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Is that why he brought in Kane and Tarasenkp against Gallant's wishes ? Gallant let him know about those moves before the playoffs started over dinner when Gallant informed him they would not stand up for one another.....and he was absolutely right ...Gallant that is . They should have kept him and deleted a few guys and we might have had a Cup by now . Remember...Turk took an expansion club without big star talent into the Cup Finals.....
I think Dolan had more to do with Kane than anything. Big name, american player, wanted to come to the Rangers. How can Dolan say no?
 
What about this

Lafreniere + Schneider for Byram + Peterka + 2nd

Panarin for Zegras + Mintyukov + 2nd ‘25 + 2nd ‘26

Kreider + Jones for Crouse ($1m retained) + 2nd ‘25 + 2nd ‘26

Cuylle-Miller-Zibanejad
Zegras-Trochek-Peterka
Crouse-Parsinnen-Berard/Othmann
Edstrom-Carrick-Rempe

Byram-Fox
Miller-Borgen
Mintyukov-Soucy
Vaak

I don’t really have issue with it, it’s just a lot of movement for one off-season. I wasn’t thinking my moves set us up and fix us all in one off-season, just that it would be a satisfying degree or realistic change that moved us a few yards in the right direction. I’ve always been okay with Crouse and I like Minty. Zegras definitely should rebound to at least be better than he has been, but I’ve never been overly interested.
 
Regarding Kane, is Dolan really making many Rangers decisions? Always seemed like he has been visible attending Knicks games for 25 years but how many Rangers games does he attend?
 
Regarding Kane, is Dolan really making many Rangers decisions? Always seemed like he has been visible attending Knicks games for 25 years but how many Rangers games does he attend?
Dolan signs off on literally every ranger and Knicks move. Even when we consider him hands off, it’s because he trusts drury and just signs off, but in the Kane one, he pushed for it, and drury pulled the trigger.
He doesn’t push for much but when he does the GM usually doesn’t really have much a choice.
 
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Dolan signs off on literally every ranger and Knicks move. Even when we consider him hands off, it’s because he trusts drury and just signs off, but in the Kane one, he pushed for it, and drury pulled the trigger.
He doesn’t push for much but when he does the GM usually doesn’t really have much a choice.
Is there anything saying Dolan pushed for Kane or is it just internet rumor? I remember years ago Dolan was on FAN and said he was much more involved with the Knicks than with the Rangers. This was back in the Sator days.
 
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Is there anything saying Dolan pushed for Kane or is it just internet rumor? I remember years ago Dolan was on FAN and said he was much more involved with the Knicks than with the Rangers. This was back in the Sator days.
Even the most inept GM would not have hog tied his team the way Drury did in order to complete that deal.
 
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Even the most inept GM would not have hog tied his team the way Drury did in order to complete that deal.
Maybe so but I have learned not to automatically believe everything posted on HF so sometimes Id like to see some links. HF was the reason WWII started 😂
 
Is there anything saying Dolan pushed for Kane or is it just internet rumor? I remember years ago Dolan was on FAN and said he was much more involved with the Knicks than with the Rangers. This was back in the Sator days.
AFAIK nothing official, however Drury seemed to have completed the roster already, and he worked on things very early. There was no reason for him to make the move, especially as it pushed the roster around, as it was really clicking. It also didnt fit Drury's MO in general. It was so out of profile that it seemed far more likely to be Dolan.
 
AFAIK nothing official, however Drury seemed to have completed the roster already, and he worked on things very early. There was no reason for him to make the move, especially as it pushed the roster around, as it was really clicking. It also didnt fit Drury's MO in general. It was so out of profile that it seemed far more likely to be Dolan.
Thanks for clearing that up. Without any backing I will look at it as opinion. Its hard to know what is fact and what isn't on HF. Like is Zibs really even a vegetarian? If I remember correctly the Kane to NY rumors were out there a long time.
 
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I literally don’t believe a single thing Olberman says. Ever.
Keith Olbermann has been one of biggest douchebag losers to cover sports in the last half century.

He is a terrible person, has no credibility, and should not be used as a reference for anything. You'd be just as well off posting Alex Jones.

Olbermann has been railing on Rangers fans for decades saying about what crap fans they are. Just an old asshole.

McDonagh played through a broken foot in 2015 through his own volition and under approval by the doctors. Olbermann decided to ridicule a playing hurt captain. Great character reference this guy is.

“And until he missed practice on the morning of Game 7, nobody even had a clue that it was any worse than ‘he suddenly stunk and was playing so badly he should have been benched,’’ Olbermann says. “McDonagh was playing through it, getting it iced or shot up with painkillers or otherwise metaphorically frozen and not revealing it publicly in part because every hockey player thinks he’s Bobby damned Baun.”
Olbermann goes on to describe it as “Bobby damned Baun syndrome.”
Baun, as most Canadian hockey fans would know — and certainly all Leafs fans — was the player who scored the winning goal in Game 6 of the 1964 Stanley Cup final while playing on a broken leg.
Playing hurt might be noble, Olbermann argues, but it is not always practical: “Congrats on your grit, which helped cost your team a trip to the Stanley Cup final.”


Keith Olbermann critical of New York Rangers playing injured during playoffs: 'Congrats on your grit, which helped cost your team' | National Post

Olbermann got suspended multiple times by NBC for violating political donation rules and regulations. He was then unceremoniously fired in 2011 while being one the most watched hosts on all of their programming. Dude is a clown.


When the Penn State scandal came out 10 years ago, 2015, there were obviously many many people that wanted to do nothing but show support for the victims and make an effort to change. Olbermann took time out of his day to get into fights with those that worked to raise 13 million for child care and cancer research. He was subsequently suspended by ESPN.

Last month the "Olbermann" host went on a tirade against the settlement between Penn State and the NCAA that restored the football wins that had been stripped from the program in the aftermath of the Jerry Sandusky child molestation scandal.
Possibly in response to those remarks, a woman tweeted Olbermann a link to a news story about a Penn State charity event that raised more than $13 million to help support children and their families fighting pediatric cancer.
She also included the first two words of the school's signature chant, "We are Penn State!" To which Olbermann replied in a tweet, "....Pitiful."
Many Penn State supporters took Olbermann's response to mean he was calling the charitable effort pitiful. He responded directly to those people, calling them names and hurling insults at them while claiming that his tweet reflected his belief that Penn State students are the ones who are pitiful.


He is a piece of shit and knows nothing, provides zero insight, and deserves an early grave.

Sorry for the rant, but this guy is one of the few modern media personalities that I legitimately hate.
 
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I don’t really have issue with it, it’s just a lot of movement for one off-season. I wasn’t thinking my moves set us up and fix us all in one off-season, just that it would be a satisfying degree or realistic change that moved us a few yards in the right direction. I’ve always been okay with Crouse and I like Minty. Zegras definitely should rebound to at least be better than he has been, but I’ve never been overly interested.

I’m not in love with Zegras personally, honestly. He needs to take a pretty big jump forward to be more then a perimeter player at the NHL level, but he’s a guy I’d take a flyer on for a few years and see how it progresses. He’s similar to the way I viewed Brassard when he was acquired. Probably similar cap percentage too honestly now that I’m thinking about it.
 
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I’m not in love with Zegras personally, honestly. He needs to take a pretty big jump forward to be more then a perimeter player at the NHL level, but he’s a guy I’d take a flyer on for a few years and see how it progresses. He’s similar to the way I viewed Brassard when he was acquired. Probably similar cap percentage too honestly now that I’m thinking about it.

Brass had a bit of grit that I don’t see in Zegras. I think one of the worst things that happened to Zegras’ development was being a sideshow at the all-star game and an NHL cover athlete and just getting abundantly hyped to the point of being a household name before ever achieving anything or even really learning to be an NHL player.
 
Thanks for clearing that up. Without any backing I will look at it as opinion. Its hard to know what is fact and what isn't on HF. Like is Zibs really even a vegetarian? If I remember correctly the Kane to NY rumors were out there a long time.
As ID pointed out, there wasn't a public directive. However, the sequence of moves he made to get the cap space were out of the ordinary. I can't think of one GM that had their team play a man short on more than one occasion just to accrue space. That alone convinced me Dolan was the impetus for the deal. IMO, that deal crippled us for the rest of the season.
 
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Brass had a bit of grit that I don’t see in Zegras. I think one of the worst things that happened to Zegras’ development was being a sideshow at the all-star game and an NHL cover athlete and just getting abundantly hyped to the point of being a household name before ever achieving anything or even really learning to be an NHL player.

Don’t disagree there on the latter for sure. For the spot the team is in, he’s an intriguing piece to see how he developed in another environment
 
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I mean good on the woman for making something good out of a shitty situation but Penn State Football should no longer be a thing.
I just remember that part so vividly, I legitimately thought it would come out Olberman has dementia shortly after. Turns out he just has terrible person disorder, like Lenny Dykstra.
 
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