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I will sing from the rooftops if that's where it comes in at. I think it will be closer to 8x8.5
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Not a deep market for worker bee wingers. A Nino type would be ideal; someone capable of playing with anyone in different roles.
2 of Svechnikov, Jarvis and Guentzel (if re-signed) may have to play together away from Aho for proper balance on a shallower roster.
2 of Svechnikov, Jarvis and Guentzel (if re-signed) may have to play together away from Aho for proper balance on a shallower roster.
robbieberns
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Sabres just traded their 11th to the Sharks for 14th and 42nd.
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Another interesting pick for pick(s) swap before the draft. A bit unusual. I put here because of the Buffalo/Necas rumor.
Svechhammer
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Doesn't rule out a Necas trade, but might make it easier for them to bundle a few picks or even a better player or prospect coming back to us to make it work
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But... what kind of moron would trade a pick to a pair of lower ones?
14 for Necas might be more palatable with the other pieces we’ll be asking for…
TheReelChuckFletcher
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I would've traded a low draft pick for Grundstrom as a potential Martinook successor, but that guy has a golden opportunity in San Jose. Maybe he'll come back on the board later on.
CanesUltimate11
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But the only real risk of not having Necas next year is if he sits out right? And I can't see him wanting to tank his value like that.
FreshSeabass
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Forgive me if it’s been discussed already but Tyler Bertuzzi seems to be a fit. If he can be had around or at the 5.5 he got last season
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He was reportedly someone they were after last summer
Nikishin Go Boom
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8.5 for 8 is already too much. 9 is absurd.
Discipline Daddy
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Necas and Guentzel are both strong offensive players, weak defensively. One of them can get you a nice asset, the other can't. The simplest calculus is to deal Necas for the asset and sign Guentzel, and in doing so, you should have enough space to fill the other holes in the roster by not paying Necas his $7M.
I'd be pleasantly surprised if Necas yields much more than a #10 or #11 overall pick, though. I highly doubt we're getting JJ Peterka from Necas, for example, even straight up 1 for 1.
I'd be pleasantly surprised if Necas yields much more than a #10 or #11 overall pick, though. I highly doubt we're getting JJ Peterka from Necas, for example, even straight up 1 for 1.
robbieberns
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If i’m spending more than 8.5 on Guentzel I’d rather bring out the bag and spend 10.5-11 on Reinhart. Guentzel is a reliable ppg guy and a decent playoff performer but he’s ultimately a complimentary piece to Aho. Reinhart I’d be happy putting him on the 2nd line and let him drive the play from there.
Ugh. Someone is going to pay Reinhart for unsustainable career-best performance. Let it not be us.
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I see Guentzel as a bit more of a proven quantity at his highest end and we have proof of concept here. I'd easily take Jake in that scenario.
robbieberns
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Do you see him getting 12-12.5 on the market? Almost 60 goals and almost 100 points in his contract year will definitely get him solid offers, but he’s a beast and has been exactly ppg if you average his last three years. I maintain that we could probably outbid Florida while staying at a respectable number, but he will definitely get wild offers out there from teams with more cap and if he bag chases that’s just how it is.
Nikishin Go Boom
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seravalli said Reinhart turned down 8 x 9.5 from Florida. Teams better be willing to offer 7 x 11.5 (if thats true).
i think teams will be disappointed as he is more of a 35 goal scorer, not a 50 guy.
i think teams will be disappointed as he is more of a 35 goal scorer, not a 50 guy.
robbieberns
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I don’t think that’s unfair. I like Reinhart’s size and solo game changing ability and view those as cons purely when measured up against the idea of reaching overpayment territory for Guentzel. I’ve got more reservations about hitting higher dollar for Guentzel just cause his size and complimentary play also comes with the context of our top 6.
TheReelChuckFletcher
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Don't worry. Has that ever been in our MO? lol
Brock Anton
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Good luck to whoever gives Reinhart $10M+. That has terrible idea written all over it.
Svechhammer
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Buffalo or NJ, step right on up!
Joe McGrath
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I was going to disagree, then I saw he shot 24.5% this year which is flat out absurd.
Its the 9th highest shooting % in a season by a player with more than 40 games played and 1 other player with that high of a % scored more than 30. His regression will be swift and painful for someone.
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