Speculation: Roster Building Thread : Part XVIII ( TDL is March 7th)

[The Crypto Guy]

Laf isn’t going anywhere.

Not concerned with that or his play this season. He’ll absolutely bounce back next season with the new atmosphere.

He is a part of the core moving forward and you are insane to think drury is going to trade him a few months after signing him long term.

 

[SA16]

The reason to trade Schneider is because he is not a good player who for some reason has a reputation that vastly exceeds his quality of play, while also playing what is a position of strength for the team. For four years and two coaches he's never even been able to hold a spot above the third pair. People just like him because he's physical, a former 1st, and isn't Trouba. Just look at all the talk last year about how great Miller-Schneider was and how terrible Miller-Trouba was except that Miller-Trouba actually had a better xG.

 

[McRanger92]

Schneider + Jones for Tuch and Jokiharju is a trade I was thinking about last night.

 

[Machinehead]

when we're not liking guys after 6 nhl games, we're essentially just deciding based on their faces and their names. good lookin kid, fabio.

it's not even close to a valid enough reason. it's the same as not liking fox because he's jewish or looks at the sky. There are opportunities to disagree, and then there's deciding not to like someone and filtering all information through that lens.

@LokiDog i'm not saying you're doing that btw. i get the frustration with laf. I just think this whole season has been shit, the coaching staff is mostly shit, and i likedvwhat he did in the playoffs last year. If we can get that guy again, i want him on this team.

You twist things.

We're talking about Lafreniere who we've watched for years.

I never said I dislike Othmann.

 

[bhamill]

It's bad because he's a bad player

21 points in 60 games with 232 hits and he stands up for his teammates… (yeah I know “15% shooting pctg”… he was over 9 last year, was 12 another year.) We have different definitions of “bad”…
I’m not saying NYR should try to get him with that AAV, but it’s certainly not a terrible contract. He has real value to CBJ and his cap hit will be a drop compared to the rising cap.

 

[McRanger92]

Fox Mafia!



Top 4 LHD is our biggest long term need. Eye on the ball Chris.

 

[Vitto79]

I’m doing my best not to be reactionary with all decision making, so I’m going to say that Laf, while he appears to be complacent and has been a literal zero (Vally’s words) for 12 games, is struggling. This is to me evidenced by the great leadership of Jonathan quick, who gets a shutout in his 800th game and turns around to point at Laf for the one good play to get him going. He had a great first half of the game yesterday then kind of faded out.

He’s gotta turn it around quick here. 20 games to go. It’s a balance between reactionary decision making and identifying long term issues with players. Guys we were killing in November have saved their seasons to an extent. He’s one who hasn’t

They really do need to fill that spot and ufa options like Provorov and Gavrikov Probably resign

See if Jones attracts interest , flip some picks . Kreider main piece

 

[SA16]

21 points in 60 games with 232 hits and he stands up for his teammates… (yeah I know “15% shooting pctg”… he was over 9 last year, was 12 another year.) We have different definitions of “bad”…
I’m not saying NYR should try to get him with that AAV, but it’s certainly not a terrible contract. He has real value to CBJ and his cap hit will be a drop compared to the rising cap.

I would define getting outscored by 22, 4, and 9 at 5v5 and outshot by 142, 69, 131 in his three full years as pretty bad.

 

[McRanger92]

I want to see Drury continue to be aggressive. The structure is returning to the team but we need another top 6 forward and a top 4 defenseman. Drury is slowly putting his mark on the team and dealing the guys he didn't acquire. I think K'Andre and Cuylle are the only younger guys I would wall off.

I kinda want some kind of seismic trade. Buffalo is the team imo. What could a package of Lafreniere and Schneider get for us?

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Not sure what the big rush is to find a LD for Fox, is he even playing again this season? We have all summer to find one when the prices are hopefully less.

But i am prepared to be super underwhelmed with whatever top 4 LD he finds if he rushes it over the next 36 hours.

 

[Ruggs225]

Im slowly liking this team more and more. They are getting more tenacious and aggressive.


in complete fantasy world i would love drury to talk to buffalo about Fox.

Fox for Power, 2025 first and 2026 first

Maybe a slight protection around 2026 like top 5 if it closed the deal. Hell would even throw in kreider to keep it unprotected.

U get a real big bodied lhd that is needed, and he has a ton of potential. A top 5 pick this year most likely that could plug another hole with youth.

And the real wildcard is the 2026 1st in a deep draft.

Buffalo would get an all star vet with term and youth. A dahlin -fox pairing would be great and it would show the fans they are committed to winning.

i like fox, but i will always be wary about his size come playoff time. The step down to power might not be massive in a year or two.

 

[McRanger92]

Im slowly liking this team more and more. They are getting more tenacious and aggressive.


in complete fantasy world i would love drury to talk to buffalo about Fox.

Fox for Power, 2025 first and 2026 first

Maybe a slight protection around 2026 like top 5 if it closed the deal. Hell would even throw in kreider to keep it unprotected.

U get a real big bodied lhd that is needed, and he has a ton of potential. A top 5 pick this year most likely that could plug another hole with youth.

And the real wildcard is the 2026 1st in a deep draft.

Buffalo would get an all star vet with term and youth. A dahlin -fox pairing would be great and it would show the fans they are committed to winning.

i like fox, but i will always be wary about his size come playoff time. The step down to power might not be massive in a year or two.

Dahlin for Fox, if anything. Im not interested in Power, who is a higher drafted K'Andre but worse defensively.

 

[Ruggs225]

Dahlin for Fox, if anything. Im not interested in Power, who is a higher drafted K'Andre but worse defensively.

They would be crazy to trade dahlin. But man would i love to have him.

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

Fox Mafia!



Top 4 LHD is our biggest long term need. Eye on the ball Chris.

Getting out of Trouba was the first step.

Moving Kakko was unnecessary but at least they got a low pairing RHD and signed him longterm to an OK hit.

Bringing in Miller was a no brainer considering the uncertainty of Chytil. Including the 1st is more palatable if they find a way into the playoffs or at least avoid the slide.

Removing Lindgren was addition by subtraction and he did very well bringing back not only the 2nd but players to help with the push.

Move Smith for a pick or two.

I agree that the focus now should be on finding a new partner for Fox, or at least identifying some targets with term who can eat minutes in the top 4 on the left side. If its Kreider involved to accomplish it thats fine. Just not sure where this player is and if the stars will align before the deadline. It cant be from a good team because they'll need that player in the playoffs.

Im beginning to think unless Drury gets his doors blown off with a deal they'll need to hope Kreider comes back before seasons end and proves he can still play so his value equalizes. This is all assuming he is using him as an asset in the deal for the LHD.

I could definitely see a separate deal featuring Kreider that is all about futures, but I think Drury is trying to thread the needle with an upgrade to the current club since the East is so wide open. Kreider is his biggest asset but his limited NTC list may be too preventative.

 

[McRanger92]

They would be crazy to trade dahlin. But man would i love to have him.

We'd be crazy to trade Fox for anything less than him.

 

[McRanger92]

Getting out of Trouba was the first step.

Moving Kakko was unnecessary but at least they got a low pairing RHD and signed him longterm to an OK hit.

Bringing in Miller was a no brainer considering the uncertainty of Chytil. Including the 1st is more palatable if they find a way into the playoffs or at least avoid the slide.

Removing Lindgren was addition by subtraction and he did very well bringing back not only the 2nd but players to help with the push.

Move Smith for a pick or two.

I agree that the focus now should be on finding a new partner for Fox, or at least identifying some targets with term who can eat minutes in the top 4 on the left side. If its Kreider involved to accomplish it thats fine. Just not sure where this player is and if the stars will align before the deadline. It cant be from a good team because they'll need that player in the playoffs.

Im beginning to think unless Drury gets his doors blown off with a deal they'll need to hope Kreider comes back before seasons end and proves he can still play so his value equalizes. This is assuming he is using him as an asset in the deal for the LHD. I could definitely see a separate deal featuring Kreider that is all about futures, but I think Drury is trying to thread the needle with an upgrade to the current club since the East is so wide open.

Mike Matheson from Montreal. his role is diminished with Hutson and Guhle (injured at the moment). friedman said on TNT pregame last night that the Habs are looking to make a hockey deal to stay in the race and give their young players experience. They just re-upped Evans. Reunite Kreider with Rammer and Gorton, and maybe he will waive to go to another O6 team if they arent on his list. Gorton also drafted plenty of our guys.

Kreider + Jones + 2nd rounder for Matheson + Joel Armia

Game 1 Lineup
Panarin-Trocheck-Lafreniere
Cullye-Miller-Othmann
Berard-Mika-Armia
Brodz-Carrick-Rempe

Matheson-Fox
Miller-Borgen
Vaakanainen-Schneider
de haan

 

[Cmox]

Trade Schneider now.

I'd keep him just to avoid the twitter takes, "No, he was my favorite player," then realize it's because he's good looking when looking through their feed.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I'd almost Drury not acquire his LD right now.

Not that it isn't a need (it's still this team's biggest one) but I don't like the options that have been publicly available. Ferraro or Soucy is just rebranding Lindgren.

I'd want no part of Power+this coaching staff. If they fire Lavi and some how get David Carle to agree to come here I'd be all over it though.

 

[McRanger92]

I'd almost Drury not acquire his LD right now.

Not that it isn't a need (it's still this team's biggest one) but I don't like the options that have been publicly available. Ferraro or Soucy is just rebranding Lindgren.

I'd want no part of Power+this coaching staff. If they fire Lavi and some how get David Carle to agree to come here I'd be all over it though.

Laviolette isnt getting fired, especially if we make the playoffs. If he was going to be shitcanned it wouldve happened months ago.

 

[cheech70]

 

[Daves a mess]

What did Brooksies 1am article this morning have to say?

 

[McRanger92]

I'd keep him just to avoid the twitter takes, "No, he was my favorite player," then realize it's because he's good looking when looking through their feed.

Twitter is having a tough enough time accepting the end of the Chris Kreider era.

More of this. maybe a fight on saturday too. Show us some pulse.

 

[DanielBrassard]

I'd almost Drury not acquire his LD right now.

Not that it isn't a need (it's still this team's biggest one) but I don't like the options that have been publicly available. Ferraro or Soucy is just rebranding Lindgren.

I'd want no part of Power+this coaching staff. If they fire Lavi and some how get David Carle to agree to come here I'd be all over it though.

If Drury trades Lindgren just to anchor Fox with taller Lindgren or Italian Lindgren he should be fired on the spot. Would be absolutely terrible. Hope there’s someone they have in mind that isn’t being rumored.

 

[McRanger92]

What did Brooksies 1am article this morning have to say?

Nothing too groundbreaking. reiterated the Rangers will trade Kreider if they get a good enough offer but it will most likely be draft picks and futures. Also Drury is looking for a left D.

I enjoyed this regarding the Rempe/Wilson jawing:

“He was yelling at me, ‘Don’t hit Ovie! Don’t do that to Ovie! Don’t hit Ovie!’ ” Rempe told The Post after the match had ended with a 3-2 overtime defeat to the Caps. “I told him I’d hit anyone I want.” Love this kid.

 

[MrAlmost]

Ryan Graves? Cheap to get and isn't horrible. I just don't see anyone that's available otherwise. Ottawa probably keeps their players. What incentive does Buffalo have to trade Byram? Does Dallas really trade Bischel? Is Walman even available or do the sharks want to start actually building? Ferraro sucks.