Roster Building XVII: Some Of Us Like Some Parts Of Our Group

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Seravalli said he liked our package better than NJs for Meier

We offered an overwhelming package for EP40

We offered a futures based package that Friedman said should have taken (of course that is hindsight).

We can only make really good offers, we can’t force the other team accept it. It doesn’t sound like we aren’t offering deals that are yes worthy.

Can’t imagine the Canes front office is happy with Vancouver that their sieve group would leak the names Carolina was offering

 

[To Be Determined]

Has anyone pointed out yet that this move is essentially the canes paying peanuts and getting a free pick to make an eastern conference playoff team worse?

why the hell did toronto do this?

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Has anyone pointed out yet that this move is essentially the canes paying peanuts and getting a free pick to make an eastern conference playoff team worse?

why the hell did toronto do this?

Toronto downgraded GMs. Their GM still believes in old school hockey where skating isn’t as important as grabbing and hitting. He has some belief that physicality is the only reason they aren’t good.

 

[Daeavorn]

Are we being conspired against by the other owners?

I feel like they make sure we never can make the kinds of trade we absolutely need.

 

[Stickpucker]

Nope. Im anti ford so i will not try this

i have you pinned as a buick man.

 

[Navin R Slavin]

Are we being conspired against by the other owners?

I feel like they make sure we never can make the kinds of trade we absolutely need.

There are 31 other GMs out there also making offers, desperately trying to improve their teams.

It's not a conspiracy. It's math.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

i have you pinned as a buick man.

Funny enough that was my first car.

An 11 year old Buick Le Sabre. Grandma car which was awesome for a 16 year old with it’s drooping ceiling /s.

Did have a v6 though

 

[User13452]

https://t.co/8MsE7Emu49

“We like our group”

 

[Stickpucker]

I'm okay with this trade if we get another Seth Jarvis.

Next Datsyuk or bust.

 

[raynman]

Next Datsyuk or bust.

Conuston McMatthews hybrid please.

 

[FlyingSquirrels]

We just buttered up Anaheim so we can get Henrique from them for cheap. Watch.

 

[Daeavorn]

There are 31 other GMs out there also making offers, desperately trying to improve their teams.

It's not a conspiracy. It's math.

And yet media journalists have admitted that we've made very good offers both times for both high tier players we've tried to acquire and still have been passed over.

Seravalli even admitted he liked ours for New Jersey better.

 

[FlyingSquirrels]

What's the sense in sending Slepets away? Canes apparently are 41/50 in contracts currently, so it wasn't due to contract amount constraints (plus obviously he's not even signed onto a contract). This is other shoe business again, because so far Canes didn't gain but goodwill here?

DATE	TRADE DETAILS
Mar. 1, 2024	Toronto Maple Leafs Acquire: From CAR: Kirill Slepets · $0 (AHL/JR) (Signing Rights) Ilya Lyubushkin ($687,500 retained - 50%) · $687,500 Sum: $687,500 Change: +$687,500		Anaheim Ducks Acquire: From TOR: 2025 3rd round pick (TOR) Sum: $0 Change: -$1,375,000		Carolina Hurricanes Acquire: From ANA: Ilya Lyubushkin ($1,375,000 retained - 50%) · $1,375,000 From TOR: 2024 6th round pick (TOR) Sum: $1,375,000 Change: +$687,500

Slepets will never sniff the NHL.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

We just buttered up Anaheim so we can get Henrique from them for cheap. Watch.

Its likely we have been talking to Anaheim for a while about a deal. They used that back and forth to help them complete another deal.

We’ll see if it leads to anything else

 

[bleedgreen]

Seravalli said he liked our package better than NJs for Meier

We offered an overwhelming package for EP40

We offered a futures based package that Friedman said should have taken (of course that is hindsight).

We can only make really good offers, we can’t force the other team accept it. It doesn’t sound like we aren’t offering deals that are yes worthy.

Can’t imagine the Canes front office is happy with Vancouver that their sieve group would leak the names Carolina was offering

Agreed on the leak, the one thought I had about that is if the names involved are common names we’re offering right now. Not that it makes it right at all but maybe the media is looser with guys everyone can have? That would frustrate me about Necas who I think is pretty important. If they know his range and have decided against it he’s probably being offered around, as is KK.

They were the same with Lindy and Hanifin for the week they had their meetings right before that draft.

 

[Navin R Slavin]

And yet media journalists have admitted that we've made very good offers both times for both high tier players we've tried to acquire and still have been passed over.

Seravalli even admitted he liked ours for New Jersey better.

Journalists are not GMs.

Teams have relationships. Every deal has its own unique parameters. There are plenty of reasonable explanations that are not "everyone is out to get the Carolina Hurricanes".

 

[Lempo]

Slepets will never sniff the NHL.

We still have prospect ranking threads to fill.

 

[AhosDatsyukian]

Next Datsyuk or bust.

we should just get the actual Datsyuk. call me crazy but I think he could immediately step in as a 2C in the NHL again and would be a huge upgrade for us

 

[Bunch of Jurcos]

Journalists are not GMs.

Teams have relationships. Every deal has its own unique parameters. There are plenty of reasonable explanations that are not "everyone is out to get the Carolina Hurricanes".

But muh narrative

 

[MinJaBen]

We still have prospect ranking threads to fill.

They did us a favor.

 

[hockeynjune]

Yet here we are

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

There are two more retention slots that we are allowed to use in trades. If the only reasonable trades available beyond Pettersson are for depth guys, I wonder if they plan to use them to get a couple more penny stocks in this upcoming draft. It may be deeply unsexy, but you just never know with the lower rounds. Usually you come up with nothing, but sometimes you get something very interesting.

 

[Stickpucker]

Yet here we are

Get that pour soul a drink. That water bottle is doing them no good.

Looks like a whiskey kinda day.

 

[chaz4hockey]

There are two more retention slots that we are allowed to use in trades. If the only reasonable trades available beyond Pettersson are for depth guys, I wonder if they plan to use them to get a couple more penny stocks in this upcoming draft. It may be deeply unsexy, but you just never know with the lower rounds. Usually you come up with nothing, but sometimes you get something very interesting.

Isn’t this year’s draft very weak?

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Isn’t this year’s draft very weak?

in terms of first round talent and depth of that talent, yes. Its hard to judge how a draft will look rounds 3-7 vs other drafts