Speculation: Roster Building thread - Part XVII - (TDL is March 7th)

[McRanger92]

Seth Jones has 5 years left, but either way, why would the Rangers do that? Are we rebuilding? Brooks has lost his mind.

He's got nothing real to report so he's throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks. He bringing up Seth Jones does make me think he'll actually get traded somewhere but I'll be surprised if the Rangers are involved in anyway.

 

[jerseyjinx94]

I’m earmarking Vesey for like a 4th in 2027. Of the 3 pending UFA who should be dealt I wouldn’t care if they self rented him for depth bc he won’t return much. Lindgren and Smith need to be dealt asap

 

[NYR Viper]

Vesey deserves the opportunity to play somewhere and earn himself another contract. For nothing other than that, I'd trade him. He's been a good soldier in NY but it's time to give him another opporunity

 

[RangerBoy]

Seth Jones has 5 years left, but either way, why would the Rangers do that? Are we rebuilding? Brooks has lost his mind.

PuckPedia cut off the 5th year on their page. I counted 4. Too many years of retention. I am curious what that would cost. How many 2nd round picks?

 

[Machinehead]

all sports game are like this now you cant trade like 3 1sts in madden for a guy who ends up going for a 2nd

I tried trading for the 2OA pick in a recent mode and I was frankly way overpaying for it, and they still wouldn't take it.

And then the guy ends up being a 77 who's not good until he's 26 so the game is still stupid.

 

[McRanger92]

Vesey deserves the opportunity to play somewhere and earn himself another contract. For nothing other than that, I'd trade him. He's been a good soldier in NY but it's time to give him another opporunity

I look forward to Vesey's return as assistant GM in 5 years.

 

[MrAlmost]

When people say "This isn't NHL25" or "stick to the video games" i immediately know you haven't played the games. Trading is harder in the game then real life. Somehow, the game has found a system that overvalues everything. Players, picks, prospects, unless they are on your team. Then they are worth nothing.

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

Here’s the problem statement: We need to take a bunch of UFA dookey plus RFA dookey Jones plus Krieder and somehow turn that into a 3C and 2LD with term and picks (we need a 1LD in FA). It’s like that show that you start with a pen and have to turn it into $1000 in a week. Let’s go Drury you garlic balloon knot.

Not sure what’s available but I’d be happy with a signed Frederic and Soucy, something like that. Donato, Murphy, whatever.

Step 1 - collect dookey
Step 2 - ??
Step 3 - Profit

 

[Machinehead]

When people say "This isn't NHL25" or "stick to the video games" i immediately know you haven't played the games. Trading is harder in the game then real life. Somehow, the game has found a system that overvalues everything. Players, picks, prospects, unless they are on your team. Then they are worth nothing.

Yeah I remember people made fun of those games for the loopholes you could pull and then they way overcorrected to just being "f*** you" hard.

Free agency is another circus. Guy puts up 55 points and gets multiple offers for $12m+.

I understand people want to be challenged, but ultimately those types of things are an exercise in fantasy, and I liked it better when they were fun.

The only way to get any good value now is to cheat by creating players.

 

[GAGLine]

PuckPedia cut off the 5th year on their page. I counted 4. Too many years of retention. I am curious what that would cost. How many 2nd round picks?

It cost us 2 2nds to dump 2 years of Nemeth @2.5 mil. 5 years @2.375 mil would have to be something significant, though with the cap going up, the cost of retaining will likely go down.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I tried trading for the 2OA pick in a recent mode and I was frankly way overpaying for it, and they still wouldn't take it.

And then the guy ends up being a 77 who's not good until he's 26 so the game is still stupid.

Did mas become a game developer?

 

[bernmeister]

I’m earmarking Vesey for like a 4th in 2027. Of the 3 pending UFA who should be dealt I wouldn’t care if they self rented him for depth bc he won’t return much. Lindgren and Smith need to be dealt asap

More like a 6th, possibly a 5th if we're lucky

that is straight up
I could see him + a 3rd for a better 3rd, for example

 

[kovazub94]

Seth Jones has 5 years left, but either way, why would the Rangers do that? Are we rebuilding? Brooks has lost his mind.

Put it in the Lafreniere for Zegras bucket - ie, trash.

 

[UnSandvich]

It was a bench worthy performance for Panarin and Laf. Larry is dreaming if he thinks Harvard Jimmy is getting more than a 5th at the deadline


Rempe doesnt play enough. For a team that doesnt draw penalties, he is the best on the team at drawing them. he's no more defensively irresponsible than our top 6.

Rempe draws the most penalties, but he also takes the most by a WIDE margin. 4.38 taken per 60 mins. 2nd highest non-Connor Mackey (with his 2 whole games played) is Sam Carrick at 1.69.

Even with his team leading penalty draw rate, Rempe is in the negative by a not insubstantial amount

 

[NYR Viper]

Rempe draws the most penalties, but he also takes the most by a WIDE margin. 4.38 taken per 60 mins. 2nd highest non-Connor Mackey (with his 2 whole games played) is Sam Carrick at 1.69.

Even with his team leading penalty draw rate, Rempe is in the negative by a not insubstantial amount

Are his ejections and fighting majors included in those numbers

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Are his ejections and fighting majors included in those numbers

I’m sure, but he’s only fought twice this year IIRC (lost both.)

Ejections are penalties but I don’t think they count as extra.

 

[McRanger]

Are his ejections and fighting majors included in those numbers

Those numbers include Majors.

He takes 2.9 minor penalties per 60 which is highest on the team and highest in the league (min of 150 minutes)

He draws 3.6 penalties per 60 but I cant see if that includes majors. My guess is that it does.

 

[TGWL]

When people say "This isn't NHL25" or "stick to the video games" i immediately know you haven't played the games. Trading is harder in the game then real life. Somehow, the game has found a system that overvalues everything. Players, picks, prospects, unless they are on your team. Then they are worth nothing.

You have to beat the system.
Step 1. Trade for something slightly more valuable.
Step 2. Trade that for something slightly more valuable.
Step 10 - receive the best lineup possible.

 

[NickyFotiu]

Rempe is an asset in some games and not in other games. He has made some mistakes but also been called for some pretty borderline stuff just because he is tall and guys go down. I think he is a piece that I would like to keep playing until we know for sure what we have in him. He can skate. He hits. Those are the kind of things I like on my 4th line.

 

[jerseyjinx94]

More like a 6th, possibly a 5th if we're lucky

that is straight up
I could see him + a 3rd for a better 3rd, for example

Maybe, but I can see a team pay a 4th down the road as it’s viewed as the equivalent to a current 5/6

 

[MrAlmost]

You have to beat the system.
Step 1. Trade for something slightly more valuable.
Step 2. Trade that for something slightly more valuable.
Step 10 - receive the best lineup possible.

Based on what I know, that must take DAYS of proposals. Haha

 

[bernmeister]

Maybe, but I can see a team pay a 4th down the road as it’s viewed as the equivalent to a current 5/6

ok, I see ya
you're sayin 2027 4th
on par w/2025 5/6

somethin like dat?

 

[kovazub94]

Rempe is an asset in some games and not in other games. He has made some mistakes but also been called for some pretty borderline stuff just because he is tall and guys go down. I think he is a piece that I would like to keep playing until we know for sure what we have in him. He can skate. He hits. Those are the kind of things I like on my 4th line.

In general, for an average 4th line its role is 1. to give a breather to their top-9 and D by being net goal neutral via keeping the puck away from the own zone and 2. simultaneously deliver physical punishment to opponents without taking penalties. These roles become more valuable in playoffs when repeatedly facing the same opponent.

Rempe looked acceptable when he was "supported" by Carrick and Edstrom - both of whom are good in their roles. With Edstrom out IMO Rempe is more exposed but given how the season has been going - I have no problem Rempe working through his growing pains...

 

[eco's bones]

Rempe's time on ice numbers have ticked up this year which is fine. I don't have a particular problem with the minutes Laviolette has given him. Quite often the 4th line with him on it has been effective. He's still very much a work in progress though. Edstrom is to a degree too just not as much. Othmann and Berard as well---again not as much but Rempe brings a physicality that's not going to be matched and he's strictly 4th line and in that respect is not blocking Othmann or Berard or at least not unless you want them getting very limited checking line minutes.

 

[RangersFan1994]

In general, for an average 4th line its role is 1. to give a breather to their top-9 and D by being net goal neutral via keeping the puck away from the own zone and 2. simultaneously deliver physical punishment to opponents without taking penalties. These roles become more valuable in playoffs when repeatedly facing the same opponent.

Rempe looked acceptable when he was "supported" by Carrick and Edstrom - both of whom are good in their roles. With Edstrom out IMO Rempe is more exposed but given how the season has been going - I have no problem Rempe working through his growing pains...

I rather take my chances with growing pains from young players over players that play whenever it suits them like some of the vets here.