Speculation: Roster Building Thread VI (2019/2020)

[Machinehead]

Don't you ever give it a rest?

Show me the last season Staal wasn't on our top PK unit.

 

[Edge]

A stint in the minors never stunted Larmer's career....I'm glad we sent a couple of the kids to the AHL . Hopefully they play a lot and have some guys watching out for them down there .

In many ways, it's too bad we only had Larmer for the last two years of his career and with a bad back.

I think he would've been one of the most loved players in franchise history had he spent his prime here.

 

[Tawnos]

Show me the last season Staal wasn't on our top PK unit.

17-18? Well, I guess until McDonagh went out of the lineup. Full season, 16-17.

 

[NYSPORTS]

Why is no one discussing the Hajek-Fox pairing? Putting two rookies out on defense together is a pretty controversial move, I'd ague more so than the differences between the third and fourth lines.

There will be growing pains. Obtaining the talent is a huge part of the rebuild while these kids need time to develop. Meanwhile, the total breakdown still hasn’t happened until a few more veterans are gone.

 

[Machinehead]

17-18? Well, I guess until McDonagh went out of the lineup. Full season, 16-17.

The difference between PK ice time for Staal and McDonagh is not as much as you think. I could have phrased that better.

The point is, we've always used him heavily and me suggesting that we will continue to do so is hardly an agenda against Staal.

 

[PuckLuck3043]

Show me the last season Staal wasn't on our top PK unit.

My bad. I though you were saying that Stall would be a first line pairing Dman even strength.

 

[Machinehead]

My bad. I though you were saying that Stall would be a first line pairing Dman even strength.

I mean, he's gonna play a lot at even strength too lol

I don't like Marc Staal and that's not a secret, but saying the Rangers value him greatly is not part of the agenda. They absolutely do.

 

[LORDE]

Deploy our secret defensive weapons: a pair of gingers.

We have no souls so we aren't worried about pissing off God

 

[Tawnos]

The difference between PK ice time for Staal and McDonagh is not as much as you think. I could have phrased that better.

The point is, we've always used him heavily and me suggesting that we will continue to do so is hardly an agenda against Staal.

It's exactly as much as a think (15-30ish seconds per game).

 

[Machinehead]

It's exactly as much as a think (15-30ish seconds per game).

Well there you go

 

[FoxysExpensiveNYDigs]

I'm shocked that no one claimed synergistic 2c Boo Nieves. Shocked I tell ya!

 

[will1066]

Speaking of synergies, McKegg and Haley showed some. Curious.

 

[Richard Banger]

@Machinehead stop ruining threads for me.

 

[Thirty One]

Deploy our secret defensive weapons: a pair of gingers.

Staal and Fox are daywalkers.

 

[pld459666]

I think because the collective has already made up their minds that based on their limited viewings of him, Fox is a stud and therefore putting two rookies on the pairing isn't a concern.

Just spit balling here.

I found this both funny and true.

Fox is Leetch incarnate

 

[NYR94]

In many ways, it's too bad we only had Larmer for the last two years of his career and with a bad back.

I think he would've been one of the most loved players in franchise history had he spent his prime here.

When Andersson took #28 the first former Ranger I thought of was Larmer.

 

[Levitate]

I dunno what kind of "concern" do we need to have?

If this was a contender I'd be real concerned. It's not...and both guys looked solid so far. Real NHL action will be different but they'll also get easy assignments and be sheltered. Sometimes they'll struggle I'm sure, but both guys look NHL ready so far so give them a shot. They can always be sent down later if necessary.

 

[will1066]

When Andersson took #28 the first former Ranger I thought of was Larmer.

Dom Moore for me

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

I just found out Tampa originally traded Tony D for the pick that became Libor Hajek. Would be rad to see them as a pair one day.

 

[28]

In many ways, it's too bad we only had Larmer for the last two years of his career and with a bad back.

I think he would've been one of the most loved players in franchise history had he spent his prime here.

I remember his first game back in Chicago as a Ranger; he was awarded a penalty shot, skated in and blasted a slapshot for a goal (vs Belfour I think). I believe he had two or three points in that game.

 

[bl02]

Couple of quick observations. seems like DeAngelo is gonna get paired with Staal. The way he has been playing lately I'm actually thinking he might be able to carry Staal on his back. Also means Staal stays in the top 4 unfortunately, but whatever at this point. Hopefully this is the last year of him being in the top 4 or even in the the top 6 D.

Also not a fan of Kakko on the second pp unit. With that first unit featuring Panarin/Zibby the second unit is probably gonna get 20-30 seconds and be lucky to even set up shop in the offensive zone. Would have been nice to see Kakko be given a chance to use his creativity/passing and amazing edge work in the offensive zone on the pp.

 

[Hi ImHFNYR]

At a certain point (and yes, it's still early in his career) it has to manifest in games or it doesn't matter.

That certain point is a year or two from now which is why you're running into so much resistance being so adamant about his sucktitude right now

You're talking about "certain points" when we're literally a year or more away from that point.

That's why people maybe aren't showing you a lot of patience and they're "being mean" on this one

Well there you go

As for the Staal stuff. My only thing is that we're supposed to lose and the kids aren't ready. It doesn't matter. let Staal get eaten alive for another year.

 

[Good Intentions]

Everyone’s ‘hot take’ is a stolen soup from 15 other opinions.

Everyone’s ‘bold forecasts’ are the most conservative captain obvious calls.

Thursday can’t come soon enough.

 

[Barnaby]

If Howden had this ability to learn more effectively, maybe we would see some improvement?

At a certain point (and yes, it's still early in his career) it has to manifest in games or it doesn't matter.

Ok, how about we try waiting for at least one regular season game then? Lias looked putrid the last two years, but now seems like he might be turning a corner. Could it be the same with Howden?

Rosters are fluid and lineup changes occur regularly. Why are some so bothered?

I don’t know if all moves were made to get the best current roster, or with an eye on giving certain players different development tracks for the intention of better long term success. I don’t know if they love Howden, or think Chytil would benefit greatly from playing all situations in the AHL? Which was a greater factor? I don’t know, but let’s see how things play out a bit first..

 

[Machinehead]

Everyone’s ‘hot take’ is a stolen soup from 15 other opinions.

Everyone’s ‘bold forecasts’ are the most conservative captain obvious calls.

Thursday can’t come soon enough.

So we can get back to arguing right after the game is over?