Roster Building (& Training Camp) XXIII: Re-signings, Re-considerations, Recriminations

[A Star is Burns]

I think they are prioritizing age, contract slide, and letting FUS play center

Fair enough, but most of that is unrelated to a preseason game.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Fair enough, but most of that is unrelated to a preseason game.

True. Blake will be the first priority to make the roster based on those factors and giving him a chance to play with the big squad

 

[A Star is Burns]

True. Blake will be the first priority to make the roster based on those factors and giving him a chance to play with the big squad

I guess I'm also intrigued to see the strategy with back to back games coming up too. Seems odd to close out the preseason that way but I'm guessing they still send the AHL crew on the road. If they don't, I just thought putting a few of the better performing rookies with some vet talent in one of the games would be a good idea in a number of ways.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

I dont know, maybe I am just a bit fed up with the "Rod style Canes", especially now when Rod made such a long contract. Yeah it is effective to a certain point but it just seems that in playoffs other teams figure it out.. and its also just a boring way to play hockey. Sometimes it just feels that this kind of system is just some data analysts wet dream

How quickly we forget the Karmanos years post the cup win. 1 playoff appearance in 12 seasons, no playoffs for 9 straight, spending just above the floor, crappy attendance, boring (and bad) hockey, a roster full of AHL/NHL tweeters, a location nobody wanted to play in and constant rumors of relocation.

Yeah, sucks that Rod has such a long contract and the team uses analytics. Won't they stop for a moment and think of us fans?

 

[A Star is Burns]

How quickly we forget the Karmanos years post the cup win. 1 playoff appearance in 12 seasons, no playoffs for 9 straight, spending just above the floor, crappy attendance, boring (and bad) hockey, a roster full of AHL/NHL tweeters, a location nobody wanted to play in and constant rumors of relocation.

Yeah, sucks that Rod has such a long contract and the team uses analytics. Won't they stop for a moment and think of us fans?

We also know that Dundon would prefer to hire a coach on the cheap. That is unlikely to work out as well with coaches that don't have an insanely strong tie to the franchise. Even with a good budget you can wander in the wilderness searching for a good coach for a long ass time.

I've said it time and again but some folks might need to be careful what they wish for. Runs like this are far from a given.

 

[Navin R Slavin]

"Rod style Canes"

That's a funny way of spelling "relevance"

 

[The Faulker 27]

I figured we'd make it to at least late Nov/ early December before we got the Rod's style sucks posts. That's usually right before they turn it around and finish at the top of the division. It's my cue to start watching more intently when I see them.

 

[TheBigLetowski]

I'd bet every GM in the league would want RBA and his "Rod style Canes" coaching

 

[CandyCanes]

Blake / Morrow in the game tonight with the mostly NHLer group.

 

[The Faulker 27]

Blake / Morrow in the game tonight with the mostly NHLer group.

Is it weird that we have regular season starting for 2 teams, and the rest still playing preseason? Maybe that's normal. I don't usually follow it that closely I guess.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

Is it weird that we have regular season starting for 2 teams, and the rest still playing preseason? Maybe that's normal. I don't usually follow it that closely I guess.

It's not normal, but I imagine it's because teams are playing in Prague

 

[cptjeff]

We also know that Dundon would prefer to hire a coach on the cheap. That is unlikely to work out as well with coaches that don't have an insanely strong tie to the franchise. Even with a good budget you can wander in the wilderness searching for a good coach for a long ass time.

I've said it time and again but some folks might need to be careful what they wish for. Runs like this are far from a given.

Seriously. Rod has his faults. No one is perfect, after all. But his approach has us in the playoffs every year, often with a serious chance at winning. We have the 3rd best record in the NHL for the last 5 years. We're one of the top teams in playoff wins over that period too. And we have a true identity and a leader who actually gives a shit about this team specifically, not just about their own career. The power of that can't be overstated.

And then there's this: Name someone available who's better. You have to compare to the alternatives, not to theoretical perfection.

We have a damn good thing going right now, and Rod is at the center of it. I don't agree with everything he does, but at this point, as long has he wants to coach, I want him to be coach.

 

[chaz4hockey]

Seriously. Rod has his faults. No one is perfect, after all. But his approach has us in the playoffs every year, often with a serious chance at winning. We have the 3rd best record in the NHL for the last 5 years. We're one of the top teams in playoff wins over that period too. And we have a true identity and a leader who actually gives a shit about this team specifically, not just about their own career. The power of that can't be overstated.

And then there's this: Name someone available who's better. You have to compare to the alternatives, not to theoretical perfection.

We have a damn good thing going right now, and Rod is at the center of it. I don't agree with everything he does, but at this point, as long has he wants to coach, I want him to be coach.

Agreed and I believe he has crafted the style to account for the type of players (with a couple of exceptions, ie Necas) that the Canes have rostered. We've never had a full roster of offensive juggernauts to test his flexability.

I suspect that if his roster had McDavid-Drai or MackInnon-Makar that his crafted style of play would be different, at least for that top line or two.

I'd add that the Aho line with that Pittsburgh trade deadline acq. was much more freewheeling that we had seen before. Thus, I believe Coach can adjust.

 

[Navin R Slavin]

Agreed and I believe he has crafted the style to account for the type of players (with a couple of exceptions, ie Necas) that the Canes have rostered. We've never had a full roster of offensive juggernauts to test his flexability.

I suspect that if his roster had McDavid-Drai or MackInnon-Makar that his crafted style of play would be different, at least for that top line or two.

I'd add that the Aho line with that Pittsburgh trade deadline acq. was much more freewheeling that we had seen before. Thus, I believe Coach can adjust.

I mean, the system is "get it deep, get it back, and bring defensemen into the play quickly", but I'm sure there's some wiggle room in that -- if you get one on one coverage with speed and can beat your man, for instance.

That doesn't mean gambling that you can split the D-men into the zone and being wrong most of the time. No matter how fast Necas thinks he is, he still tries to play hero too much for my taste, and that's when it's most likely to come back the other way in a hurry when he turns it over in the neutral zone.

 

[Ole Gil]

"Potentially youthful roster". Damn, so did we get back to that "just a couple more years and we will make a deep run"?

And yeah, I do think Canes will be a playoff team but to be honest I dont just dont see this roster winning a cup. Hopefully I am wrong, but winning a cup would require huge steps from a alot of guys.

I dont know, maybe I am just a bit fed up with the "Rod style Canes", especially now when Rod made such a long contract. Yeah it is effective to a certain point but it just seems that in playoffs other teams figure it out.. and its also just a boring way to play hockey. Sometimes it just feels that this kind of system is just some data analysts wet dream

Florida plays a very similar system. They Rod Style'd their way to the cup.

 

[chaz4hockey]

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[chaz4hockey]

nice props for Blake by RBA:

https://x.com/i/web/status/1842266231648436666

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

We also know that Dundon would prefer to hire a coach on the cheap.

I don't know if that is true, especially when you consider that a coach's salary is not capped and our team is in the middle of a contention window. What Dundon is more known for being cheap about is for positions that don't directly impact the success of the team, such as, say, the TV announcers.