GDT: Roster Building XVIII: Trade Deadline Week!

[Svechhammer]

I disagree.

If they are a contender every year, fans will still come to games and spend money. We have a ton of transplants down here that make up a big part of the fan base, and the number of transplants is growing at a fast pace. They will pay to see good hockey.

This team doesn't care about them

They don't, I've seen the presentations. They care about getting corporate purchases of season tickets to fill the lower bowl. That's where they hope PNC to be after the renovations

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

This team doesn't care about them

They don't, I've seen the presentations. They care about getting corporate purchases of season tickets to fill the lower bowl. That's where they hope PNC to be after the renovations

Either way, my point is the team isn't worried about what fans think in terms of moves. Fans, both individuals and corporate, will continue to come and spend money if the team is good and a contender.

 

[Chan790]

One other sneaky option to watch: Toffoli. I suspect Jersey will sell him off at the deadline if they can't extend him, and Toffoli seems like a "We have Jake Guentzel at home" Borg acquisition.

I don't think Jersey will take our call. Can't think they want to risk him re-signing in the division for the team they're chasing every year.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

This team doesn't care about them

They don't, I've seen the presentations. They care about getting corporate purchases of season tickets to fill the lower bowl. That's where they hope PNC to be after the renovations

That is literally every team’s goal. It doesn’t mean the team doesn’t care about everyone else

 

[hockeynjune]

I'm working on the WLOG logo for the tshirts. Everyone let me know your size.

XL , my wife says xxl , cuz beer happens

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

I said this earlier in another board, but Buchnevich screams Rangers to me. They made a horrendous mistake trading him the last time for practical pennies, and they are a highly reactionary team who care little about young assets. They are likely to grossly overpay to fix their own mess.

 

[hockeynjune]

Setting the stage for the big let down.

Caught that bouquet already

 

[hockeynjune]

What time is the riot? I need to know if I have to leave work early to beat traffic on 40.

Which Bojangles?

 

[moses malone 12]

I doubt they care if fans think they "tried".

I think they have a way they are going to run the team and a value they put on players and trades; and they are going to stick to it regardless of what people think. Whether that is trading popular players like Faulk, or letting popular players go via UFA like Dougie, Trochek, Nino, etc... or not paying high prices for rentals, etc...

They aren't worried about placating fans. That may piss off a few fans, but as long as they keep winning, they won't care.

you nailed it. I do think that majority of posters on the board disagree with mgmt's philosophy. we fail to see the value of retaining late 1st round picks and/or prospects that can be used to acquire rentals for a playoff run. This team places a significant value on these assets despite the low probability of many of these draft slots and players panning out. History proves this.

I don't see the logic of their "value system" when the lack of scoring has eliminated us every year in the playoffs. Barbashev would have been a great add last year yet they opted for Pool party because he cost nothing. His contribution on the ice was also nothing as compared to Barbashev who was a major contributor to LVK's Cup win.

They absolutely know this which leads me to think its Dundon. Doesn't make sense that an owner who has done so well doesn't do everything to increase his team's chances for a Cup.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

you nailed it. I do think that majority of posters on the board disagree with mgmt's philosophy. we fail to see the value of retaining late 1st round picks and/or prospects that can be used to acquire rentals for a playoff run. This team places a significant value on these assets despite the low probability of many of these draft slots and players panning out. History proves this.

I don't see the logic of their "value system" when the lack of scoring has eliminated us every year in the playoffs. Barbashev would have been a great add last year yet they opted for Pool party because he cost nothing. His contribution on the ice was also nothing as compared to Barbashev who was a major contributor to LVK's Cup win.

They absolutely know this which leads me to think its Dundon. Doesn't make sense that an owner who has done so well doesn't do everything to increase his team's chances for a Cup.

The problem is we get to poke holes in choices based on results. Barbashev was having a crappy year with 10 goals and 19 assists as of March 1st. That move looks 100% times better because of the results. At the time trading Dean for a guy struggling was questionable. Im sure had we known Svech was going to get hurt we may have done things differently.

Edit: it also comes down to, even if Barbs had sucked could they live without Dean, sure. He was a low B prospect. How does it affect us long term if we drop top prospects for JG and he sucks? Its very likely he does coming into a completely different system than most teams run.

 

[moses malone 12]

The problem is we get to poke holes in choices based on results. Barbashev was having a crappy year with 10 goals and 19 assists as of March 1st. That move looks 100% times better because of the results. At the time trading Dean for a guy struggling was questionable.

fair point but it collapses when you have to argue pool party was the player they ended up with. he was a reclamation project nothing more. Barbashev was a bonafide middle six winger who could play center in a pinch.

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

The problem is we get to poke holes in choices based on results. Barbashev was having a crappy year with 10 goals and 19 assists as of March 1st. That move looks 100% times better because of the results. At the time trading Dean for a guy struggling was questionable. Im sure had we known Svech was going to get hurt we may have done things differently.

It's important to note, too, that the Canes still went deeper than teams who threw the kitchen sink at roster upgrades.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

fair point but it collapses when you have to argue pool party was the player they ended up with. he was a reclamation project nothing more. Barbashev was a bonafide middle six winger who could play center in a pinch.

Why does it fall apart? Puljujarvi had just as much of a chance as having a weird small sample size run as Fast or Martinook did.

 

[Svechhammer]

It's important to note, too, that the Canes still went deeper than teams who threw the kitchen sink at roster upgrades.

Lol I've been having fun with a guy on the trade forum who keeps claiming our current core has never made a deep run in the playoffs.

Why does it fall apart? Puljujarvi had just as much of a chance as having a weird small sample size run as Fast or Martinook did.

Speaking of Poolparty, I was so convinced that the longer Game 1 went into OT the more likely it was that he'd do something silly and score the winning goal for us. ahh oh well

 

[hblueridgegal]

This should be so, so obvious by now.

They care about winning in the long term. Period. They have their plan, and they will stick to it. Period.

They don't give a shit who you like in the broadcast booth, or whether you think they found the right 2C, or whether you like Tony D. And they especially don't care what you think about how they did at the trade deadline.

As long as butts are in seats to buy pricey drinks. They know what this market will tolerate by now. Even the players say "no pressure" here. It's a very oiled business..they market very well and deflect with the best of them when they come up short.

But seriousness re: winning - enough to keep the good times rolling but I see Vegas and others as truly invested in winning.

 

[SlavinAway]

Lol I've been having fun with a guy on the trade forum who keeps claiming our current core has never made a deep run in the playoffs.

Speaking of Poolparty, I was so convinced that the longer Game 1 went into OT the more likely it was that he'd do something silly and score the winning goal for us. ahh oh well

They haven’t made it past the halfway mark!

 

[chaz4hockey]

Why does it fall apart? Puljujarvi had just as much of a chance as having a weird small sample size run as Fast or Martinook did.

He was injured goods though. He had no chance to excel.

 

[Svechhammer]

Our goalie room is getting crowded!

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

He was injured goods though. He had no chance to excel.

We know that now

Our goalie room is getting crowded!

That about ends a roster player added without someone going out. Unless we paper waive him

 

[SlavinAway]

Raanta for JG

 

[ElmCityGuy]

We know that now


That about ends a roster player added without someone going out. Unless we paper waive him

How about Bunting-Raanta-Necas on the 2nd line?

Bunting - Spencer Martin- Jarvis?

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

How about Bunting-Raanta-Necas on the 2nd line?

Bunting - Spencer Martin- Jarvis?

We have advanced from stopping goals with all defenders to employing a 2nd goalie to guard the other half of the net. I likee

 

[moses malone 12]

He was injured goods though. He had no chance to excel.

yes. poor guy couldn't turn. he looked like a filing cabinet on skates.

 

[Stickpucker]

Doubt he wants to leave Ottawa even with then struggling. He’s nearing the end of his career and he’s at home there. I think he’s happy where he is.

Momma Giroux didn't raise no bich.

He want return a Cane and win le cup de Stanlee

 

[ElmCityGuy]

We have advanced from stopping goals with all defenders to employing a 2nd goalie to guard the other half of the net. I likee

The bonus is if you are down a goal late in the game and pull the goalie for the extra attacker you still have a goalie in the game. Genius idea I might say.