Speculation: Roster Building Thread : Part XVI (Playoffs or Retool?)

[GoAwayPanarin]

EH has Lindgren at around 46% before the new year and 43% after. I'd be interested in knowing why there's such a discrepancy between the two sites.

Did you have NST on 5v5? "Even strength" creates all sorts of nonsense.

Regardless, we know what goals are and his goals share is 43% before and 44% after!

Yeah these are at 5v5.

NST has been on the pipe for years in terms of tracking scoring chances but It's the best I've got access to that allows you to do date ranges. Literally the only time I use it.

46 vs 43 sounds more in line with what I was expecting.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Drury should be all over this . Get Zegras

 

[n8]

Soucy sounds like an upgrade over Lindgren. I think JT would have to give his seal of approval but 1 for 1 for Lindgren. Make it happen!

Random musings... minus Kreider & Smith, 2025-26 depth looks like this:
Panarin-Miller-Laf
Cuylle-Trocheck-GP
Berard-Ziba-Othmann
Edstrom-Carrick-Rempe
Sykora-Roobroeck-Chmelar

 

[Ratelleitlikeitis]

I think it could be argued "middling success" is overly generous to the Rangers. To my last breath, Espo as a Ranger and Ratelle/Park as Bruins just felt....horribly wrong.

Pain when Middleton was wearing black and yellow as well.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Drury should be all over this . Get Zegras

Undersized injury prone perimeter player.

This fan base will eat him alive.

 

[Boris Zubov]

Undersized injury prone perimeter player.

This fan base will eat him alive.

Yeah I don't get the allure. I also don't see him as a Drury type of acquisition. Like him or not, he has been consistent about the type of players he wants on the team.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

no to zegras. he aint got that dog in him

 

[McRanger92]

Rangers arent trading K'Andre or Schneider for Zegras and they shouldnt.

 

[NYR Viper]

Soucy sounds like an upgrade over Lindgren. I think JT would have to give his seal of approval but 1 for 1 for Lindgren. Make it happen!

Random musings... minus Kreider & Smith, 2025-26 depth looks like this:
Panarin-Miller-Laf
Cuylle-Trocheck-GP
Berard-Ziba-Othmann
Edstrom-Carrick-Rempe
Sykora-Roobroeck-Chmelar

The concern with Soucy is he has another year left at $3.25m I believe. So he’s not a rental. At that cap hit, he really needs to be a solid #5 or ideally partner for Fox where he’s playing a safe game. That could be the case but it’s a risk because of next years term. Vancouver is basically looking to dump him to make cap room

 

[Machinehead]

Zegras sucks. Period. End of tweet. No extrapolation needed.

 

[McRanger92]

The concern with Soucy is he has another year left at $3.25m I believe. So he’s not a rental. At that cap hit, he really needs to be a solid #5 or ideally partner for Fox where he’s playing a safe game. That could be the case but it’s a risk because of next years term. Vancouver is basically looking to dump him to make cap room

3.25 for 1 year is basically nothing to me with the cap going up. They can have Jones if they are dumping that minuscule an amount of money

 

[NYR Viper]

3.25 for 1 year is basically nothing to me with the cap going up. They can have Jones if they are dumping that minuscule an amount of money

It’s a small amount, yes, but it’s not without risk. That could be the difference in getting Gavrikov or getting someone like Maata

 

[IDvsEGO]

Zegras sucks. Period. End of tweet. No extrapolation needed.

Can we flip lindgren for him?
At least zegras might have some upside left.

 

[zlev]

zegras is like if zibanejad was never good

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Undersized injury prone perimeter player.

This fan base will eat him alive.

Well you’re not going to get a better youngish player who has top 6 and center upside .

zegras is like if zibanejad was never good

How old was Zibanejad when he became good?

Yeah I don't get the allure. I also don't see him as a Drury type of acquisition. Like him or not, he has been consistent about the type of players he wants on the team.

Yeah, old ones

 

[UnparalledPark]

The concern with Soucy is he has another year left at $3.25m I believe. So he’s not a rental. At that cap hit, he really needs to be a solid #5 or ideally partner for Fox where he’s playing a safe game. That could be the case but it’s a risk because of next years term. Vancouver is basically looking to dump him to make cap room

Although I haven’t seen him play lately, he’d more than likely be our 5th bet Dman, and someone big enough to clear the crease. Not necessarily advocating for him but….

zegras is like if zibanejad was never good

Good one.

 

[IDvsEGO]

zegras is like if zibanejad was never good

zegras is 23

At the end of his age 22 season Mika had scored a total of 151 points over 281 games.
At the end of his age 22 season. Zegras had scored 154 points over 211 games.

Mika's career high in those years was 21g, 30a for 51 points.
Zegras 23g 42a for 65 points

People forget that there is a reason Ottawa traded a young top 10 picked center.

 

[eco's bones]

Looking at Zegras's production numbers and his cap hit I can see why the Ducks would want to move on from him. His current cap hit is $5.75 mil. To qualify him after next year we're talking at least $6.5 mil for someone who had 15 points in 31 games last year and 15 points in 31 games so far this year. He's not known for his two way game and his production numbers seriously underwhelm the cap hit he has. You would have to seriously think this guy is going to find his game again and that at least to me is pretty unclear. Lots of players have serious skills. That doesn't always mean they're good hockey players.

When the Rangers moved on from Kakko a main reason was he was close to reaching a point where we'd have to either lock him up or risk losing him to free agency. Since then he's played pretty much as well as he ever has but I don't necessarily think we made a mistake. I think it was time and I also think it freed him in a way he'd never experienced before. He seems to be finally getting it. Zegras has kind of lost the plot in the last couple years. That doesn't mean he won't find it again but if we're bringing him in it's a real gamble and for me he's making way more than I'd feel comfortable paying him.

 

[haohmaru]

How old was Zibanejad when he became good?

Better yet, how old was JT before he got good? Marchand?

Still, no guarantee that Zegras will ever be good. We just don't know.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Zegras sucks. Period. End of tweet. No extrapolation needed.

he’s robbie schremp with a platform

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Take them off the first PP unit and Dubinsky/Callahan are both 30-35 point players.

That’s pretty unfair. Take MOST players off the first PP and their production drops 35-40%. McDavid, Kucherov, Panarin included. So that’s a very poor take.

 

[lakeshirts37]

3.25 for 1 year is basically nothing to me with the cap going up. They can have Jones if they are dumping that minuscule an amount of money

Rangers really dont have that much room next year

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Well you’re not going to get a better youngish player who has top 6 and center upside .


How old was Zibanejad when he became good?


Yeah, old ones

Well then get a better player who is older. The age obsession is ridiculous.

He does one thing well that we could use (controlled entries, and I don’t even know if that’s still true) and he has a shit load of faults that you and just about everyone else murder our current players for.

Just because Zibanejad became good later doesn’t mean that Zegras will. Play styles also matter, do you want another flashy guy who plays on the outside and is wildly inefficient?

This is before even getting to the durability concerns. He’s played like 30 games in the last 2 seasons.

 

[McRanger92]

Rangers really dont have that much room next year

If they are moving Kreider and Mika like everyone thinks, they'll have plenty

 

[Machinehead]

That’s pretty unfair. Take MOST players off the first PP and their production drops 35-40%. McDavid, Kucherov, Panarin included. So that’s a very poor take.

No, that was exactly the point I was making.

Cuylle's production is already at where any realistic comparison would fall controlling for powerplay time.