Speculation: Roster Building Thread : Part XVI (Playoffs or Retool?)

[n8]

Do we expect Edstrom to be back after the break? 4th line needs big Ed.

 

[NYR Viper]

Do we expect Edstrom to be back after the break? 4th line needs big Ed.

Don't think so, they said 2-3 months

 

[Machinehead]

Do we expect Edstrom to be back after the break? 4th line needs big Ed.

His regular season is over, most likely. Sounds like a break.

 

[Do you want ants]

Could have just not traded the 1st.

But we did, so here we are.

 

[bernmeister]

Why not Prov?

Am open to a second look w/mo scrutiny, but my expectation is he will want long term and even if not top top dollar will not be cheap and time wise back end of a long term deal may not be good

AFP Projections

Anyone seen this yet? Gavrikov and Orlov seem reasonable based on projections

Gavrikov - 5 years @ $5.4m
Orlov - 3 @ $5m
Maata - 3 @ $3.1m
Kovacevix - 2 years @ $1.55m

They have K'Andre Miller @ 6 years and $5.3m cap hit. SIGN THAT DEAL NOW

Not sure KAM is legit at that quote but I'd try to go max 8 hrs 5.75-6.25, no NMCs, ok level of ntc

Gav on paper is not gonna be that cheap after this and last season looking very good.
Freddie Prinz
lookin good!!!

 

[McRanger92]

I'm all for making smart moves without having to fit it into a paradigm. Trading our first was not a smart move.

If we make the playoffs we keep it. And trading a first for the 1C we needed, under contract for 4+ seasons wasnt exactly giving it away.

 

[cheech70]

Elite talent and rising cap are the NYR best scouting tip. Will be getting rid of 20-93-10 and replacing with Eichel Necas Bowen etc....Bottom 6 is covered we just need to go shopping for some top 6.

 

[MrAlmost]

You don't want Orlov. Especially at the number he likely will get. Gavrikov and Maata. We should get Maata now and resign him. Good replacement for Lindgten and would be a great 3LD with Schneider if we get Gavrikov in the summer. Or another top LD.

 

[Guyute]

Oh look, Fox is a 26 yo 1st pair RD for Team USA. He's on the wrong side of 25. Let's trade him!

You don't want Orlov. Especially at the number he likely will get. Gavrikov and Maata. We should get Maata now and resign him. Good replacement for Lindgten and would be a great 3LD with Schneider if we get Gavrikov in the summer. Or another top LD.

Gavrikov played with Shesterkin on SKA. If Shesterkin gives Drury the thumbs up, I could see NYR going after Gavrikov this summer.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

That's what we want? Sneak into the playoffs to get destroyed in the 1st round?

My point was that they picked themselves up this year and have a great record.

 

[NickyFotiu]

Gotta start over at this point.

I would hate to trade Fox but who else would be untouchable?

And definitely anyone over 30 should be gone. Mika, Kreider, Panarin, Smith. Lindgren too.

No players on this team are untouchable imo. Few in sports are.

 

[HonestGabe]

The 3 games immediately following the four nations break will dictate our deadline path IMO.

Sabres, Pens, Islanders. That SHOULD be 3 easy wins, but this team doesn't make anything easy.

Win all 3 and we will likely be in a wild card spot. 2-1 probably has us anywhere from 2-4 points back. Any other outcome and we may find ourselves in too big a hole to climb out of.

 

[bernmeister]

Oh look, Fox is a 26 yo 1st pair RD for Team USA. He's on the wrong side of 25. Let's trade him!
....

Yes, let's trade him b'c return >>>> keeping him

 

[mas0764]

Lafreniere before he loses all his value like Kakko did?

Ugh.

Maybe.

 

[noncents]

The Athletic has updated their player cards. Will Cuylle. How much would it cost for 6 years instead of doing the two year bridge deal and going for more term later? Dom and Shayna have Cuylle's value at $3.6M.

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this 5v5 defensive number is more dependent on the team than it purports to be.

 

[UnparalledPark]

The Caps are geriatric and they'll be buyers before losing in the first round. Not a position I wanna be in.

Personally, I think they are more likely to lose in the 2nd round.

 

[UnparalledPark]

I'm assuming Mika won't be here after this summer. If he is, I'm honestly not sure this team is serious about winning a cup.

I agree wholeheartedly that we need to start infusing speed up & down the lineup, however.

Gotcha. I’m thinking there’s about an 80 % chance he’ll be here next year. Hopefully, in a lot better shape.

 

[TGWL]

That's what we want? Sneak into the playoffs to get destroyed in the 1st round?

Considering we don't have our first unless it's top 13, and depending where it falls, I'd rather the 2026 first, I guess getting destroyed in the 1st round and giving up a later first wouldn't be the worst thing.

 

[cheech70]

Laf as a starting piece is reasonable

 

[JohnC]

If Tkachuck gets moved to Matthew’s line does that mean he’s going to Toronto instead?

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

The 3 games immediately following the four nations break will dictate our deadline path IMO.

Sabres, Pens, Islanders. That SHOULD be 3 easy wins, but this team doesn't make anything easy.

Win all 3 and we will likely be in a wild card spot. 2-1 probably has us anywhere from 2-4 points back. Any other outcome and we may find ourselves in too big a hole to climb out of.

There are no easy wins, but even so, I doubt they are on see-saw and are going to base their actions on how it goes over the last 3-4 games before the deadline.

They'll likely go 1-1-1 just because that's what they are and they like to f*** with us. A mediocre team that regardless of making it or not will find themselves in the 12-18 range of the first round.

But let's not kid ourselves. If they go 3-0 its "buy" mode. If they go 0-3, its "buy" mode. I think Drury has an idea of what type of deal he wants to make and what type of players he wants to bring in for the future, not just to improve their immediate playoff push. The cap space is burning a hole in his pocket and they have a shot to make the playoffs right now so they are preparing to add.

I think he'll try and satisfy both means by using assets to trade for players with term. If a UFA is brought in it may be addition by subtraction (Lindgren hopefully, maybe Jones because he wants to be moved anyway) or for a very late pick that wont mean much either way for the future (7th D type of guy). I dont think we will be seeing them go all in for some of the top names. They've already done that with JT.

I'd be shocked if he stood pat.

I'd also be shocked if they become a traditional "seller", even if they go 0-4 and slip further down the standings before March 1st.

 

[McRanger92]

Ottawa can easily miss the playoffs. I would bet my money that they will if I had to guess. Brady T’s NMC kicks in July 1. I imagine the Rangers, Flyers & Devils will be his preferred destinations. I want it to work with Laf and believe it will but he’s going the Sens if that deal is on the table

 

[kovazub94]

I'd sign Gavrikov for a number close to $7m. Maybe not $7m, but $6.5m? $6.75m? Yeah I'm in for that.

With the cap rising so much is there really a way to say on a multi-year contract that $6.5m AAV is appropriate but $7m is not?

 

[Machinehead]

Personally, I think they are more likely to lose in the 2nd round.

Yeah, you're probably right. Right now, they would match up with Detroit who are somehow in a playoff spot.

This conference with like three good teams is gonna send eight to the playoffs.

 

[pld459666]

People still haven't processed the fact that K Miller was being weighed down by the mother of all anchors and haven't updated their view on him.

He still makes poor to stupid decisions with and without the puck.

That's all on Key.