation/Trade Talk - 2024-25: Re-Tool, Re-Group, Re-Mix, Re-Build

[SI]

A Pinto trade would make this offseason a very successful one!

2025 1st, 2026 2nd, Holmstrom, Pageau for Pinto?


Also, Skinner and Henrique best of the rest still out there.

 

[JJ18Sniper]

Any considered movement of that 2025 1st rounder needs some level of lottery protection.

 

[The Wahligator]

Holmstrom at QO - 1/.875K

That’s the obvious answer but it’s unlike Lou to run a 22 man roster, has never done that in his Isles tenure

 

[Taswell]

A Pinto trade would make this offseason a very successful one!

2025 1st, 2026 2nd, Holmstrom, Pageau for Pinto?


Also, Skinner and Henrique best of the rest still out there.

That seems like a bit much, I'd probably still do it, but...that's like one piece too many.

 

[SI]

The one year can make a lot of difference value wise. Didn't Smith always use to score against the Isles?


The one year can make a lot of difference value wise. Didn't Smith always use to score against the Isles?

Also Pens retaining 25% of his contract - JGP not going anywhere unless in a larger deal for Pinto

They did for stretches mid year.

That’s the obvious answer but it’s unlike Lou to run a 22 man roster, has never done that in his Isles tenure.

They did for stretches mid year.

That’s the obvious answer but it’s unlike Lou to run a 22 man roster, has never done that in his Isles tenure.

 

[JTToilinginToronto]

A Pinto trade would make this offseason a very successful one!

2025 1st, 2026 2nd, Holmstrom, Pageau for Pinto?


Also, Skinner and Henrique best of the rest still out there.

Way, way too much for Pinto. Effectively two first round picks and a second round pick.

Pinto isn't that good.

 

[LAIslanderFan]

Here are things I'd like to see rest -

1. A top 6 F signed via free agency - i.e., Skinner, Arvidsson Signed Duclair 4/3.5
2. Wahlstrom traded for a 2025 pick or comparable prospect - i.e., Berggren, Kaliyev, Heinola
3. A top 9 F signed via free agency on a bargain deal, like < 1m - i.e., Atkinson, Beauvillier
4. Sign a young PMD on a 1-year deal - i.e., Brannstrom, Bean - Signed REILLY 1/1.25
5. TWO solid AHL C to help in Bridgeport - Gawdin and Blandisi

2023 - 2024 lineups vs. 2024 - 2025 projected lineups

• Lee - Horvat - Barzal vs. Barzal - Horvat - Duclair
• Engvall - Nelson - Palmieri vs. Engvall - Nelson - Palmieri
• Holmstrom - Pageau - Wahlstrom/Gauthier/Fasching vs. Lee - Pageau - Holmstrom
• Martin - Cizikas - Clutterbuck vs. Maclean - Cizikas - Tsyplakov/Fasching
• Romanov - Dobson vs. Romanov - Dobson
• Pelech - Pulock vs. Pelech - Pulock
• Aho/Bolduc - Mayfield vs. Reilly/Bolduc - Mayfield
• Sorokin and Varlamov vs. Sorokin and Varlamov

I don't see Tsyplakov listed on the CapFriendly site. According to CapFriendly the Isles have $1.062,500 in cap space and they still have to sign Holmstrom, Iskhakov and Wahlstrom.

 

[Glorydays22]

He wants out...

Would you give up next year's first plus?

No

Who thinks a 2025 first is too much for Pinto? I'm leaning that way.

Not giving a 1st next year if he is demanding trade. Give them Pageau, Holmstrom and a 2nd

Chychurn to Washington for Jensen and 2026 3rd, and they are favorites for Matt Roy.

LOL, and all the Ottawa fans wanted a 1st +++

 

[JTToilinginToronto]

I don't see Tsyplakov listed on the CapFriendly site. According to CapFriendly the Isles have $1.062,500 in cap space and they still have to sign Holmstrom, Iskhakov and Wahlstrom.

Writing is on the wall that JGP is probably on his way out. Just wondering what the deal will be.

Do they bring in an external center like Pinto, or do they run Cizikas/McClean as the bottom-6 centers?

 

[BrockLobster]

A Pinto trade would make this offseason a very successful one!

2025 1st, 2026 2nd, Holmstrom, Pageau for Pinto?


Also, Skinner and Henrique best of the rest still out there.

Take out that 1st rounder.

 

[Glorydays22]

Way, way too much for Pinto. Effectively two first round picks and a second round pick.

Pinto isn't that good.

I agree

 

[impaaaaaact]

This year opening night vs. Last year so far:

Duclair > Fasching
Reilly > Aho
McLean > Martin
Tysplakov ??? Clutterbuck

Roy > Lambert
Anyone > Houda

and hopefully...
2025 Sorokin > 2024 Sorokin

If we end up with Pinto instead of Pageau it should be a healthy upgrade over last season

I don't see Tsyplakov listed on the CapFriendly site. According to CapFriendly the Isles have $1.062,500 in cap space and they still have to sign Holmstrom, Iskhakov and Wahlstrom.

I think Holmstrom will sign his QO, Iskhakov either in Bridgeport or KHL, and Wahlstrom will get a change of scenery or get buried in Bridgeport at this point.

 

[JJ18Sniper]

Also Pens retaining 25% of his contract - JGP not going anywhere unless in a larger deal for Pinto

They did for stretches mid year.


They did for stretches mid year.

They did receive a future 2nd rounder + a 5th rounder. Maybe the retention was the 5th?

 

[Glorydays22]

Trying to make sense of everything that's happened but Florida and Carolina are definitely both worse off today than they were yesterday, right? Would say Boston got better, Washington got better but I'm not convinced they've gotten much more competitive. NJ looks better too.

I think the Devils definitely are better. They will make the playoffs this year for sure. Especially if Hamilton is back healthy

 

[SI]

Do the Math - Gauthier and his .787k is listed - take that out and add .Tsyplakov’s 950 k.

Ish is not making the team and Wahlstrom will be traded for a 2025 pick 4th possibly a 3rd

I don't see Tsyplakov listed on the CapFriendly site. According to CapFriendly the Isles have $1.062,500 in cap space and they still have to sign Holmstrom, Iskhakov and Wahlstrom.

Take out that 1st rounder.

2025 1st will be mandatory in any deal for Pinto - they maybe able to make it top 3 protected

 

[crashthenet]

This year opening night vs. Last year so far:

Duclair > Fasching
Reilly > Aho
McLean > Martin
Tysplakov ??? Clutterbuck

Roy > Lambert
Anyone > Houda

and hopefully...
2025 Sorokin > 2024 Sorokin

If we end up with Pinto instead of Pageau it should be a healthy upgrade over last season

This seems like it. They are all upgrades and unless JGP goes no more room at the Inn. Healthy JGP and healthy Mayfield.

Wonder if Lou is still talking to Winnipeg?

 

[seafoam]

I don't see Tsyplakov listed on the CapFriendly site. According to CapFriendly the Isles have $1.062,500 in cap space and they still have to sign Holmstrom, Iskhakov and Wahlstrom.

he’s on the AHL roster below, just drag him up to the main roster and drag Gauthier down off the roster

 

[SI]

Way, way too much for Pinto. Effectively two first round picks and a second round pick.

Pinto isn't that good.

The deal also has JGP and his 2y 5 aav going the other way - it will cost them to move that contract - I didn’t believe they needed to but as we can see that is the trend

 

[SayItAintSoJohnny]

It is literally 25K of cap space for a roster of 22 (Gauthier out- Tsyplakov in, Bolduc as your 7th and Fasching as your 13th) with Wahlstrom/Iskhakov not included....

 

[Throttle]

I think the Devils definitely are better. They will make the playoffs this year for sure. Especially if Hamilton is back healthy

Markstrom is meh. The last time the Devils
made the playoffs they gained a ton of points in OT and SHO bc they were just faster than others. That’s changed a bunch since that time.

 

[Glorydays22]

A Pinto trade would make this offseason a very successful one!

2025 1st, 2026 2nd, Holmstrom, Pageau for Pinto?


Also, Skinner and Henrique best of the rest still out there.

Concerning what Ottawa got for Chychrun. Thats way too much.....

 

[Throttle]

Yzerman collecting the worst goaltending for a team looking to make the playoffs.

 

[Glorydays22]

Markstrom is meh. The last time the Devils
made the playoffs they gained a ton of points in OT and SHO bc they were just faster than others. That’s changed a bunch since that time.

I think their defense is so much better than the past few years...add Markstrom, I have not doubt they will be in the playoffs. Especially when I consider teams like Florida and Carolina getting worse this offseason.

 

[seabass45]

If you think Pinto is a 2C for the next decade you give up a first for him. Centers are still heavily in demand, I can see several teams being interested. Chicago should be WAY in on him and has extra trade chips.

 

[SI]

Concerning what Ottawa got for Chychrun. Thats way too much.....

Chychrun is a UFA - Pinto is an RFA with 3 more controlled years after this one. A first is mandatory for any deal.