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BMOK33 said:
Most players don’t really care about the politics of the city they live in since often they can just live in a suburb or their wealth is big enough bad policies won’t impact their pockets. Also I think NHLers as a whole are more liberal than MLBers. No doubt in MLB it’s become apparent in the last couple years many guys are strongly conservative which in some cases has impacted where they sign. Brandon Nimmo for example despite strong interest from the Giants evidently wouldn’t even talk to them and some say deGrom left NY because his wife wasn’t loving the schools or politics here
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It's very complicated, and I don't know that it makes all that much sense to compare the decisions these people make about schools with the decisions that ordinary folks make. And so little has to do with actual governmental politics. Here's what I mean:

My kids have gone to school in one of the two most liberal districts in NYC schools (Brooklyn District 15), but the involvement of politics in actual education is very light. (Although we get put under a media microscope because my kids go to school with the kids of super prominent journalists. We attract media coverage because if you throw a rock, you hit a journalist.) In contrast, elite private schools like Poly Prep, and St. Anne's (and I've heard similar things about the Daltons of the world) are MUCH more openly political in a leftish way. Considering the ridiculous tuition for those schools, it's pretty friggin' ironic. As a public school kid through and through the only reason I understand it at all is that my wife went K-12 to a simlar elite private school in Chicago. The term 'virtue signaling' gets thrown around falsely all the time, but it actually applies to a lot of the rich parents who send their kids to these private schools. I do not doubt that this kind of crap is out of control in San Francisco.

It might be a bit different with hockey players. It certainly was when I was growing up. I've mentioned before, I grew up with the Gillies kids, they all went to public schools, and had no snobbery at all. I kinda doubt it's still that way, but who knows.
 
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If the NYR trade for Kane, hopefully they have to give up a 1st and a prospect. And then they get knocked out in the 1st round. And during contract negotiations following the season they're 20 cents apart and Kane hauls off and punches Dolan and then signs back with CHI.

Is that too much to ask?
 
doublechili said:
If the NYR trade for Kane, hopefully they have to give up a 1st and a prospect. And then they get knocked out in the 1st round. And during contract negotiations following the season they're 20 cents apart and Kane hauls off and punches Dolan and then signs back with CHI.

Is that too much to ask?
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Or signs with us for the league minimum.
 
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MJF said:
Tell me when Rangers fans become so well-heeled. I may be older than you and I remember vividly sitting in the blue seats at the Garden watching Rags games starting around 1979. Those nasty bastards, your "greaseballs" made today's Islanders fan seem like choirboys.
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I went to a great many games at the garden when the Blue seats were in all there glory, being an Islander fan I sat quietly . My buddy had seasons and often had extra tickets I'd go, as I would go watch pee-wees if I had nothing to do. We recently saw something reminiscent of the old blue seats when the guy from SI knock out a fan after the game in the promenade cant recall what team he was a fan of but that's what The Garden and the Spectrum were like back then . And IMO Islander fans have always been choir boys its been family friendly for ages.
 
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I saw several new pages in this thread since yesterday and thought maybe there was a dippin' dots sighting.

I'm old enough to remember when most of the NYRs lived in Long Beach.
 
doublechili said:
I saw several new pages in this thread since yesterday and thought maybe there was a dippin' dots sighting.

I'm old enough to remember when most of the NYRs lived in Long Beach.
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And practiced at Long Beach Arena on Magnolia. I would take the LIRR there and watch them during training camp, I also think they used Skateland as a practice rink as well . Owned by Bill Chadwick at the time.
 
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I expect that Kane will be traded today. While it’s annoying that he will pick the Rangers, it’s logically not surprising. While I think he would’ve been a great fit on the Isles, I’ve been expecting him to want to go to the Rangers since this summer.

What makes it especially annoying is how it’s all playing out AFTER the Tarasenko trade. I could be ok with one or the other on the Rangers. But getting both… especially in a way that will make it a cheap cost for Kane. That’s extra lame.

Hopefully the Rangers go full Bobby Holik era Rangers and ruin their own chemistry.

doublechili said:
I saw several new pages in this thread since yesterday and thought maybe there was a dippin' dots sighting.

I'm old enough to remember when most of the NYRs lived in Long Beach.
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Who are you kidding! You’re old enough to remember the Glacier that dumped Long Island where it is! :sarcasm:
 
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NC 1972 said:
I went to a great many games at the garden when the Blue seats were in all there glory, being an Islander fan I sat quietly . My buddy had seasons and often had extra tickets I'd go, as I would go watch pee-wees if I had nothing to do. We recently saw something reminiscent of the old blue seats when the guy from SI knock out a fan after the game in the promenade cant recall what team he was a fan of but that's what The Garden and the Spectrum were like back then . And IMO Islander fans have always been choir boys its been family friendly for ages.
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Absolutely. Me and my friends also never got a warm reception from the Bruins fans in the early 80s. Used to look over my shoulder at Boston Garden to make sure we didn’t get beer thrown at us. Same thing in Hartford.
 
BMOK33 said:
Most players don’t really care about the politics of the city they live in since often they can just live in a suburb or their wealth is big enough bad policies won’t impact their pockets. Also I think NHLers as a whole are more liberal than MLBers. No doubt in MLB it’s become apparent in the last couple years many guys are strongly conservative which in some cases has impacted where they sign. Brandon Nimmo for example despite strong interest from the Giants evidently wouldn’t even talk to them and some say deGrom left NY because his wife wasn’t loving the schools or politics here
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Professional athletes can afford to live here comfortably although they will be taxed a lot more. As far as the working class well there is a reason why many are leaving. Politics is corrupt on all sides so i don’t really pay attention to it.
 
BrockLobster said:
Funny. Winnipeg is on the top of my list for hockey trips next year.
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Me too. I'm such a weirdo because I actually want to go to Winnipeg. The way Teemu Selanne and Eddie Olczyk talk about it though makes me think it's not as bad as people think it is.

Granted, It's the coldest city in North America. Once you travel to places like Florida, California, and Texas, why would you want to live in Winnipeg? Can't imagine significant others like that prospect either.
 
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doublechili said:
If the NYR trade for Kane, hopefully they have to give up a 1st and a prospect. And then they get knocked out in the 1st round. And during contract negotiations following the season they're 20 cents apart and Kane hauls off and punches Dolan and then signs back with CHI.

Is that too much to ask?
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Better yet, hopefully they give up at least a first+ and Dolan forces Drury to sign Kane after they fail in the playoffs. Trouba can't knock out an opponents star every round, right?

Because you know Drury, who is renowned to have an ego, does NOT want Kane to begin with, let alone extend. And once Kane and his agent know that Dolan mandated his extension, they milk Drury for all he is worth. Costing the Rags a player like Chytil or Lindgren sooner than later.

All while failing in the playoffs for years and by then it is time for the next "Letter" and rebuild to occur.
 
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doublechili said:
I saw several new pages in this thread since yesterday and thought maybe there was a dippin' dots sighting.

I'm old enough to remember when most of the NYRs lived in Long Beach.
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My father used to beat up their kids. Always hated the rangers. He was a flyers fan before the isles existed and then became an isles fan. He still loves Dave Schultz though.
 
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SI90 said:
My father used to beat up their kids. Always hated the rangers. He was a flyers fan before the isles existed and then became an isles fan. He still loves Dave Schultz though.
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Lol… see between this, keying cars and getting knocked up in a car at the Coliseum parking lot… what’s all this talk about classless Isles fans! :sarcasm:

Also, Kasperi Kapanen on waivers. If I recall, several posters were higher on him than some Isles. I think though it kind of shows how many players look better from afar or worse up close*

* insert inappropriate dating/spouse/mom joke if one feels they must. It’s an easy layup.
 
BMOK33 said:
I’m not sure about now but Larry Brooks reported two years ago that only two players and one coach didn’t live in Manhattan. This was a huge difference from 1994 when evidently Graves was the only guy who lived in the city on the entire team. I assume the fact the city was extremely dangerous in the 70s and 80s likely contributed to it but not sure as many guys live in WChester or Jersey as we think might
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Times Square, Alphabet City and the northern tips of Manhattan (and obviously sections of the boroughs) were certainly rough in the 70's and 80's but not really accurate to label the entire city as "extremely dangerous." Especially for a wealthy hockey player who could afford to live in the hundreds of exclusive, ultra-luxurious apartment buildings of the UWS and UES.

As some mentioned above, being close to the practice facility (and able to have an actual home vs apartment) is the reason most chose to reside in Westchester.

Regarding 1994, I thought that Leetch, Richter and Messier all lived in Manhattan...

Richie Daggers Crime said:
I mean, it should be obvious why players want to go to the Rags. It has nothing to do with the fans.
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World famous arena, original 6 team, panache of playing in NYC...
 
CupHolders said:
Lol… see between this, keying cars and getting knocked up in a car at the Coliseum parking lot… what’s all this talk about classless Isles fans! :sarcasm:

Also, Kasperi Kapanen on waivers. If I recall, several posters were higher on him than some Isles. I think though it kind of shows how many players look better from afar or worse up close*

* insert inappropriate dating/spouse/mom joke if one feels they must. It’s an easy layup.
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Kapanen is decent. I think it’s the pens trying to clear cap for Chychrun maybe
 
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