This type of “high event player” is going to cost you 2 or 3 games in the playoffs. How many times have I heard “ this country club team” will never win the SC? Well I don’t believe we will ever win the SC with KAM on the team either, no matter how good he can look in individual games.
Speculation: Roster Building Thread : Part XVI (Playoffs or Retool?)
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McRanger92
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I havent found this to be the case with K'Andre the last few playoff runs. Trouba and Lindgren are more the types to cost you playoff games imo.
SA16
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It's an impossibility given that the Senators owner already called out the Rangers for allegedly tampering on him
NYR Viper
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I just don't see it. You want good players to try to make plays. I could agree with this if Miller was being paid to be a top-pairing guy and playing as such but at the salary we are discussing (sub $6m) that's middle-pairing money.
noncents
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yup just have to agree to disagree with the trade K'M crowd. he's not the problem.
Trying to keep it real.
I took out Rempe with the Matteau OT game 7 winner against the Debbie’s.
Machinehead
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People always fear monger about undersized, risky, and offense-oriented defensemen in the playoffs, and yet it's always the trusty stalwarts on the ice for everything that goes wrong.
I've seen it happen with both but the giant defense first oafs are never good.
Trusty "defensive" stalwart Ryan Lindgren was by far our worst defender in the playoffs last year and it wasn't even close.
Oscar Lindberg
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I have no idea what they’re going to do with KAndre long term
Although I feel confident in saying whatever it is, they’ll drop his value to its lowest before making a decision
Although I feel confident in saying whatever it is, they’ll drop his value to its lowest before making a decision
GunkWinger
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If you told me KAM just turned the corner or is about to, I wouldn't be surprised. With Trouba gone, he's gotten more responsibility and also a reliable partner. Maybe this is what he needed. And he hasn't hit the age yet that defenseman typically reach their potential. Trading him would be a mistake.
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NYRfan85
D'oh!
Everybody seems to forget that this happened. I highly doubt the Sens are going to change their mind on dealing him to the Rangers.
Machinehead
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NYR Viper
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If Dallas offered:
Mavrik Bourque
Tristan Bertucci
DAL 1st '26
DAL 2nd '26
DAL 3rd '25
for
Panarin
Lindgren @ 50%
Would you sign up for that?
Mavrik Bourque
Tristan Bertucci
DAL 1st '26
DAL 2nd '26
DAL 3rd '25
for
Panarin
Lindgren @ 50%
Would you sign up for that?
Machinehead
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I'm not against it. I'd hope for something more exciting than Bourque. He's 23 and he's a bottom sixer. That's probably what he is.
NYR Viper
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It's his first full year in the league and he has 16 points in 49 games which doesn't jump out at you but he's playing ~12 minutes a night. I'm not sure he ever progresses past that middle-6 area but I think he has good skill and could be a good piece.
I'm just not sure a high end piece comes back for any player with just over a year left. Maybe, but I doubt it.
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I don't think Montreal would do that. They don't have a need for Jones. They already have 5 lefties on the roster, and one of them is Lane Hutson, so Jones isn't going to get PP time. If they move Matheson, maybe they would consider it, but they might want an AHL dman back to replace Lindstrom.
Miller is the type of player to be an overwhelming net positive but his negative plays are flamboyant so people latch on to them.
Yea I was thinking Matheson goes
I also think it’s a no risk move for them as Dvorak won’t have much value without retention
NYR Viper
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SA16
Sixstring
I think this is really bad for us. It's mostly quantity. It's likely a late 1st and not even this years 1st (since they don't have one) so that discounts it. The 2nd or 3rd would likely come from Lindgren alone especially retained.
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which bucket you put Lindgren? Because he's far from the defensive stalwart he was expected to be that stemmed from him being undersized combined with an injury he suffered in 2022-2023 season. I'm pretty sure it was shoulder separation that completely robbed him of a physical strength required for board battles and clearing net front. (p.s. I could've lived him not being "offense-oriented").
Now you're comparing him in this current state to say Jones? In vacuum I'd lean toward Jones if these were the only two options available but I'd be just uncomfortable to have him on the top pair for 20+minutes to keep taking all the abuse that would be coming his way. In a game or two all his offense-orientation would be beaten out of him and he'd turn into exactly the same defensive stalwart as you define Lindgren.
