Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XX (WTF are we going to do this Off-Season edition)

[Dfence033]

I can’t see the Rangers walking from Cuylle for compensation in the 1st+3rd range. Given we know the cap is going to explode the next few seasons, they may already be entertaining a deal for him north of $7M per without an offer sheet. Unless they’ve changed it and I missed it, AAV for offer sheets is calculated as total value / 5 years. So unless a team like Chicago offered 5 years, $9.1M per, I can’t see the Rangers letting him walk for anything short of a 1+2+3 even. And as much as I like Cuylle, I’m taking Chicago’s 2026 first, second, and third round picks for him if that’s the contract he commands. Talk about having a shot at McKenna…

As far as K’Andre, he is near certain getting more than 5 years at $4.6M per (2nd round pick comp that was suggested). If he’d sign that deal, I’d have him signed already as a Ranger. I know he gets a lot of vitriol here, but that’s a steal of a contract for even a #4 these days, and I still think he can be more than that with a competent system to play in.

And no shot anyone is giving Rempe or Edstrom a deal north of $4M per right now. I like Edstrom, but he’s 24, has played 62 NHL games and has 11 points. No team is going to offer sheet him anything he wouldn’t get from the Rangers, and if they did, they’d be handicapping themselves more than hurting the Rangers. Same for Rempe. As much as he has a cult following, he’s soon 23 with 10 points in 59 NHL games. Like both players and hope they are back, but if a team is going to offer sheet $4.6M+ over 5+ years for either, you take the 2nd round pick.

 

[nsvoyageurs]

If Sullivan lands here then we already know the next move.....the Rangers trade the 26 pick for Crosby in a Messier like package .....it is so the Ranger franchise . We get 2 years of Crosby . They get 16 years of a promising young stalwart at center. Yup...almost a done deal LOL.....just gotta add in the other pieces .

Yuck. Sullivan is worse than Laviolette in terms on playing younger players. All of the players under age 25 should ask for a trade if Sullivan becomes the next head coach.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

I’m here to tell you that Will Cuylle is not getting a 7 million contract from anyone lol

 

[UnSandvich]

Being 4th in a league with like 100 players compared to todays competition means jack shit.

here we go again with this guy

 

[Mike in Houston]

Geesh...when you look at that it sure makes next season look very hard . The Rangers have a lot of work to do. The OS factor is indeed a real concern ! If Panarin goes....I tend to think Kreider is back depending on his back or he just retires . Trocheck might be our 3rd line C next year and Mika plays 2nd line C . We need a RW Is Perreault ready to play on the opposite wing ? Much work for us this Summer.....hopefully Perreault-Othmann-Rempe-Edstrom-Berard -Lafreniere spend a lot of time in the weight room . If a few worked on their skating as well....that would not hurt either .

Would you forfeit the money that he's due to make in the last two years of his contract?

 

[Dfence033]

Since it keeps coming up about coaches “hating younger players, I’ll ask something I’ve asked previously: Which coach in the NHL this season who was coaching with expectations of winning games played unestablished “kids” over proven vets?

Every season I hear about every NHL coach on a team with winning aspirations “refuses to play the kids.” Of course they do! Their mandate isn’t to make some 19-23 year olds look good unless those “kids” unequivocally earn their spots. The most recent example I was given was DeBoer in Dallas. Because if whom? Robertson who was nearly PPG in the NHL at 21 years old? Wyatt Johnston who has seasons of 41, 65, and 71 points in the NHL at 19, 20, and 21 years old? Harley who has put up back to back seasons of 47 and 50 points as a D at 22 and 23 years old?

Why did he play them? Because they earned it with their play. They gave DeBoer (who by the way had a reputation for “not playing the kids” nearly everywhere he went before Dallas) no choice but to put them in the lineup.

What Rangers’ prospect or kid has performed anything at all like those three and wasn’t given multiple chances to play? Kakko, Laf, and Chytil all were given multiple opportunities in several spots up and down the lineup, including long stretches playing with the best players on the Rangers. They didn’t do enough with it to be played more. Laf was close last season, Chytil couldn’t stay healthy and in the lineup, and Kakko - despite now getting nearly 4 full minutes more ice time on the powerplay on his new team - still looks to cap out as a 50 point player. And that’s with his 13 points in 14 games to start his career in Seattle. So, who?

 

[Mike in Houston]

 

[RangerBoy]

Staple wrote the Rangers could hire a non-recycled head coach. Some people wonder about Drury's future because the Rangers took a big step back this season.

It has seemed like a foregone conclusion for weeks now that Peter Laviolette would take the fall for the Rangers’ on-ice failures. That would mean a fourth coach in four years, after David Quinn, Gerard Gallant and now Laviolette.

This search might not be so simple. The Rangers could upend tradition and go with a first-time coach — among the 10 coaches who have been hired under James Dolan’s ownership, only Quinn, hired out of Boston University, and Bryan Trottier, who lasted 54 games in 2002-03, had no NHL experience before being hired.

If the Rangers want an experienced coach, the list is short. John Tortorella, a Dolan favorite who coached the Rangers from 2008 to 2013, is available. Drury still would love to wrest Mike Sullivan away from the Pittsburgh Penguins, but that is a long shot. Joel Quenneville could be ready to return after a five-year NHL absence due to his handling of the Kyle Beach assault in Chicago, but the Panarin news might mean this isn’t the job for him. After that, it’s slim pickings.

There’s also the matter of who will be leading the search. Drury has been on the job for four years, and Dolan handpicked the former Rangers captain after firing team president John Davidson and GM Jeff Gorton, who just guided the Montreal Canadiens back to the playoffs as VP of hockey operations. Drury wasn’t thought to be in trouble even after this disastrous season. But some around the organization are wondering whether Dolan is OK with the huge step back the Rangers took this season, almost entirely engineered by Drury; Thursday’s Panarin report can’t have helped matters.

I follow the Knicks a little bit. I remember watching a podcast on YouTube. Knicks Film School. Jon, Jeremy and Andrew. Fred Katz of the Athletic was on. He was saying Thibbs is under pressure to win more than one round this spring. Dolan wants to see progress.

The Rangers went the opposite direction.

 

[McRanger92]

My favorite time of year is when the WFAN hosts come out of the woodwork to act like they know anything about the Rangers. Morash, Monzo, Malusis. Didnt hear a word from them during the success of the last few years.

Not a defense of Drury, just a peeve of mine from the toxic NY sports radio hosts. Pulling the same shit encouraging Mets fans to boo Juan Soto after not even 3 weeks on the team. Its embarrassing to knowledgeable fans.

 

[leetch99]

Would you forfeit the money that he's due to make in the last two years of his contract?

I have no idea how it works if he retired . I assume if he does retire he would not get any contract money . But....I am not sure .

 

[Mike in Houston]

I have no idea how it works if he retired . I assume if he does retire he would not get any contract money . But....I am not sure .

He gets zero of what is his "base salary".

 

[LOFIN]

When is the locker room cleanout?

 

[Mike in Houston]

When is the locker room cleanout?

Monday.

 

[Graves97]

When is the locker room cleanout?

Prob Monday according to Laz.

 

[LOFIN]

Monday.

Too bad that we have to wait over the weekend. I know some teams do it right after the season ends.

I guess we'll see if Laviolette is still there to address the media. Hopefully not.

 

[toNYRico]

Serious question. When was the last time NYR brass were directly asked about this org's shady (I mean, failed) player development history, especially recently, and what was their response?

 

[Ruggs225]

If drury and lav are both fired, who would do the exit interview?

Also if Dolan plans to fire Drury and lav, who would he want to do the exit interview.

These are things that keep me awake.

Like if i know im going to fire the sniveling little asshat, do i really want him to do the exit interview?

Also, if Drury is doing the exit interviews and the players feel he is a problem, would they even be truthful in their interview?

Really curious how this all actually works

 

[Clark Kellogg]

KAM wont sign an offersheet for less than the 1st/3rd tier amount. He will likely be asking for 6-7 million on his next deal.

Wow, if that is the case then him and his agent are suffering from delusional confidence.
Goodbye K’Andrea. I wouldn’t be disappointed in a 1st and a 3rd and maybe the current or new GM can get an even more in a trade.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Wow, if that is the case then him and his agent are suffering from delusional confidence.
Goodbye K’Andrea. I wouldn’t be disappointed in a 1st and a 3rd and maybe the current or new GM can get an even more in a trade.

he’ll definitely get 6M.

 

[Kupo]

It's been confirmed that Drury's weekend will not be ruined despite the shit stained season he had.

 

[duhmetreE]

He’s friends with Dolan?

He will have free reign imo. Unless he disrespects Dolan in some manner, he’s here long term.

I just don’t see him going anywhere.

 

[duhmetreE]

JUST MATH. No speculation based on what ifs. Who will be or not be on the roster come opening day. These are the facts of known values. The NHL allows teams to go 10% over during the offseason. That brings the temporary cap to 105.05M
At season start cap is fixed at 95.5M

Signed

Artemi Panarin 11.64
Igor Shesterkin 11.50
Adam Fox 9.50
Mika Zibanejad 8.50
JT Miller 8.00
Alexis Lafreniere 7.45
Chris Kreider 6.00
Vincent Trocheck 5.63
Carson Soucy 3.25
Will Borgen 4.10
Braden Schneider 2.20
Johathan Quick 1.55
Urho Vaakaninen 1.55
Sam Carrick 1.00
Jonny Brodzinski .79
Total 82.66M

8 Forwards
5 Defensemen
2 Goalies

Projected 25/26 Cap Space 95.5M
12.84 Available Cap Space to sign or replace:
RFA’s
Will Cuyle
Adam Edstrom
Matt Rempe
K’Andrea Miller
Juuso Parssinen
Zac Jones

AHL/NHL options
Gabe Perreault .942
Brett Berard .868
Brennan Othmann .863
Jaroslav Chmelar .868
Dylan Roobroeck .850

Have to move Kreider and Soucy. Maybe Zibs will be open to a trade once Kreider is moved

What a horrible trade soucy was

 

[RangerBoy]

When is the locker room cleanout?

Monday

 

[McRanger92]

He’s friends with Dolan?

He will have free reign imo. Unless he disrespects Dolan in some manner, he’s here long term.

I just don’t see him going anywhere.

If Dolan "handpicked" Drury he isnt getting fired after a season where the roster coming in was clearly playoff caliber. People can blame the GM all they want, and he certainly bears some for not being more proactive, but every top player having their worst season as a Ranger at the same time was not exactly foreseeable.

 

[RangerBoy]