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Oscar Lindberg said:
A Rempe offersheet would be hilarious. If it’s anything over like 1.5 million just take the compensation and wish him a nice career


Yes, but he could be terrible here. Just think about it!
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The only reason we would even consider matching something like that is "marketing". So yes 100% agree, let him walk if they try.
 
bernmeister said:
I admit it could break as you describe
and what I am proposing requires major balls on both sides, so I can see your no.

But that said, I disagree w/what you said, in manner of degree.

"They might need a RD but they don't need Schneider specifically."
True, but Schneid is undervalued here imo and checks off many boxes. IF they don't go this way and add quality D immed in Schned and also signif, add around the corner Emery, there is an opportunity cost to them for that.
Just like there is an opportunity cost to paying my price here.

They need AMPLE D solutions, incl IMMEDIATE RD, and those guys have to be not nec elite but higher end.
How many guys like that are out there AND ARE AVAILABLE?
And if available at all, the cost is gonna be crazy high.
So pick yr poison, LA:
- keep By, get squeezed on Gav to pt you can't match, and risk total bust b'c no fallback when Doughty is fully cooked this season
- or take a step back on By + to lesser extent Hel., but get all yr D resolved, lean a bit more Kopitar, look at Nelson, Granlund etc as ufa stopgaps
- do an alternate to what I prop -- but can you get better terms?

"There are other options besides Schneider so if the price is Byfield to acquire a RD, they will 1000% balk"
It is not By for Schneid 1:1 and those options are not cost free.
Whether they should pay the By price should be based on best of multiple options
also, acknowledge, KEEPING BY has a price too!

"They will keep Byfield over Gavrikov."
They need ALL their D and gracefully jettison Doughty

"They can find a LD replacement over shipping Byfield to resolve."
Getting LD to replace Gav who shoots lefty but plays either side, is gonna likely result in a downgrade from Gav, and the better the replacement, logically the higher cost in trade paid to acquire. AND it does NOTHING to address K's disaster waiting to happen on RD

"They will have to exhaust like 50 different options before they consider it."
yeah, no, not so much in totality of circumstances.

I think some variant of this is attractive enuf for Ks to take the plunge
This would be more than a major wince for Rs, but adding By + Hel [to partner w/Eds + Remp] = dramatic step to resolving F issues
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Well, you’d be wrong. A soon to be 1C who is only 22 years old, played his first season at C full time last year and got better and better as the season went along. Plays a full 200’ game and plays on PP and PK, has developed his physical game to be a 1C.

No, you are definitely wrong. Regardless of how much Zib wants to live near Disneyland…
 
duhmetreE said:
He’s a great forechecker.

That line is usually spending time in the ozone cycling. He’s a part of that. I do not know wrist people are expecting from 4th liners. Rempe just needs to stop dropping the gloves
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I’m fine with Rempe the player honestly. He vastly improved this season and he’s a solid 4th liner who is actually quite difficult for other teams to contain. He needs to continue progressing but him and Edstrom together are a force.
 
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Laf's problem is that he has become way too much of a floater. He picks his spots. He frankly just isn't good enough when he gets his spots to do that.

The way we talk about Laf and his progression and his spurts of really good play reminds me of the way we talked about Kreider for literally 8+ years. "If he ever puts together a full season..."

Kreider eventually did and was one of the best goal scorers and play drivers in the entire NHL over a 3 year span. Then broke his body for it and now has run himself down. I don't know if Laf would ever realistically be able to get to that point, and I am not comparing their styles at all. But it is frustrating to hold and wait for a decade and keeping saying "man, one day he's gonna have a really good year and we can all go 'yeah finally'"
 
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Guitpik said:
Well, you’d be wrong. A soon to be 1C who is only 22 years old, played his first season at C full time last year and got better and better as the season went along. Plays a full 200’ game and plays on PP and PK, has developed his physical game to be a 1C.

No, you are definitely wrong. Regardless of how much Zib wants to live near Disneyland…
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Again, NOTHING you say here addresses that despite By = meritorious case to keep, THEY HAVE A MORE IMMEDIATE ISSUE WITH RD, replacing Doughty immediately

your silence cannot deny that regardless of how much you don't want to bring that up ->acknowledge
 
bernmeister said:
Again, NOTHING you say here addresses that despite By = meritorious case to keep, THEY HAVE A MORE IMMEDIATE ISSUE WITH RD, replacing Doughty immediately

your silence cannot deny that regardless of how much you don't want to bring that up ->acknowledge
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One of the best defensive teams in the league last year that was missing Doughty for most of it, does not have an IMMEDIATE ISSUE AT RD. You’re making shit up to support your weak narrative.

If they were to consider moving Byfield, what you’re proposing will be beat by most other teams that would in the market.

But, how often do teams trade a 22 year old 1C, never. Kopitar is on his last year, did you consider that your thought would leave the Kings without a 1C? No. Since C is the most coveted position, there is no way the Kings are moving Byfield.
 
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Alluckks said:
Laf's problem is that he has become way too much of a floater. He picks his spots. He frankly just isn't good enough when he gets his spots to do that.

The way we talk about Laf and his progression and his spurts of really good play reminds me of the way we talked about Kreider for literally 8+ years. "If he ever puts together a full season..."

Kreider eventually did and was one of the best goal scorers and play drivers in the entire NHL over a 3 year span. Then broke his body for it and now has run himself down. I don't know if Laf would ever realistically be able to get to that point, and I am not comparing their styles at all. But it is frustrating to hold and wait for a decade and keeping saying "man, one day he's gonna have a really good year and we can all go 'yeah finally'"
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With Laf it's just all the more frustrating due to draft position and he was considered pro ready, Kreider was always a project.
 
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One of the best defensive teams in the league last year that was missing Doughty for most of it, does not have an IMMEDIATE ISSUE AT RD. You’re making shit up to support your weak narrative.

If they were to consider moving Byfield, what you’re proposing will be beat by most other teams that would in the market.

But, how often do teams trade a 22 year old 1C, never. Kopitar is on his last year, did you consider that your thought would leave the Kings without a 1C? No. Since C is the most coveted position, there is no way the Kings are moving Byfield.
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Go scream on your own board. Let Bern have his fantasies.
 
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If the Stars surprise the world and let Jamie Benn go. Would it be wise to give him the Shanahan type of 2 year deal?? Doubt the Stars don't bring him back but anything is possible.
 
Guitpik said:
One of the best defensive teams in the league last year that was missing Doughty for most of it, does not have an IMMEDIATE ISSUE AT RD. You’re making shit up to support your weak narrative.

If they were to consider moving Byfield, what you’re proposing will be beat by most other teams that would in the market.

But, how often do teams trade a 22 year old 1C, never. Kopitar is on his last year, did you consider that your thought would leave the Kings without a 1C? No. Since C is the most coveted position, there is no way the Kings are moving Byfield.
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this refuses to address the aforestated reality of a terrif BUT EXTREMELY THIN D corp

you have 2 more seasons of ancient DD at 11 per, and Edmundson who is solid in other areas but already a bit of a pylon he is also long term

you are trying to keep Gav who = mo $$$
Spence + Clarke are rfas

you are mostly on thin ice there, ignore at yr peril
 
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RangersFan1994 said:
If the Stars surprise the world and let Jamie Benn go. Would it be wise to give him the Shanahan type of 2 year deal?? Doubt the Stars don't bring him back but anything is possible.
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Rangers have a cap issue. Even with trading Kreider and when they 1000000% sign Grzlyek for D, they will only have enough room to resign Cullye, Edstrom, Rempe, and Miller.

Unless Panarin or Mika go for futures, there's no room.
 
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