Speculation: Roster Building Thread XXXVIII - Dust in the wind…

[TheBloodyNine]

Guys,

He’s not good at coaching. That’s why Nemeth is back. That’s why Greg McKegg is going to be playing every game. That’s why Rooney plays in OT. That’s why we have no coherent strategy. That’s why he was left on the side of the road.

he’s a bad coach.

 

[Vitto79]

Guys,

He’s not good at coaching. That’s why Nemeth is back. That’s why Greg McKegg is going to be playing every game. That’s why Rooney plays in OT. That’s why we have no coherent strategy. That’s why he was left on the side of the road.

he’s a bad coach.

This bad Coach has the team winning and locked into a playoff spot

 

[TheBloodyNine]

This bad Coach has the team winning and locked into a playoff spot

Igor has this team in a playoff spot. They’d have even more points, but Gallant has made a number of bad goaltending start calls.

 

[Fitzy]

Bloody- every coach makes odd roster decisions that piss off the fanbase.

Bickel, Glass, Claesson, JJ, Nemeth... there's never gonna be a lineup that doesn't include at least one guy fans dont think should be there.

 

[IDvsEGO]

Chytil plays like shit for half a season and people want him off the roster, he plays decent for two games and scores a garbage goal bc the goalie lost the rebound on a routine play and now he's our 2c going forward.

Never change...

The goal isnt the reason people are higher on him. Its his play over 2 games, plus the fact that he was clearly injured earlier. So he was dog shit while unhealthy. With a player who uses his speed to impact play, a lbi is going to mess them up.
Patience is gonna be needed here but if this is the real chytil the rest of the season, then it might be that we do have a 2c.
The other question is can he stay healthy. He's been injured almost every season.

 

[IDvsEGO]

Igor has this team in a playoff spot. They’d have even more points, but Gallant has made a number of bad goaltending start calls.

And yet a roster with basically the same players as last year, on pace for 40 more points. Im not saying gallant has made every perfect decision. But playing monday morning QB with a coach who seems to have a really good pulse on his team seems silly.
His bad goalie decisions have igor both well rested and on pace to win the vezina.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

This bad Coach has the team winning and locked into a playoff spot

He’s had nothing to do with it

 

[Alluckks]

Adam Fox is 5' 11"

Tom Brady was a 6th round pick

 

[Vitto79]

He’s had nothing to do with it

lol ok sure . If you think this team would be this high up in the standings W Quinn you are lying to yourself

they brought in players that play the way Gallant wants . You don’t have to like it but it’s working

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

lol ok sure . If you think this team would be this high up in the standings W Quinn you are lying to yourself

they brought in players that play the way Gallant wants . You don’t have to like it but it’s working

Difference is they’re more clutch this season and not throwing away as many points as they did last year. I guess you can attribute that to Gallants guys, Goodrow in particular is a closer

 

[TheBloodyNine]

And yet a roster with basically the same players as last year, on pace for 40 more points. Im not saying gallant has made every perfect decision. But playing monday morning QB with a coach who seems to have a really good pulse on his team seems silly.
His bad goalie decisions have igor both well rested and on pace to win the vezina.

He has a good pulse on the team? If he did I think maybe he would have done something like, you know, fix their 5v5 play. If they have the basically same roster as last season it shouldn’t be this bad, right? If he had a good pulse on the team, don’t you think he’d continue to play Jones-Schneider?

their spot in the standings is because of Igor. Igor was not playing at this level last season even as good as he was.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Bloody- every coach makes odd roster decisions that piss off the fanbase.

Bickel, Glass, Claesson, JJ, Nemeth... there's never gonna be a lineup that doesn't include at least one guy fans dont think should be there.

It’s not the odd roster decisions with this coach it’s all the time. He has no eye for what’s going on out there because he’s too much the old boys club. It’s Neanderthal thinking hockey. No difference between him or Torts or AV at this point.

 

[duhmetreE]

Seems clear to me he wants Bruins, or Penguins, style hockey. Only he doesn't have the players for it so it all becomes weird. I agree with you I just don't see a template being installed, the way Tampa built it's foundation for the last two cups. The Rangers are not doing themselves any favors by this win now playing sh*t hockey expediency > development.

Chytil needs to skate hard and go to the net, Florida/PLD style. If he can do that consistently with support he will break out. But for whatever reason the Rangers are allergic to that atm. If he can break out, like Tage Thompson is doing this year at 24, it will solve a lot of problems.

Trade for Gourde retained and Lehkonen. Goodrow-Gourde-Lehkonen is a cup caliber 3rd line. The top two lines are set with Chytil stepping in for Strome. This is essentially the "Panarin window" top-9. Maybe Goodrow drops to the 4th line and Othmann/Cuylle steps into the third but that's academic.

Something around Berard, Kravtsov + 1st for Gourde @50/3 years + maybe add something for Jarnkrok/Donskoi as a rental and upgrade over Gauthier. Expensive for the Rangers but, that would give the Kraken a future line of Berard-Beniers-Kravtsov + a 1st, and honestly Gourde good player that he is, is no 1C.

I don't know if I'd count on Chytil as 2C. I'd like him as a RWer a lot more.

The problem is our middle 6 centers are average to poor defensively.

Lehkonen is a must IMO. We need a matchup line.

In the short term;

Kreider Zibs Laffy
Panarin Strome Chytil
Lekhonen Goodrow Kakko

Long term Center option will be most likely off-season moves. I'm more than fine with a Lundkvist for Turcotte swap

I do not want to rush Othmann or Cuylle nor would I want to trade Berard because he's the exact type of player we need.

I honestly would rather break up Panarin and Strome but I know it wont happen. I'd stack the top line and give Strome some kids.

Panarin Zibs Kreider
Lafreniere Strome Chytil
Lehkonen Goodrow Kakko

Panarin would benefit the most playing with Kreider. He creates space with his speed. When Panarin pulls his pateneted 'pull up on the boards' routine, Kreider driving the net opens A LOT more lanes. Zibs would be our biggest threat and beneficiary. It'd be akin to the Kreider-Zibs-Zucc line that caught fire before Zucc was moved.

 

[Avery16]

What does Zib think about this

 

[bleedblue94]

The goal isnt the reason people are higher on him. Its his play over 2 games, plus the fact that he was clearly injured earlier. So he was dog shit while unhealthy. With a player who uses his speed to impact play, a lbi is going to mess them up.
Patience is gonna be needed here but if this is the real chytil the rest of the season, then it might be that we do have a 2c.
The other question is can he stay healthy. He's been injured almost every season.

The physical injury does not address the lack of hockey IQ that we've seen for years. It's great that he's skating better and doing some stuff out on the ice, but that doesn't fix any of his hockey sense issues that we've been saying for almost 2 years are going to hold him back from being a legitimate top 6 hockey player in this league. That didn't change

 

[NYR]

Maybe Nemeth is in the lineup simply bc he has a role (on another team) and GM's want to see him play?

Just a thought..

 

[Cag29]

Absolutely agree that this is the route they should go in.
I doubt MtL wants to move Caufield at this time..., Barron needs to play. They have him on the taxi squad wasting away in favor of playing inferior players.
I think Drury swings a major deal in the summer for a strome replacement..
Next seasons team will likely take a step back in the standings, but it’s needed to take 2 steps FWD. I think we add Lehkonen at the TDL for this season and beyond.
I think LaF may turn some heads with the way he comes back from the offseason....

Kreider-Zibby-LaF
Panarin-Trade/UFA Copp)-kakko/Blais
Blais/Kakko-Goodrow-Lehkonen
Hunt-Barron-Reaves
Ex Gauthier? Gettinger/Ruesschoff

they add Greiss/Halak type back up.
And the hope is 1 of Berard/Othmann/Cuylle are knocking on the door in camp ...
The above line up has various guys that can slide up and down lines 2-4 if need be to cover injuries/chemistry/etc and still give you solid honest 2-way play shifts. It’s also got good size/better speed then what we currently have

if they’re not trying to move trouba next season, I’d leave our D alone.

Where’s Fil?

 

[duhmetreE]

Guys,

He’s not good at coaching. That’s why Nemeth is back. That’s why Greg McKegg is going to be playing every game. That’s why Rooney plays in OT. That’s why we have no coherent strategy. That’s why he was left on the side of the road.

he’s a bad coach.

He's getting the benefit of the doubt as long as we're winning. 5v5 is poor but Special Teams have been good. His personnel decisions have been bad.

I honestly don't know what our system is though. I don't know what our identity is. That is something that comes down to Gallant. This teams even strength play is frustrating

 

[Idlerlee]

What does Zib think about this

Well the Rangers dont pay him to DJ. But he is probably pissed off and keep stealing Troubas left socks.

 

[TominNC]

Fans are always going to hate the coach. They can't help themselves. Sorry, but real life, with real people playing and real personalities and minor injuries we don't know about and a million other things are why some people coach and the rest bitch and moan. I'm ok with Gallant.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

He's getting the benefit of the doubt as long as we're winning. 5v5 is poor but Special Teams have been good. His personnel decisions have been bad.

I honestly don't know what our system is though. I don't know what our identity is. That is something that comes down to Gallant. This teams even strength play is frustrating

AV got the benefit of the doubt too, Torts as well. I've seen this story before. Too many times.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Fans are always going to hate the coach. They can't help themselves. Sorry, but real life, with real people playing and real personalities and minor injuries we don't know about and a million other things are why some people coach and the rest bitch and moan. I'm ok with Gallant.

So you're ok with the 5v5 play, the lack of development of Laf and Kakko, the overplaying of plugs, and the constant usage of Patrick Nemeth then. Got it. All of these things are, of course, a recipe for long term success.

 

[AlaBlueShirt]

AV got the benefit of the doubt too, Torts as well. I've seen this story before. Too many times.

You will be hired next.

 

[RGY]

Guys,

He’s not good at coaching. That’s why Nemeth is back. That’s why Greg McKegg is going to be playing every game. That’s why Rooney plays in OT. That’s why we have no coherent strategy. That’s why he was left on the side of the road.

he’s a bad coach.

This is the definition of a clown LOL post. Dramatic.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

This is the definition of a clown LOL post. Dramatic.

I forgot you think that the 5v5 play of this team is flawless. You are also a huge proponent of Greg McKegg right?

He's been unceremoniously dismissed from EVERY TEAM. He didn't even make it 3 years in Vegas.