Speculation: Roster Building Thread XXXIV: Walk the line into the ring of fire

[RGY]

I worry a lot about the cap.

The cap is 80m, if it goes up the ask from the players will go up. There is only so much money to go around.

Lets say that we can get 2 goalies and a 4th line for 15m per. That leaves 65m for the top 15 skaters. 4.3m on average.

Trouba and Panarin takes 20m of those 65m. 45m left for the remaining 13 top 15 skaters. 3.4m on average. If we have FOUR (say a combo of Ziba, Kreider, Buch, Kakko, TDA, Fox, Chytil and the likes) making 28m combined (seems really cheap to me, but just for example), it just leaves 17m for the remaining 9 top 15 skaters. Remember that those 17m basically have to cover our 1 or 2 second line players, our entire 3rd line and a 3-4 D and a 3rd pairing on the D.

Competing in this league is to a huuuuuuuuggggeee extent about finding cap steals, to be able to get performance/production from really cheap players and so forth.

Claiming that Gorton's by far biggest challenge will be vis-a-vis the cap, and not for example to get more top talent through the draft, is definitely hard to argue against. Our ability on the ice will be limited by the cap to a much bigger degree than it will be limited by lack of available talent.

And as I was alluding to, they can move some pieces around and get by for next season. After next they get a ton of breathing room.

It is no easy task, but it is not impossible.

 

[Fitzy]

Tkachuk in would still probably require Kreider out.

I don't think hes the guy they move. I'd rather have him than Eichel though..

I value sandpaper a lot, but really?

A 60-70 point winger versus an 80-90 point center is no contest in my mind.

 

[Ghost of jas]

Tkachuk in would still probably require Kreider out.

I don't think hes the guy they move. I'd rather have him than Eichel though..

I love Kreider, but, if he's needed to be moved to bring in Tkachuk, well, bye Chris.

 

[Thirty One]

I’m going to laugh at the Sens if they keep Pageau without a contract.

 

[Minmonster]

Why would henrik waive to go to a team a few pats in front of us?

Because he is really competitive and wants to prove to himself that he's not done

 

[Rongomania]

Matt Tkachuk is the normal looking one, right? Not the one with the ugly face and bizarrely long neck? If so, yeah, I'm on board.

I'd do filthy, Tony DeAngelo + related things to get him here. With this draft the offense would more than likely be set for the next 5+ years.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

And as I was alluding to, they can move some pieces around and get by for next season. After next they get a ton of breathing room.

It is no easy task, but it is not impossible.

A ton of breathing room, this guy doesn't understand you have to re-sign other young players

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I value sandpaper a lot, but really?

A 60-70 point winger versus an 80-90 point center is no contest in my mind.

More like a 70-80 point winger vs 80-90 pt center. Tkachuk's additional stuff makes him the more attractive player for me, Eichel can have the 10 extra points.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

I love Kreider, but, if he's needed to be moved to bring in Tkachuk, well, bye Chris.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

Man, I'd love to have any one of the Tkachuk brothers or Eichel on this team. Much more so than, say, Nylander. Doubt any of them are on the move any time soon, however.

Speaking of those guys, go check out their pics on hockeydb. Eichel looks like he could be another Tkachuk.

 

[NYR Viper]

More like a 70-80 point winger vs 80-90 pt center. Tkachuk's additional stuff makes him the more attractive player for me, Eichel can have the 10 extra points.

I really think Eichel has more to give. He’s playing on a perennial horrible team.

I’d be totally fine with either but the main difference for me would be Eichel’s contract length left is better. I’ll take the player with term

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Man, I'd love to have any one of the Tkachuk brothers or Eichel on this team. Much more so than, say, Nylander. Doubt any of them are on the move any time soon, however.

Speaking of those guys, go check out their pics on hockeydb. Eichel looks like he could be another Tkachuk.

That's a very nice way to call Eichel ugly.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

I really think Eichel has more to give. He’s playing on a perennial horrible team.

I’d be totally fine with either but the main difference for me would be Eichel’s contract length left is better. I’ll take the player with term

Imagine Eichel with Panarin on his wing?

 

[mas0764]

I love Kreider, but, if he's needed to be moved to bring in Tkachuk, well, bye Chris.

Feel like that’s something we should be planning to have the flexibility for now, eh?

Like maybe not lock ourselves into a decreasing value asset with a NTC, and instead parlay him into two or three cost controlled, cheap assets that will rise in value, that can be moved? Eh? EH?

 

[rangers1314]

Sorry - but can someone catch me up? Where did all this Tkachuk talk come from?

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

That's a very nice way to call Eichel ugly.

I'm saying he has similar bone structure/features. I make no value judgments.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Sorry - but can someone catch me up? Where did all this Tkachuk talk come from?

Nowhere.

Just that Flames may make some moves but nothing ever mentioned Tkachuk aside from speculation from posters here.

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

F it, let’s go for the playoffs, it’s a good stepping stone and learning experience for this team:

- Resign Krieder (meaning that Skjei or Strome are goners in offseason), make him C
- trade Fast for a 2nd even if we flip a 5th or something (hurts us for playoffs but at this point would rather give time to others to see what they bring)
- trade Georgie and Lias if value is there for young C or futures, even as combo or revisit in off season
- off load Smith even at 50% by adding an asset

even if we get waxed in playoffs or come up short making every game important, the experience should rub off going forward to more glorious days

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

My God imagine Zbad, Eichel and Chytil down the middle.

Assuming itd cost ADA, Miller/Kravstov and their 2020 #1 at a minimum.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Nowhere.

Just that Flames may make some moves but nothing ever mentioned Tkachuk aside from speculation from posters here.

Well the actual report was that the Flames were willing to discuss big names.

To me that sounded more like Gaudreau/Giordano than Tkachuk or Monahan but I could be wrong.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

My God imagine Zbad, Eichel and Chytil down the middle.

Assuming itd cost ADA, Miller/Kravstov and their 2020 #1 at a minimum.

I think Chytil is part of that package too

 

[haohmaru]

Sorry - but can someone catch me up? Where did all this Tkachuk talk come from?

Someone's rectum, like 80% of the stuff around here.

 

[DutchShamrock]

Great, Tkachuk rumor out of nowhere. So 2 more roster threads before evening.

If a big name was available in Calgary, it would be Gaudreau before Tkachuk. Chucky won't be pried away with DeAngelo. It'll be a disgusting ransom.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Imagine Eichel with Panarin on his wing?

I don't think the combo would work that well TBH. Both guys like to carry and hang onto the puck.

 

[NYSPORTS]

Prediction: the Rangers announce first thing Monday they have re-signed left winger Phil Di Giuseppe.

I bet his Grandmother makes a great Zuppa Di Pesce.