Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XX (WTF are we going to do this Off-Season edition)

[EdJovanovski]

Shit at first reading it I thought it was gonna say announces his retirement

 

[savebyrichter94]

He could have made a better hire than Laviolette.

Everyone and their f***ing mother knew how that one was going to go. The best part about his hire is that he went semi out side of the box with the hiring of his assistants, but that doesn't speak well at all to the guy who is calling the shots.

If a bunch of people here could have foreseen how this one would go, theres no reason why someone who is a GM in this league couldn't see it too. It was a lazy, "safe" hire because he didn't want to go with someone who didn't have a ton of experience which apparently, is a redeeming quality this time around.

Could have saved himself the trouble and just hired the guy with less experience last time.

I’m just trying to see it from his point of view for a minute and maybe Laviolette was his last life line to these guys, a veteran cup winning coach who could provide the structure they claimed they needed after the last guy was too hands off even though they claimed that’s what they wanted at the time and maybe the reason he’s open to a less experienced coach this time is that he’s pulling the plug on the guys he gave plenty of opportunities and money to so the makeup of the team will be different

I think he’s given them plenty of rope and they’ve consistently hung themselves with it and the second he got tough they played victim

 

[Pawnee Rangers]

I liked what I saw from Othmann and Berard. Another full off-season will be good for them. Edstrom and Rempe are easily 4th liners. What other young players are we concerned about?

Yes, they seem to have a bunch of viable bottom 6 players and the makings of a great 4th line. I just don't see a lot of top end talent on the roster next or in the system. Optimistically, they're probably 3-4 years from having a competitive core with no 1C anywhere in sight.

 

[NYR Viper]

That's the concern.

I guess, but if they fill their entire bottom-6 with good, cost controlled players who add to the culture that's a good thing.

 

[Machinehead]

I guess, but if they fill their entire bottom-6 with good, cost controlled players who add to the culture that's a good thing.

Nobody is saying that's not a good thing but you need to score goals too.

The vets get away with murder because nobody is pushing them out of those spots.

And nobody is replacing them in a few years when they're decrepit.

 

[tlk]

One thing Larry said during the podcast that shocked me was that he thought the rangers are not nearly as talented as the perception is. Didn’t expect that from him.

He also said that Othmann should play top 6 minutes game in game out.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

If Drury had any sense he’d be trading Othmann for a similar aged defensemen this summer

But he won’t

 

[Tob]

Because he did such a great job the last time he repped sweden hes gonna do it again

 

[tlk]

If Drury had any sense he’d be trading Othmann for a similar aged defensemen this summer

But he won’t

Othmann and KAM for Zeev!!!

 

[Machinehead]

Holy shit the Zibanejad discourse in here all the f***ing time.

"OMG guys did you hear he's playing for Sweden!"

 

[bhamill]

And we’ve since learnt that the only reason nemeth was so expensive was we wanted the prospect that in that trade who we lost to waivers but Edmonton fans are saying he looks good.

geez. I can't even remember who that was...

 

[IDvsEGO]

geez. I can't even remember who that was...

I think emberson?

 

[Kocur Dill]

Eh, I think a lot of people read into Zibanejad's comments and got right back on the "this team will be great when they get rid of a couple of guys who don't care" horse.

That's very much a thing on here.

For the record. Id prefer we grind up the horse. Sell the hooves for glue. This horse has been gelded. Its racing days are over.

 

[Homelander]

 

[Homelander]

I still can't believe we're bringing back this doofus, let alone extending him.


Still in the denial stage of grief...

 

[bhamill]

I see most of them as botom-6 guys though. Cuylle has exceeded those expectations

Yeah, well that's the thing. If you have a dozen guys who look like they may pan out as bottom six, Six may not make it, but one will probably OVER achieve. I look at our current pool that we catagorize that way, Othmann, Berard, Edstrom, Rempe and the guys in Hartford and below, in that light. Half will probably top out as AHL, but one or two may surprise us. Like Cuylle did. Othmann becoming a 2nd liner would shock me ZERO.
Even if not, being able to capably fill your bottom six in house makes it WAY easier to concentrate on fixing your top six. Gabe and Laf are prob top six for 10 years. JT for at least 3 or 4. Troch can slide down to 3C as he ages. So we need to upgrade 3 top six spots pretty soon. Pan is likely gone after the coming season if not before, Mika may not be top six quality going forward, and I'm afraid Kreider is already bottom six quality.
In my way of thinking we should trade some bottom six talents for draft picks or packaged to get what we need. They are assets that teams WILL pay for. As evidenced by our OWN team trading for guys like Goodrow. Of course it will help if we WIN something because that experience is part of what teams want.

 

[bhamill]

I think emberson?

Thanks, bud.

 

[Homelander]

MOAR UNFETTERED POWR 4 DRRY

 

[bhamill]

The difference is they went to McDonagh and informed him that they wanted to free up his cap. This was in their offseason, and they gave him a chance to waive and be sent somewhere else, and even if he didn't want to waive, they were going to free up his cap space. Using the we're going to have to do what we have to do approach, McDonagh decided to just waive.

Drury put Goodrow on waivers and apparently didn't tell Goodrow until right before it happen. At least that's what we've heard. According to Goodrow, he wasn't approached by management to help facilitate a trade and waive. Saying that Goodrow should have negotiated a NMC doesn't change it from being a slimey move, even if Drury was able to utilize the waiver rule. I'm sure there's more of a middle area here, but the reaction from the players, whether they should get over it or not, seem to be that Drury didn't handle that situation well. And that's all we really know.

Hahaha. Tampa went to McDonagh and told him if he didn't waive his clause they would put him on waivers and he'd end up on the worst team in the league... THAT is a threat and actually does circumvent the spirit of the NTC, unlike what that ogre Drury did...
I mean, you are welcome to have your opinion on Drury of course, but you have a clear double standard when you are painting TBL in a more positive light, when their tact was actually WORSE.

 

[bhamill]

What’s the summary of this for those of us without a subscription?

"Wah."

 

[bhamill]

Anyone for Jessica Campbell as head coach?

Rangers, Chris Drury have chance to embrace NHL’s new-school in coaching search

The Rangers’ field this time will not be limited to men who have been the head coach of multiple NHL teams. It might even mean that the field might not be limited to men.

nypost.com

I don't know anything about her, honestly.

 

[Tawnos]

Hahaha. Tampa went to McDonagh and told him if he didn't waive his clause they would put him on waivers and he'd end up on the worst team in the league... THAT is a threat and actually does circumvent the spirit of the NTC, unlike what that ogre Drury did...
I mean, you are welcome to have your opinion on Drury of course, but you have a clear double standard when you are painting TBL in a more positive light, when their tact was actually WORSE.

Tampa gave McDonagh and his agent permission to find a team for the Lightning to trade him to. There's no double standard here. BriseBois treated McDonagh with the utmost respect. Drury treated Goodrow like a game piece.

 

[Mike in Houston]

I don't know anything about her, honestly.

She's been coaching at various levels since 2017.

 

[will1066]

I’m not a fan of everything Drury has done but if anyone has a right to be pissed off isn’t it him? It’s not like he’s deciding for the hell of it to fire coaches, it certainly doesn’t do his image any favors to do so, the reason he has to fire another coach is because the players keep deciding to blame everyone but themselves when things don’t go well, if I was Drury I’d be sick of the Goldilocks bullshit, this coach is too hard, this coach is too soft, there is no just right for these guys

Drury has also given some of these guys some very nice contracts and while they can say they’ve earned them they’ve also made him look like an idiot by rewarding him with whatever this bullshit is, maybe the guy is just happy to be the villain at this point idk

Well said

 

[EpicDing]

Anyone for Jessica Campbell as head coach?

Rangers, Chris Drury have chance to embrace NHL’s new-school in coaching search

The Rangers’ field this time will not be limited to men who have been the head coach of multiple NHL teams. It might even mean that the field might not be limited to men.

nypost.com

If she's the best candidate, why not?