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Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XVI

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If I were Gorton, I’d offer two contracts to DeAngelo:

1 year at $4
6 years at $5m per season

Either make him repeat his performance one more year or sign a team friendly long term deal. The best defense is driving your offense up the ice and creating offensive chances. His outlet passes are consistently among the best on the team. His passes are tape to tape consistently. He provides an element of pushback that the team should be developing elsewhere.

I’m hopeful ADA realizes the opportunity in front of him and the time and development the team has invested in him while others would not have done so. He seems like a smart kid so I’m sure he does.

Lundqvist is probably, at minimum, 2 years away. The guy who may be closer is Keane.
 
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bl02 said:
Please please no!!! That being said I don’t think howden goes to the 4th line like some believe. So what gives? No way in hell Chytil should be on the 4th line.
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With Zibanejad back, I think the top-6 is set.

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That leaves Chytil, Howden, Nieves, Kakko, Smith, Haley and Lemieux. I could see Chytil swapping with Fast on the Panarin line, but other than that, I don't think Chytil will play in the top-6. Howden and Nieves seem to be locks for the 3C and 4C
 
Amazing Kreiderman said:
With Zibanejad back, I think the top-6 is set.

Panarin-Strome-Fast
Kreider-Zibanejad-Buchnevich

That leaves Chytil, Howden, Nieves, Kakko, Smith, Haley and Lemieux. I could see Chytil swapping with Fast on the Panarin line, but other than that, I don't think Chytil will play in the top-6. Howden and Nieves seem to be locks for the 3C and 4C
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Is this the lineup you are proposing? If not then why you’re ignoring Quinn’s direct statement that Chytil will be at center?
 
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Amazing Kreiderman said:
Let's wait and see
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You didn’t.

Instead you suggested something that Quinn would do that actually contradicted his direct statement, as recent as a day ago. And we all know it’s because of Lias.
If he’s your boy you should “establish” tougher standards for him and expect more from than anyone else around here. Doing the opposite is not going to be a good look on you.
 
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Amazing Kreiderman said:
With Zibanejad back, I think the top-6 is set.

Panarin-Strome-Fast
Kreider-Zibanejad-Buchnevich

That leaves Chytil, Howden, Nieves, Kakko, Smith, Haley and Lemieux. I could see Chytil swapping with Fast on the Panarin line, but other than that, I don't think Chytil will play in the top-6. Howden and Nieves seem to be locks for the 3C and 4C
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That would be atrocious roster management from Quinn. Lemmy Chytil Kakko is the obvious third line of that group and if you’re going to switch Chytil to wing when he’s finally developing as a center, you should just switch Strome to wing, which he’s played often, and get Fast out of your top six (where he doesn’t belong). Mika is a better face off guy than Strome for the top line anyway.
 
I think we should be taking a chance on Puljujarvi. But if the ask is for more than a 3rd then we have to be out. No moving Lias Anderson for this kid. A 3rd and a B Level prospect. Problem is Edmonton wants more as the Pierre Lebrun tweet suggests. They want a forward who can help right now for a kid who doesn’t want to play for them and is over in Finland.

3rd round pick, Gettinger, and someone like Skinner.
 
RGY said:
I think we should be taking a chance on Puljujarvi. But if the ask is for more than a 3rd then we have to be out. No moving Lias Anderson for this kid. A 3rd and a B Level prospect. Problem is Edmonton wants more as the Pierre Lebrun tweet suggests. They want a forward who can help right now for a kid who doesn’t want to play for them and is over in Finland.

3rd round pick, Gettinger, and someone like Skinner.
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See, I don’t understand a point of this proposal. You saw tweets and even mentioned them. How’s this proposal addressing them? There’s no immediate roster player that Edmonton is looking for and don’t you think that 4-5 teams that are interested in Puljujarvi would easily beat this?

Just say you’re not interested or that the Rangers are not a good match.
 
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kovazub94 said:
See, I don’t understand a point of this proposal. You saw tweets and even mentioned them. How’s this proposal addressing them? There’s no immediate roster player that Edmonton is looking for and don’t you think that 4-5 teams that are interested in Puljujarvi would easily beat this?

Just say you’re not interested or that the Rangers are not a good match.
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Because its a message board and what we do is speculate. Maybe take a step back from the ledge and breathe a bit, it’ll do you good.

Also, just because 4-5 UNKNOWN teams are interested doesn’t mean they are all willing to pay asking price. And who is to say it is not Edmonton leaking to the media the “4-5” teams? Maybe it’s really just 2-3 teams and they are playing the game. Don’t be a slave to the tweets as 100% truth. Don’t be that guy.
 
nyr2k2 said:
I've been lukewarm on DeAngelo forever, but if he continues to perform at such a high level then of course I'd welcome him back.

The number matters, though. If he goes for 65+ points, obviously he's going to command a lot. If the shooting percentage drops and the secondary assists dry up, and we end up at 50, then I wouldn't want to back up the Brinks truck.

Will be interesting to see how it plays out.
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Even at 50 points, in the last three years there has been 12, 19, 12 players that have reached or surpassed the 50 point marker.

You dont look to move those guys.

Defense can be learned, the ability to put up points is innate.

Until Fox can demonstrate that the potential is there, I'm not on board with moving TDA.

Especially if the thought is that Lundkvist can be a replacement.

The romantics that Lundkvist as a replacement for anyone on this roster is not something I bought into yet. I'd like to see him succeed here in the AHL before I buy into the idea of him replacing Staal let alone TDA
 
NYR said:
The same place everyone "gets it" from.
Try shopping at a different store lol
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Given your utter inability to back up anything you say or even have a decent rebuttal, this is a long shot, but perhaps you can point me to the store that "everyone" goes to?
 
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IMO you keep a stacked right side, and wait for the left side to develop with the prospects you have on defense.

The Rangers have been winning games with terrible team defense. It's not a sustainable rate, but that offense is starting from the back end. If the coverage gaps are closed, and these guys are making smarter positional plays, then you have an immediate impact.

For guys like ADA and Fox, and hopefully Skjei isn't a lost cause in this regard, if they can stay on the right side of the puck and and take away options without flailing and failing, this team will take a step sooner rather than later.

Cause- the offense is there.

It would help to have a legitimate NHL 4th line that can check. It's something that all winning teams have in common. But I honestly don't know if that's comprehensible to management right now. If you can't acquire the pieces, then develop those roles. There's enough bodies within the farm to carve out that role for an NHL pay check. Rotate guys in and out if you have to until you find a fit.
 
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A couple of things I'd like to address with the people with the "don't trade DeAngelo" stance based on things I'm seeing in posts.

1. I don't think anyone is talking about trading him right now, or even at the deadline. Over the summer will depend on his contract demands, but mostly everyone is on board with bringing him back... with an understanding that he may ultimately not be long-term part of the team.
2. No one thinks of this as a "problem"... or a bad problem, or anything like that.
 
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TheKingsCourt said:
Idk what kind of forward EDM wants for a player that has yet to prove anything but I am not offering anything better than Howden or Strome.
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I would offer Fast and nothing more. let some other time overpay him 3 or 4 mil per year which what it will take in my opinion.
 
Amazing Kreiderman said:
With Zibanejad back, I think the top-6 is set.

Panarin-Strome-Fast
Kreider-Zibanejad-Buchnevich

That leaves Chytil, Howden, Nieves, Kakko, Smith, Haley and Lemieux. I could see Chytil swapping with Fast on the Panarin line, but other than that, I don't think Chytil will play in the top-6. Howden and Nieves seem to be locks for the 3C and 4C
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I am more than fine seeing a third line of Lemieux - Chytil - Kakko
 
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Tawnos said:
Edmonton isn't trading for Strome anyway.

If there's a deal to be had, it will be something like Kreider for 1st, Puljujarvi, Benson.
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rather go after Ryan McLeod over Puljujarvi
it would make the Kakko Hughes McLeod McLeod brother rivalary NYR and NJD more entertaining. Rangers need depth at center more than the wing in my opinion.
 
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RGY said:
Because its a message board and what we do is speculate. Maybe take a step back from the ledge and breathe a bit, it’ll do you good.

Also, just because 4-5 UNKNOWN teams are interested doesn’t mean they are all willing to pay asking price. And who is to say it is not Edmonton leaking to the media the “4-5” teams? Maybe it’s really just 2-3 teams and they are playing the game. Don’t be a slave to the tweets as 100% truth. Don’t be that guy.
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Yeah, my lower back is acting up for the 3rd day in a row and so I am a bit cranky. Still the parameters of what Oilers are seeking have been out there for awhile. They are not desperate to take ANYTHING. Just look at other posts - Fast and a lower pick from Oil or Kreider with a 1st are much closer to reality and probably more interesting for discussion. Cheers!
 
RGY said:
I think we should be taking a chance on Puljujarvi. But if the ask is for more than a 3rd then we have to be out. No moving Lias Anderson for this kid. A 3rd and a B Level prospect. Problem is Edmonton wants more as the Pierre Lebrun tweet suggests. They want a forward who can help right now for a kid who doesn’t want to play for them and is over in Finland.

3rd round pick, Gettinger, and someone like Skinner.
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I think that's a fair proposal for Pool Party.

Gettinger whom can come up and play the 3rd/ 4th line for Edmonton plus a 3rd round pick.

Rumor has it Edmonton wants at least a 2nd round pick but this should be close to want is needed for a player that is not and will not play for them again.

Edmonton being Edmonton might just hold on to him but I can't see them getting a bunch better package.
 
RangersFan1994 said:
rather go after Ryan McLeod over Puljujarvi
it would make the Kakko Hughes McLeod McLeod brother rivalary NYR and NJD more entertaining. Rangers need depth at center more than the wing in my opinion.
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The reason I included Puljujarvi is that he'd be the impetus to a deal happening now, rather than at the deadline. Without him coming back, there's no deal to be made.

In terms of prospects, I firmly disagree that we need center depth more than winger depth. We need more of both.
 
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