Roster Building XXIV: Our Hearts Go Pitter Pattersson

[chaz4hockey]

The person supposedly scooped the Taylor Hall trade, but I'm still very skeptical.

I take it as nothing more than the parties realize Canes have lots of cap space and can afford Marner next year.

 

[MinJaBen]

That would be... interesting

I find this very hard to believe that this person has legit information other than speculating. Maybe this person has a source into Leafs or into the Canes where they could get one side of the story, but to know there is mutual interest would mean they need two very good sources OR know of a conversation between the two from one source, which is a big no-no while he is signed with the Leafs.

So....BS.

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

Marner makes all the sense in the world if Rantanen chooses to go elsewhere. Otherwise, I don't really see a fit here if we want to make sure that guys like Nikishin are locked up for max term.

 

[TheBigLetowski]

Marner is a star, but damn we need some heaviness.

 

[Chrispy]

Marner makes all the sense in the world if Rantanen chooses to go elsewhere. Otherwise, I don't really see a fit here if we want to make sure that guys like Nikishin are locked up for max term.

I'd also add that Marner made sense as a similar rental if Toronto talked about that at all, but that would need some major returns to allow Toronto to feel like they would still be competitive this year. Not sure if Necas + Drury + picks would have worked for Marner.

 

[BrindAmours Army]

The person supposedly scooped the Taylor Hall trade, but I'm still very skeptical.

Yeah that is the only reason I thought I'd share the tweet.

Maybe they just got lucky with calling Hall, but maybe they do actually have a source.

 

[robbieberns]

Much rather give Hall a two year deal, bring in a “best 4C in the league” kind of guy, splurge to get a legitimate partner for Slavin, spend the dough to get a Kochetkov equal or better in net, re-sign Robinson. Any extra money to play with should be used with potential big money Nikishin RFA deal in mind. Maybe an upgrade on Chatfield, a bigger guy to partner Nikishin? I think i’m at the point where i’m cool with keeping KK at 2C for now, maybe they flip him in the summer for an upgrade but really don’t mind him staying even if it’s to take over for Staal in two and a half years. Hell, if we win a Cup this year or next Staal might just call it early.

 

[Discipline Daddy]

We are going to have oodles of cap space this offseason regardless.

Probably makes most sense to saddle up to all the other teams who want to sign shiny new toys and take their perfectly good players for pennies on the dollar. But those kinds of moves will need to come around draft weekend when we have a clearer picture of what to do with Rantanen, Hall, Roslovic, and the other free agents.

 

[dogbazinho]

It makes sense for this to be leaked even if not true to drive up price for Marner.

 

[Brock Anton]

In their piece on the Rantanen trade, ESPN said that Kotkaniemi and Roslovic were on the table in a deal for Miller.

So while unlikely, I suppose going back to VAN is possible.

 

[DaveG]

In their piece on the Rantanen trade, ESPN said that Kotkaniemi and Roslovic were on the table in a deal for Miller.

So while unlikely, I suppose going back to VAN is possible.

This checks out with what I had heard. Fwiw I heard f***ing NOTHING about Rantanen even over the summer.

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

In their piece on the Rantanen trade, ESPN said that Kotkaniemi and Roslovic were on the table in a deal for Miller.

So while unlikely, I suppose going back to VAN is possible.

The Canes probably want salary retention in any Miller trade. Therefore, it's possible that the Canes get back to Vancouver if Miller's market is really down the toilet, but I still think that there will be a team out there that's more desperate for improvements and who won't be as picky about taking the full contract.

 

[MinJaBen]

The Canes probably want salary retention in any Miller trade. Therefore, it's possible that the Canes get back to Vancouver if Miller's market is really down the toilet, but I still think that there will be a team out there that's more desperate for improvements and who won't be as picky about taking the full contract.

And that Miller will agree to waive to?

I think they are stuck with him at this point.

 

[Sigurd]

If the prices for both EP and Miller have been/are low according to multiple sources, maybe Carolina should, at the very least, try to drive the trade costs up for both. I don't particularly want someone in the Eastern conference getting either player for relatively little.

However, Miller is more likely than EP for us at this point as others have indicated. I doubt we could do much in even driving up the costs for EP with the current roster players we're willing to trade.

Or maybe we say forget getting a 2C in a trade this season altogether (especially two expensive centers on long term contracts; EP more so) and focus on the position this summer along with, importantly, getting a new defensive partner for Slavin.

In the summer, signing Bennett for 2C, and Chychrun next to Slavin while Morrow develops, wouldn't break the bank (compared to EP40, Marner, or likely Ekblad) while still getting two really good players for positions of need.

 

[Sigurd]

I think that account is run by a 12 yr old or something. Also, the more I think about the adding a Miller/ High profile player, the less likely we'd see Rants re-sign. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think we let KK run that 2nd line with legit wingers and no Drury to swap with him. Let's get a rugged 4C who can win FO's + another D man and we look okay.

I remembered your post as I was scrolling through their Tweets.

Also him in the same Tweet thread:



Yeah, that's just too unlikely lol. As nice as it would be for the team's cap and flexibility.

 

[User13452]

I remembered your post as I was scrolling through their Tweets.

Also him in the same Tweet thread:



Yeah, that's just too unlikely lol. As nice as it would be for the team's cap and flexibility.

Highly doubt it when you consider Colorado was willing to make him the highest paid winger over Panarin which would of been close to 12

 

[MinJaBen]

I remembered your post as I was scrolling through their Tweets.

Also him in the same Tweet thread:



Yeah, that's just too unlikely lol. As nice as it would be for the team's cap and flexibility.

If all of this stuff is accurate, his knowledge suggests he may be an employee at an agency representing players, if these players share a common agency.

 

[A Star is Burns]

Hard to say where the truth lies with the Avs and Rantanen. I do remember reports when Devon Toews signed that the Avs grinded hard to get him to only seven years and it was a maybe a lower AAV than he could have gotten on the open market. As shocking as it is, we aren't the only team to grind for these deals. And even though it was said that the Avs were willing to give Rantanen more than Panarin in AAV, who knows if a formal offer to that end materialized and if it was for the full eight years. Some of that might line up with him having been willing to take a discount off the market rate as he said and this report says. It's hard to say if much of that alleged willingness will extend to us now that he's been traded.

 

[BB88]

When they are starting their playoff run and you have Aho& Rantanen on the same line you need someone with better finish than Blake next to them

They can’t afford to miss that many chances, he looks good and you notice him a lot but that notice doesn’t result into goals enough

Hard to say where the truth lies with the Avs and Rantanen. I do remember reports when Devon Toews signed that the Avs grinded hard to get him to only seven years and it was a maybe a lower AAV than he could have gotten on the open market. As shocking as it is, we aren't the only team to grind for these deals. And even though it was said that the Avs were willing to give Rantanen more than Panarin in AAV, who knows if a formal offer to that end materialized and if it was for the full eight years. Some of that might line up with him having been willing to take a discount off the market rate as he said and this report says. It's hard to say if much of that alleged willingness will extend to us now that he's been traded.

Using Panarins name by someone was a smart move

”Avs were willing to make Rantanen the highest paid winger in the league” by the smallest margin and oh by the way that Panarin contract was signed 6 years ago and is not relevant at all in todays market

But it made the Avs look better and Mikko worse by not accepting it

I bet Mikko would have taken the Mack contract and by all reports Avs werent’ willing to go there

 

[Borsig]

When they are starting their playoff run and you have Aho& Rantanen on the same line you need someone with better finish than Blake next to them

They can’t afford to miss that many chances, he looks good and you notice him a lot but that notice doesn’t result into goals enough



Using Panarins name by someone was a smart move

”Avs were willing to make Rantanen the highest paid winger in the league” by the smallest margin and oh by the way that Panarin contract was signed 6 years ago and is not relevant at all in todays market

But it made the Avs look better and Mikko worse by not accepting it

I bet Mikko would have taken the Mack contract and by all reports Avs werent’ willing to go there

Lets just pay the man.

for once.

 

[WreckingCrew]

So Washington locked up both Thompson and Lindgren, goalie market this offseason just got paper-thin