Speculation: Roster Building Thread : Part XV (Light em up!)

[leetch99]

We need to get a back up plan then. It’s been memed but I’d try Laf at center

What about Edstrom ? Laf might be OK...we don't get a lot right now from him no matter where he is .

 

[n8]

I was considering a 3-way trade with Miller, Mika but assuming no waiving for west coast (read that) or Canada (assuming for tax) for Mika there really aren't any good dance partners who need a center at his price and term and have some ones that would entice Vancouver.

• Florida has no cap and run Barkov, Bennett, Lundell.
• Tampa similarly no cap with Point, Cirelli, Paul.
• Carolina could upgrade Kotkaniemi and have $4M in cap but I doubt Vancouver would take a random collection of parts and Carolina is not parting with Nikishin for Mika. LOL.
• New Jersey already has Hischer, Hughes, no cap.
• Detroit has no cap. They'd have to deal Debrincat. Signed through only 2027. Is that good enough or is that much cap going away actually a draw. Also don't know why Detroit would do that unless the true Yzerplan is to assemble Team Sweden. Detroit does has a bunch of short term parts if Vancouver is looking to fill out their depth but they'll have a gapping whole at center if they do that. Detroit isn't moving Larkin for this type of deal. Andrew Copp is NOT the answer either.
• Maybe Boston? Lindholm proved to not be a Bergeron replacement. Maybe we can convince them Mika can do the job! They don't have cap either
• Pittsburgh has Crosby Malkin (IR). 3C is weak for them. I don't think they have the parts to give Vancouver anything they'd value.
• Columbus has Fantilli, Johnson, Monahan, Sillinger, Bel Belluz. I don't think they need a center. If they really wanted Mika and really wanted to take on all that cap, then maybe there is a deal to be made. Columbus has a TON of cap.

Rangers can retain cap if it makes sense. I imagine it'd be tough with JTM's cap coming back. It could work in a goofy way if VAN retains, NYR retain, VAN gets back less overall cap from a 3rd team.

TLDR; given destination restrictions, I don't see a dance partner for a Mika deal.

 

[n8]

I don't think this would fly, just some napkin GMing. Start of a convo?

Zibanejad to BOS
Zacha + Carlo to VAN
Miller to NYR
New York possibly retaining, probably adding assets that go VAN's way.

 

[Vitto79]

He plays 5 min b'c stupid mgmt favors vets, has been a trend for years, they keep losing doing that, and until they bend, buckle and break on that, it will continue

On that item Rempe is a victim, not a cause

Vesey has been dead for a while and should have been gone since last season
he no longer has enough motor to do much


And if we continue to try w/same formula only a yr older w/same assets older, less energy, mo expensive, we deserve to continue to lose

win now = no, wrong
listen to bern

If Kreider is activated Rempe goes down Bern

Keep Bo up

 

[bernmeister]

I was considering a 3-way trade with Miller, Mika but assuming no waiving for west coast (read that) or Canada (assuming for tax) for Mika there really aren't any good dance partners who need a center at his price and term and have some ones that would entice Vancouver.

• Florida has no cap and run Barkov, Bennett, Lundell.
• Tampa similarly no cap with Point, Cirelli, Paul.
• Carolina could upgrade Kotkaniemi and have $4M in cap but I doubt Vancouver would take a random collection of parts and Carolina is not parting with Nikishin for Mika. LOL.
• New Jersey already has Hischer, Hughes, no cap.
• Detroit has no cap. They'd have to deal Debrincat. Signed through only 2027. Is that good enough or is that much cap going away actually a draw. Also don't know why Detroit would do that unless the true Yzerplan is to assemble Team Sweden. Detroit does has a bunch of short term parts if Vancouver is looking to fill out their depth but they'll have a gapping whole at center if they do that. Detroit isn't moving Larkin for this type of deal. Andrew Copp is NOT the answer either.
• Maybe Boston? Lindholm proved to not be a Bergeron replacement. Maybe we can convince them Mika can do the job! They don't have cap either
• Pittsburgh has Crosby Malkin (IR). 3C is weak for them. I don't think they have the parts to give Vancouver anything they'd value.
• Columbus has Fantilli, Johnson, Monahan, Sillinger, Bel Belluz. I don't think they need a center. If they really wanted Mika and really wanted to take on all that cap, then maybe there is a deal to be made. Columbus has a TON of cap.

Rangers can retain cap if it makes sense. I imagine it'd be tough with JTM's cap coming back. It could work in a goofy way if VAN retains, NYR retain, VAN gets back less overall cap from a 3rd team.

TLDR; given destination restrictions, I don't see a dance partner for a Mika deal.

see my post 3846

we don't know about the VAN top pivot picture
we KNOW mika does NOT want to go there BUT
I think it reasonable if he is given a public assurance it is balance of this season stopgap if he does not want to stay and they will try to move him to a preferred location, he may be open. Hopefully he has gotten the message that possible long term benching is a real-> likely option.

I don't think he capitulates and let us send him anywhere, but I think if we and VAN both agree to work long term he might be open

and as I said,
I could see we send Bogen + KAM + for JTM +

I could see Elias Pett + Bogen as base for Dobson + Barzal

if that happens, Zib could be top dog in VAN, which may/may not make dif but shouldn't be negative short term

I agree
only possible places that fit on paper are:
VAN for above, or if only JTM goes [anywhere] and Elias Pett stays, then he's got his Swede bro

or
LA - ny of the west coast, hip music scene

outside maybe on Nash

If Kreider is activated Rempe goes down Bern

Keep Bo up

no NO NO
ditch Vesey
play CK as he can handle it

 

[FoxysExpensiveNYDigs]

see my post 3846

we don't know about the VAN top pivot picture
we KNOW mika does NOT want to go there BUT
I think it reasonable if he is given a public assurance it is balance of this season stopgap if he does not want to stay and they will try to move him to a preferred location, he may be open. Hopefully he has gotten the message that possible long term benching is a real-> likely option.

I don't think he capitulates and let us send him anywhere, but I think if we and VAN both agree to work long term he might be open

and as I said,
I could see we send Bogen + KAM + for JTM +

I could see Elias Pett + Bogen as base for Dobson + Barzal

if that happens, Zib could be top dog in VAN, which may/may not make dif but shouldn't be negative short term

I agree
only possible places that fit on paper are:
VAN for above, or if only JTM goes [anywhere] and Elias Pett stays, then he's got his Swede bro

or
LA - ny of the west coast, hip music scene

outside maybe on Nash


no NO NO
ditch Vesey
play CK as he can handle it

Not sure if you are paying attention but Mika has 5 points in the last 5 games now that Kreider isn't dragging him down. He's worth more to the Rangers if he regains his form than the terrible return would be trading him. Trade Kreider, Lindgren.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

I don't care how many points rempe doesn't have, what he looks like out there, the team plays better with him than without. Trochek took a run at Hughes the other night, I'm not sure he feels comfortable doing that without Rempe, and I get it, trochek plays hard but without Rempe he may have to answer to mcdermid and that's always in the back of your mind. Vesey is fine but really we aren't missing much with him scratched, same for Brodz. If Rempe can figure out defense as a forward in the nhl, a line of Edstrom Carrick and Rempe is the type of line the Bruins used on their 4th line when they were a perennial cup contender/winner

 

[Daves a mess]

Blow Ghoul ftw!!

 

[Vitto79]

see my post 3846

we don't know about the VAN top pivot picture
we KNOW mika does NOT want to go there BUT
I think it reasonable if he is given a public assurance it is balance of this season stopgap if he does not want to stay and they will try to move him to a preferred location, he may be open. Hopefully he has gotten the message that possible long term benching is a real-> likely option.

I don't think he capitulates and let us send him anywhere, but I think if we and VAN both agree to work long term he might be open

and as I said,
I could see we send Bogen + KAM + for JTM +

I could see Elias Pett + Bogen as base for Dobson + Barzal

if that happens, Zib could be top dog in VAN, which may/may not make dif but shouldn't be negative short term

I agree
only possible places that fit on paper are:
VAN for above, or if only JTM goes [anywhere] and Elias Pett stays, then he's got his Swede bro

or
LA - ny of the west coast, hip music scene

outside maybe on Nash


no NO NO
ditch Vesey
play CK as he can handle it

Vesey would have to hit waivers but like I said I’ll take a pick first him

 

[Vitto79]

What about Edstrom ? Laf might be OK...we don't get a lot right now from him no matter where he is .

I am confused because Edstrom was drafted as a C no ?

 

[n8]

see my post 3846

we don't know about the VAN top pivot picture
we KNOW mika does NOT want to go there BUT
I think it reasonable if he is given a public assurance it is balance of this season stopgap if he does not want to stay and they will try to move him to a preferred location, he may be open. Hopefully he has gotten the message that possible long term benching is a real-> likely option.

I don't think he capitulates and let us send him anywhere, but I think if we and VAN both agree to work long term he might be open

and as I said,
I could see we send Bogen + KAM + for JTM +

I could see Elias Pett + Bogen as base for Dobson + Barzal

if that happens, Zib could be top dog in VAN, which may/may not make dif but shouldn't be negative short term

I agree
only possible places that fit on paper are:
VAN for above, or if only JTM goes [anywhere] and Elias Pett stays, then he's got his Swede bro

or
LA - ny of the west coast, hip music scene

outside maybe on Nash

I don't know if you saw this but Kyperos is reporting that Zibanejad will not waive his NMC to a west coast team so operating off that intel, you should not entertain Ziba in VAN in any way, shape, or form. No VAN. No LA. No Vegas. Don't care how hip the music scene is. Don't care how many Swede bros are there for him to hang out with.

Bolded is pipe dream. The plus would be from us and it would be in the tune of a 1st with our valuable scraps.

You might say NO to that thought but know that I will go with the professional NHL analyst with connections, talking to actual NHL people, getting actual intel on the situation over forum speculation.

Also, why do you quote me if you don't even bother responding to my post. Kinda rude!

 

[haohmaru]

IDk what that means. By that logic no team in the league would want him

Who said NHL GM's are logical? Ryan Reaves is still playing.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Why in the world would nyr trade possibly one of the top 4 forwards we've ever had in Panarin, we just throwing shit at the wall now

 

[RangersFan1994]

Why doesn't MSG ever air the alumni games, even on the Rangers website they should stream it? The Rangers management in the broadcast and social media world needs an upgrade.