Soucy had actually been a good player before, Nemeth never was outside of being a chart merchant
Roster Building Thread : Part XVIII ( TDL is March 7th)
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Soucy had actually been a good player before, Nemeth never was outside of being a chart merchant
You trade a 3rd for an NHL body you like with 1 yr of term 100 times out of 100. It is *very* easy to get 3rd round picks if you want to. You could even trade a guy like Carson Soucy for one if you wanted.
It's time to leave Mika at center and finally trust a young player in the rw spot. Our center depth is awful this way and we're rolling out 2 4th lines because of it leaving our top 6 easier to defend.
Lafreniere Miller Berard
Panarin Zibanejad Cuylle
Kreider Trochek Othmann
Brodz Carrick rempe
It's not ideal but the third line actually has some chance of impacting the scoresheet this way.
Lafreniere Miller Berard
Panarin Zibanejad Cuylle
Kreider Trochek Othmann
Brodz Carrick rempe
It's not ideal but the third line actually has some chance of impacting the scoresheet this way.
I back up the Brinks truck for Mitch Marner to be honest. High motor high skill guy is exactly what this team needs. We have skill guys with shot motors or we have a couple guys who can skate (Berard, Brodz) with a very limited skill set. Marner is both and those guys just don't come around often. He's also your Panarin replacement for the next 8 years
Would hate investing the money into another winger for an org that lack centers.
If you can unload Panarin this summer then sign marner and a center. People keep acting like Bennett is going to just turn into a 4th liner in a year or two but he would be an ideal add here. Run Miller, Bennett, and Trocheck down the middle, get Panarin out of here and bring in marner. Would be a crazy shift. The defense would still need attention though.
I think the locker room now understands that there is an actual boss above them and they won't get everything that they want.
I remember at the start of the year everyone was "ok" with brodz as the 13th forward. Now the team relies on him as an everyday player getting 13 mins a game. What a season it's been.
Also the soucy trade in general just tells me they had something else they were working on that didn't get done at the deadline. They aren't going into next season with this defense as is
Also the soucy trade in general just tells me they had something else they were working on that didn't get done at the deadline. They aren't going into next season with this defense as is
Chytil. Ugh.
But, from the cold-hearted GM perspective, this is EXACTLY why the JT trade was a complete no-brainer. JT has value, and will have value, for years.
Chytil was one hit away from the reality that happened yesterday. We all knew it despite everyone liking the guy.
But, from the cold-hearted GM perspective, this is EXACTLY why the JT trade was a complete no-brainer. JT has value, and will have value, for years.
Chytil was one hit away from the reality that happened yesterday. We all knew it despite everyone liking the guy.
Are the Rangers making the playoffs? 72 points with 14 games remaining. The other teams have played one or two games less than the Rangers. After the Toronto game a few weeks ago, Steve Valiquette said the Rangers needed to go 17-6 in their last 23 games to make the playoffs. 96 points. The Rangers are 4-3-2 since the Toronto game. I was watching the Vegas-Detroit game on TNT yesterday. The panel were discussing the ECF playoff race. Rick Bowness felt the wild card teams needed 92-94 points this season. 91 points was the cutoff last season. Are the Rangers going 10-4 or 12-2 in their last 14 games? I was reading Brooks this morning. The Rangers are 9-9-2 in their last 20 games. Going .500 in their last 14 games is not enough. The Rangers haven't won three straight games since November. The Rangers are 9-7-2 since the JT Miller trade.
You never want to assume but it looks like Ottawa should make the playoffs. They are a crazy team. Lose five straight games. Win six straight games. Ottawa has two games in hand on the Rangers and have five more points. Ottawa is healthy. Cozens is a better player than Norris.
Big game tomorrow night. Ottawa at Montreal. Columbus hosts the Devils tonight.
You never want to assume but it looks like Ottawa should make the playoffs. They are a crazy team. Lose five straight games. Win six straight games. Ottawa has two games in hand on the Rangers and have five more points. Ottawa is healthy. Cozens is a better player than Norris.
Big game tomorrow night. Ottawa at Montreal. Columbus hosts the Devils tonight.
The Miller trade was acquiring another player in his 30's with major term remaining at big dollars. Are the Rangers really a better team? 9-7-2. It's the overall philosophy of acquiring Miller. The Rangers have allocated $8M for the next five seasons for another 32 year old player. Miller is a best player in the trade. That's not the point.
The Rangers are dumb. In 2017, the Rangers traded Stepan to Arizona and they didn't acquire a replacement. They never gave Miller a run at center. They didn't trust him defensively. One year later, Miller was traded. The Rangers had their replacement for Stepan already in house but they couldn't see it. The Rangers weren't a very good team in 17-18. They were trying to relive the glory days of 2014 and 2015. They played Hayes over Miller at center.
The Rangers now have Miller playing on RW or at center. It changes every game with Zibanejad. Just leave the guy at center please.
People get too fixated on the players. How do all of these players fit?
The Rangers PP is 7 for 46 with Miller. 26th overall since the Miller trade. Staple had that number. When Fox was out, people were blaming Jones for the PP woes. The PP sucked before Fox got hurt.
The Rangers need big changes.
The Rangers try these incremental moves. Miller is better than Chytil. What's the direction of the team?
I will hope that Filip can rebound again but even before he was moved there were 3/4 times this year he kind of got rocked with hits he didn't see coming. That's been the story of his hockey career and it may be that he'll need to walk away from hockey if only to minimize health risks that could hit him later on in life.
A lot of teams I think will have cap space to spend come to July but it doesn't look like there's going to be much of a market of players.
On JT he's got three years of term left. At $8 mil a year it's a good bang for the buck contract. If the cap is at $113.5 mil at the end of 28 as projected that's not that big of a chunk particularly if he's still a productive player which might will be. I guess it's how you look at it but three years doesn't that seem that long to me. He's basically a north south and physical player with skill. It's something that our team didn't have enough of. A good role model for Cuylle--maybe a good one for Othmann. We don't have a young C currently in our system that looks like he could fill a top 6 role and the upcoming June draft is not going to change that unless we're drafting in the top 3/4. The one forward prospect we do have with realizable 1st line talent is Perreault. I think the Rangers have a lot of good forward prospects but they're mostly bottom 6 with a a handful of middle 6 to second line potentials and Perreault with 1st line potential.
On JT he's got three years of term left. At $8 mil a year it's a good bang for the buck contract. If the cap is at $113.5 mil at the end of 28 as projected that's not that big of a chunk particularly if he's still a productive player which might will be. I guess it's how you look at it but three years doesn't that seem that long to me. He's basically a north south and physical player with skill. It's something that our team didn't have enough of. A good role model for Cuylle--maybe a good one for Othmann. We don't have a young C currently in our system that looks like he could fill a top 6 role and the upcoming June draft is not going to change that unless we're drafting in the top 3/4. The one forward prospect we do have with realizable 1st line talent is Perreault. I think the Rangers have a lot of good forward prospects but they're mostly bottom 6 with a a handful of middle 6 to second line potentials and Perreault with 1st line potential.
no, imo
we should sell high if we can, but if not then Meeka to RW. He is not good enuf for C.
NO
no overpay to huge $$$$ long term contracts esp when likely to be full nmc
I go the same way w/him as I was willing w/Zib
Go 2-2.5 over the high end of what he gets long term, BUT NO nmc, and short term 2-ish yrs only
not good enuf
fine
buh-bye
IF IF IF he would
Missed that story, sorry to hear
How bad is/is it projected to be?
Do we want to throw away a 6th and a guy like Robertson, who did not get a fair shake and will not here, for Chytil, then LTIR him for as long as it takes?
Maybe he sits a yr/+ but returns again?
I think it will go down to the last day but we might squeeze in . It depends a lot on the health of Fox . The team played tight last night but lost . Either way...make it or not...we are in the hunt and may as well cheer them on and talk about changes in the off season and at least Othmann and Berard are playing as well as Rempe and Jones . The big question right now is Perreault . Is he being signed this year ? Or...does he suit up for another year at college hockey and sign elsewhere ?
Trocheck wont do any better between Kreider and Othmann than either Carrick or Brodzinski. Panarin’s able to carry him this season. If you want to strengthen the 3rd line it should be Zibanejad - not that I advocate for this move because it will immediately create a RW hole in top-6. Whac-a-mole
Trade deadline is past you can't sell high on anyone. Mika hasn't had a great season but his legs are working now and looks a ton better. We aren't going anywhere with Carrick or Brodz as a 3c, absolutely no where.
He sucks. Can't defend at all.
You suggested moving out Miller, and I understand his flaws, but he's just a better player than Provorov.
Trochek can find the net from time to time on the 3rd, and Berard or Othmann are fine as a rw with Lafreniere and Miller. Rw isn't a crucial spot in the lineup like center is. Carrick is fine but we can't roll out 2 4th lines and expect to beat deeper teams, it's why we have a problem with playoff seeded teams. When you play good teams your top 6 hopefully cancels each other out or you win that battle, and your 3rd line needs to pick up the scoring. It's why deep teams win, not necessarily the best teams. I liked the Miller deal, but if we are moving a center to rw we just killed our 3rd line which has carried us a lot in playoffs.
I don't get the Miller hate at all, guy is our best defensive dman and it's not even close. He has glitches like every other dman, but people are so focused on the negative with him and I don't have a clue why.
I don't think the issue is that Bennett would immediately become bad. It's that it would be a lot of money to add middling speed and skill to the forward corps.
This forward group is not a bit of jam away from being good.
This forward group is not a bit of jam away from being good.
We have to stop paying top dollar for UFAs as though they will save our team. Outside of Messier, when has that ever worked? That was a different time. There was no salary cap, and Marner is no Messier.
It didn't work with Panarin. Why would it work with Marner? His teams have had zero success in the playoffs. He isn't a guy that is going to put the team on his back in the playoffs and lead them to a cup.
"Trade deadline is past you can't sell high on anyone."
Obv did not mean in immediate sense of this season.
If someone will take him and we can profit, we should go there and not be buying into win now/instant gratification.
We do NOT have the horses. We effed up staking Lias and Krav, and are very fortunate to have Cuylle nevertheless. Other than Vatrano, who was not extended, none of those rentals was smart or productive long term. To pay for this stupid overindulgence, we need to CAREFULLY deal premium vets for as much as we can get in $1+ over a $1 in value, in picks and prospects.
"Mika hasn't had a great season but his legs are working now and looks a ton better."
Fair enuf, but I'd rather repurpose if a suitor will give me enuf. Even if he does not command top $ by himself, in a package he could be enuf of a sweetener to land primo assets in return
"We aren't going anywhere with Carrick or Brodz as a 3c, absolutely no where."
On what basis? Disagree. Consider the eye test, imo it says otherwise.
They have both played very, very well and are great values. They both deserve more mins, and arguably higher line mins.
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