Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XX (WTF are we going to do this Off-Season edition)

[Levitate]

I don't think Tocchet is a particularly good coach and wouldn't say that it would be a good hire

 

[Machinehead]

I don't think Tocchet is a particularly good coach and wouldn't say that it would be a good hire

Tocchet is just another babysitter. He'll set a vibe and they might get a boost initially, and then they'll just tune him out. He's not bringing anything we haven't seen before.

Tbh, you're gonna be hard pressed to find a coach who's not that.

 

[UnSandvich]

Tocchet is just another babysitter. He'll set a vibe and they might get a boost initially, and then they'll just tune him out. He's not bringing anything we haven't seen before.

Tbh, you're gonna be hard pressed to find a coach who's not that.

It needs to be a combination of moving vets out and bringing in a new coach for the latter to have any significant impact.

 

[Cmox]

I like Laff's comments. He actually took responsibility.

 

[Irishguy42]

Tbh, you're gonna be hard pressed to find a coach who's not that.

Silverfish was right: coaches have minimal to no impact in the NHL in a large sample size.

 

[EdJovanovski]

Tocchet is just another babysitter. He'll set a vibe and they might get a boost initially, and then they'll just tune him out. He's not bringing anything we haven't seen before.

Tbh, you're gonna be hard pressed to find a coach who's not that.

I don't know about that, he publicly called out Pettersson multiple times. He is a hard ass and I don't think he just accepts being tuned out like a Laviolette would, he'd hold their feet to the fire.
Edit: He also has his teams play a much more up tempo game and is less of a dinosaur than Lavi. I think Tocchet is the best of both worlds

 

[McRanger92]

Tocchet is just another babysitter. He'll set a vibe and they might get a boost initially, and then they'll just tune him out. He's not bringing anything we haven't seen before.

Tbh, you're gonna be hard pressed to find a coach who's not that.

It’s why moving out the vets matters. They’ve had 3 coaches (4 in Mika/Kreider’s case) where they inevitably backslid to an unsustainable brand of hockey. As @GoAwayPanarin put it, they don’t need to trim the branches, they need a new tree. Ultimately coaches aren’t much more than cheerleaders and babysitters for any team. Would Bednar/Cooper have the success they’ve had without MacKinnon and Kucherov? I doubt it greatly.

 

[LOFIN]

Tocchet has his issues when it comes to the offensive side of the game. I haven't watched the Canucks, but happen to listen to a bunch of Vancouver media, and while the majority of people like Tocchet and want him back, there is also some valid criticism to his coaching.

I don't really care who the coach is, because there are bigger issues with this team other than whoever is standing behind the bench. Tocchet provides good soundbites at least so there's that.

 

[EdJovanovski]

Tocchet has his issues when it comes to the offensive side of the game. I haven't watched the Canucks, but happen to listen to a bunch of Vancouver media, and while the majority of people like Tocchet and want him back, there is also some valid criticism to his coaching.

I don't really care who the coach is, because there are bigger issues with this team other than whoever is standing behind the bench. Tocchet provides good soundbites at least so there's that.

I think it's much more a personnel issue than a coaching one in the Canucks case

 

[LOFIN]

I think it's much more a personnel issue than a coaching one in the Canucks case

Something, that we don't have here at Rangerland?

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

It’s why moving out the vets matters. They’ve had 3 coaches (4 in Mika/Kreider’s case) where they inevitably backslid to an unsustainable brand of hockey. As @GoAwayPanarin put it, they don’t need to trim the branches, they need a new tree. Ultimately coaches aren’t much more than cheerleaders and babysitters for any team. Would Bednar/Cooper have the success they’ve had without MacKinnon and Kucherov? I doubt it greatly.

Fair for Cooper but Bednar is a dolt.

 

[rangers1314]

Brian Boyle absolutely tee’d off on Mika on “up in the blue seats” today.

 

[NickyFotiu]

Pretty much what Laf said. A couple of them said they were disappointed with their play/seasons, no? Of course not Pan, Mika or Kreider... you know the veterans, the example setters.
Kandre had a weird response, like he was disappointed with his season but it was due to him not just mysteriously "being better." Not to pile on the kid but he seems a bit of a head case.

Hopefully Laf follows through. He is a huge key to this teams future. I'm still optimistic but its time he shows it on the ice next season.

I honestly do not know what to make of KAM. I have defended him because he has all the physical skills but also had so many unforced errors.

 

[NickyFotiu]

Brian Boyle absolutely tee’d off on Mika on “up in the blue seats” today.

What did he say? Summary?

 

[rangers1314]

What did he say? Summary?

Basically shut up about what the GM is going to do and play center and score goals.

Go listen. It’s within the first 10.

LB said it was the most miserable team he’s ever covered.

 

[Machinehead]

I don't know about that, he publicly called out Pettersson multiple times. He is a hard ass and I don't think he just accepts being tuned out like a Laviolette would, he'd hold their feet to the fire.
Edit: He also has his teams play a much more up tempo game and is less of a dinosaur than Lavi. I think Tocchet is the best of both worlds

Yeah, it really worked out, it's not like the Canucks locker room disintegrated and the team missed the playoffs after being a home seed last year or anything.

 

[rangers1314]

Brian Boyle absolutely tee’d off on Mika on “up in the blue seats” today.

Basically shut up about what the GM is going to do and play center and score goals.

Go listen. It’s within the first 10.

LB said it was the most miserable team he’s ever covered.

This has been a good listen.

LB and BB can’t hide their loathing of this group.

Say they should have fired PL in Feb and let Peca run with it and see what he has

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I don’t know how anyone can look at Tochett and act like Vancouver didn’t basically go through the same thing the Rangers did.

 

[Clark Kellogg]

End of Season Episode:

 

[RangerBoy]

Does Ryan Martin join the Islanders as their GM? Holland would be the president of hockey operations.

 

[Levitate]

I mean, Boyle has been there, he played a long career on a lot of teams and had success in his role and with those teams.

If he's calling this out as bullshit then maybe we can stop excusing it as some kind of normal thing for players to do

 

[rangers1314]

Boyle says Halpern should be a target.

Muse too.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Too busy with personal matters to show up for exit meetings, but evidently not too busy to play golf lol

 

[haohmaru]

Brian Boyle absolutely tee’d off on Mika on “up in the blue seats” today.

He tee'd off on the whole team, honestly. Deservedly so. "Soft".

 

[Mandar]

Pull the trigger on Panarin.
Give KAM 7x8.

/s

GTFO.

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