Speculation: Roster Building Thread : Part XV (Light em up!)

[LokiDog]

Geeze.

You could put Tanner Glass between Pasta and Bread and still have a very dangerous line.

I’m fairly certain that the only player who is allowed to play on a line with Panarin and Pastrnak is Mangiapanne.

It’s the laws of the universe. Bread, pasta, and eat bread.

 

[Kocur Dill]

I’m fairly certain that the only player who is allowed to play on a line with Panarin and Pastrnak is Mangiapanne.

It’s the laws of the universe. Bread, pasta, and eat bread.

Ive said before. Kakko didnt work out here because he was Celiac and the Breadman was bad juju.

 

[LokiDog]

I know it’s pure fantasy, but I actually think Lindgren would be a really solid 4th line forward and Miller would be a really good middle six winger.

Since our defense is an absolute shit show and massive changes are needed, I would honestly stand and applaud any coach who’d even consider giving either a look at a different position. I clearly wouldn’t advocate this normally - I wouldn’t suggest Zib or Laf of Kreider or really anyone else switch positions, but Miller was a forward, his decision making as a D is a hinderance, but his physical tools, size, skating, etc. make it very realistic for me that having FAR less responsibility as a winger would actually be tremendous for him (anyone remember a Brent Burns went from D to F back to D? As did Byfuglien). Lindgren just doesn’t have enough juice left in the tank to be a 20 minute a night D man, but he would make a great high energy, forechecker and backchecker playing 10 min per night. I’m honestly dead serious. What better year to try something radical than this?

 

[n8]

I’m fairly certain that the only player who is allowed to play on a line with Panarin and Pastrnak is Mangiapanne.

It’s the laws of the universe. Bread, pasta, and eat bread.

Play with Dellandrea. his nickname is Del Taco. Or get Ray "Chicken Parm" Ferarro
and then play them with Vlasic aka Pickles and Bryan "Soupie" Campbell.
And dig up where ever Andrew "Hamburglar" Hammond is.

 

[Profet]

I’m fairly certain that the only player who is allowed to play on a line with Panarin and Pastrnak is Mangiapanne.

It’s the laws of the universe. Bread, pasta, and eat bread.

Where is Guy Carbonneau when you need him?

 

[BBKers]

Up until TDL 2025
Trade: Kreider, Zib (offseason??), Lindgren, Smith, Vesey, Jones at TDL for picks, prospects and salary dumps.
Possibly trade one of Quick or Garand if there is a great offer

Offseason
Sign Perreault
Sign Trent Frederic as UFA as 3C and Dmitry Orlov as 1 LD
Find a bargain bin UFA up front plus eventually a goalie.

Next years team
Per-oh - Vinny - Bread
Laf - Chytil - Cuylle
Berard/Edström - ?? - Othmann/Kaliyev
?? - Carrick - Rempe/Brodz…
Spare ??

?? - Fox
Miller - Schneider
??? Vak - Borgen
7 - Mackey | Other UFA/trade

Shesty
???

Improve roster at TDL 2026 if play warrants it with the assets accumulated this year

2026
Switch Bread with McJesus (in typical Broadway fashion). Rinse repeat...

 

[RangerBoy]

i totally agree, it's stupid. i also am sure it's what we're gonna do. we are stupid.


the sooner you realize none of these moves are happening the less you'll be disappointed when they don't.

This is why the Rangers haven't won in 30 years. The old formula hasn't worked. Bill Zito cleared out all of the fan favorites. Reshaped that roster. The Panthers were a nothing team. Bold and hard decisions. The same shit will continue to happen and we will blame the coach. Another year is quickly coming to a conclusion. 14 games until the 4 Nations break. Only 7 games until the trading deadline. All of these mamalukes are one year older and got paid. The Rangers have gotten worse.

 

[RangerBoy]

No rebuild has ever worked unless you luck into at least 1 and usually 2 future hall of famers. You also don’t bail on a team after 1 half season of poor play when we ended our last rebuild 3 years ago. There are moves to be made still but there’s no rebuild coming.

Vancouver is not looking to rebuild with their potential moves involving JT Messier and Petey. They are want players back.

The Rangers have some core pieces to trade and they should. I am not saying the Rangers should make a trade with Vancouver. Same situation though.

 

[RangerBoy]

The Rangers will have so much cap space accrued at the trade deadline. They will have more if Kreider gets off IR. 13 forwards instead of 14 forwards. Drury should be selling off his rentals for futures which will create more cap space even with 50% retention on all three spots. Drury should also look to move his establishment players for NHL players. The Rangers could acquire a signed player(s) with their cap space at the deadline for future years.

Drury did a terrific job moving Trouba for UV18 and a 4th round pick with Anaheim taking on the full contract. That move creates so many possibilities.

Kakko. I love Kakko. The Rangers were better off not winning the lottery in 2019 and remaining at #6 to select Matt Boldy. Whenever Kakko does anything, twitter goes crazy. I have seen Kakko. He looks like the same player in Seattle. The Rangers moved on. Other teams also liked Borgen. Drury has the possibility of getting a really good return for Borgen. A better return than Kakko. If the Rangers are interested in signing Borgen in the summer, you say "Will don't forget about us on July 1. Good luck buddy" when you tell him about the trade. Is that tampering?

I just think Drury has an excellent opportunity to reshape the roster for seasons beyond this season. He should think outside of the box.

 

[bernmeister]

How's Mancini for an extended Marcus Pettersson? Extend Borgen. Thats where my mind currently is. If they aren't going to trade Schneider for Jt, who Drury apparently has coveted for years, I dont think there's another guy out there he'd go for, sans Brady T.

Mancini is a good prospect but he's a 5th round pick who we'd be thrilled if he turned into Will Borgen down the road. And as you said Emery is working his way up behind Mancini. Garand is another prospect who is in the same boat roaster wise. Pittsburgh could use actual players close to the NHL, instead of 1st rounders that will get to the NHL when Sid is 40.

Anyway. that's where my mind has been with trades recently.

NO
why constantly giving away quality youth w/upside for vets?

Petterson is at the bottom of the list but he’d still be much better than Lindgren

yes but that's not saying much and not at the cost of Mancini

This makes no sense. Berard was bright spond he gets sent down. Stupid message to send to the youth especially when he was playing well.


They could have waived and dealt Vesey. It's a shame they send down young players to the AHL so they won't take that chance to lose a 12th 13th forward to waivers

full agree

I like Bo up but should of been Rempe down not Berard

no ...

Berard demoted for Rempe. Team bad

... x2

Chris Drury is an idiot keeping dumbass Rempe up but not Berard

... x3

Not exactly true but Rempe being a thing at the NHL level is mind boggling.

Dude is barely an average AHL player.

... x4

Rempe may never be across the board all star w/zero holes in his game, but he has legit NHL talent, and given he needs to compete vs actual NHL talent to get to that final level, he MUST be HERE now

 

[pld459666]

I don't care what it's called, rebuild, retool, but the core guys at the top have to be changed either swapped out, or reassigned.

Kreider and his back, Chitil and his brittle body have to go. I do not want to rely on part time players. An important part of one's ability is AVAIL-ability. Both are lacking that.

Mika needs to go somewhere he is playing 4th, 5th or 6th fiddle. A top 3 player is no longer is the cards for him.

I wonder if Utah or the Blues would take Mika as both are within striking distance of the playoffs.

The Rangers are closer the last in the conference than they are to the last playoff spot.

A very bad hockey team

Not much different than what we have now

 

[leetch99]

He said "as of now" Mika has no interest in the West coast. Best case scenario for us is Mika keeping up the improved play.

We may as well just suck it up and live with knowing Mika and his buddy are here until next Summer ....and maybe longer for at least Mika .

Does anybody have a possible scenario for our D next season which I would consider to be the backbone of team success and or lack of . Will it all hinge on what we do with Kreider ??? I know we will need some/how many ? additions but I have no idea on what we have to spend on the D . Can we retain Borgen-Urho and Miller.............................Lindgren ?

Can we or would we want Lindgren back for 2 ?? Million a season as our 3rd pairing guy and we play a zone D ? He is a loyal soldier....he might stay for a 3 yr deal . I think he would be fine in a new system and at #6 position back there . Slotted/priced correctly I think he stays .

 

[noncents]

We may as well just suck it up and live with knowing Mika and his buddy are here until next Summer ....and maybe longer for at least Mika .

Does anybody have a possible scenario for our D next season which I would consider to be the backbone of team success and or lack of . Will it all hinge on what we do with Kreider ??? I know we will need some/how many ? additions but I have no idea on what we have to spend on the D . Can we retain Borgen-Urho and Miller.............................Lindgren ?

Can we or would we want Lindgren back for 2 ?? Million a season as our 3rd pairing guy and we play a zone D ? He is a loyal soldier....he might stay for a 3 yr deal . I think he would be fine in a new system and at #6 position back there . Slotted/priced correctly I think he stays .

bold move coming here talking about resigning lindgren. very bold. let's see how it goes

 

[leetch99]

I think Drury likes Schneider too much to deal him for anything less than a massive win. So I think he stays.
And don’t sleep on Fortescue. I believe he’s a NYR in the 26-27 season.

Also...didn't Schneider play the left side for a couple of games and look OK while doing so ?

 

[McRanger92]

The Rangers will have so much cap space accrued at the trade deadline. They will have more if Kreider gets off IR. 13 forwards instead of 14 forwards. Drury should be selling off his rentals for futures which will create more cap space even with 50% retention on all three spots. Drury should also look to move his establishment players for NHL players. The Rangers could acquire a signed player(s) with their cap space at the deadline for future years.

Drury did a terrific job moving Trouba for UV18 and a 4th round pick with Anaheim taking on the full contract. That move creates so many possibilities.

Kakko. I love Kakko. The Rangers were better off not winning the lottery in 2019 and remaining at #6 to select Matt Boldy. Whenever Kakko does anything, twitter goes crazy. I have seen Kakko. He looks like the same player in Seattle. The Rangers moved on. Other teams also liked Borgen. Drury has the possibility of getting a really good return for Borgen. A better return than Kakko. If the Rangers are interested in signing Borgen in the summer, you say "Will don't forget about us on July 1. Good luck buddy" when you tell him about the trade. Is that tampering?

I just think Drury has an excellent opportunity to reshape the roster for seasons beyond this season. He should think outside of the box.

I agree with all you're saying but I'm leaving room for their play improving to the point they are in the thick of the playoff race. They arent gonna sell off completely if they get back in it. Lindgren should go no matter what and Smith too. Borgen is most likely part of the turnaround if it continues so I dont think they'd deal him. If they get offered a first you almost have to take it though.

I said my peace on Mika, Kreider, JTM. Feels like summer moves. K'Andre is available if someone knocks their socks off. The Trouba trade was huge for their flexibilitiy going into 2025 and I think Kreider is next whether its now or in 6 months. That's 18 million in uncommitted cap space (if you trade Kreider for futures) between now and opening night.

Long story short, im open to buying and selling trades coming up this season. No rentals unless the intention is to sign them (or trade them in Borgen's case). Pettersson and Frederic are both guys who fit our needs. I dont think the team is going to finish in the lotto top 10. They can't be worse and Igor always gets hot in the second half. Thats why they paid him.

 

[NYR Viper]

We may as well just suck it up and live with knowing Mika and his buddy are here until next Summer ....and maybe longer for at least Mika .

Does anybody have a possible scenario for our D next season which I would consider to be the backbone of team success and or lack of . Will it all hinge on what we do with Kreider ??? I know we will need some/how many ? additions but I have no idea on what we have to spend on the D . Can we retain Borgen-Urho and Miller.............................Lindgren ?

Can we or would we want Lindgren back for 2 ?? Million a season as our 3rd pairing guy and we play a zone D ? He is a loyal soldier....he might stay for a 3 yr deal . I think he would be fine in a new system and at #6 position back there . Slotted/priced correctly I think he stays .

A lot depends on the type of cap space that’s available and what they are able to secure at the deadline. It’s possible that a possible Kreider trade returns a good, developing young defenseman who could start in the NHL next year in a depth role.

Overall, I think the right move is Lindgren gone, possibly Borgen as well. I’d consider signing Borgen as a UFA if he makes it. I’d seriously consider Gavrikov at ~$5.75-6.25m per season as well.

Just as an example of what I mean:

Deadline
Borgen to Colorado for COL 2nd + 3rd
Kreider to LA for Jeannot + 1st + 2nd + 2nd
Lindgren to Minnesota for 2nd + 5th
Smith at 50% to Vegas for 2nd
Jones to Utah for 3rd + 6th

Offseason
Id consider trading a 6th to Colorado for Borgen’s rights to re-sign him. Say 4 years at $3.25m per season

Sign Gavrikov for 7 years at $6m per season

Gavrikov-Fox
Miller-Borgen
Vaak-Schneider

That’s a much improved defense and it’s not really all that expensive honestly. You could convince me of trading Miller in a package or by himself for a comparable young forward and signing Orlov to a 3 year deal. I like the way he plays in general and I think he’d fit with the type of player the back end could use.

 

[leetch99]

bold move coming here talking about resigning lindgren. very bold. let's see how it goes

He might be all we can afford if he would sign for 2 million . There are so many moving pieces on roster compilation for next year I doubt even Drury knows at this stage who to focus on or exactly how much operating cap he has to work with .

All of our problems won't get solved next season and we simply might have to live with some decisions . It is always the same ....every season there is a D whipping boy on here . Slot him at 3rd pairing and rotate him in and out as needed if a young kid needs some integration .

Anyways...we will see what unfolds . I suspect though that he will be traded as I tend to think some Cup bound teams will see him as a guy that will give it his all every game for 16 playoff wins .

But....he also could come back in the Summer and resign.......LOL...

 

[leetch99]

A lot depends on the type of cap space that’s available and what they are able to secure at the deadline. It’s possible that a possible Kreider trade returns a good, developing young defenseman who could start in the NHL next year in a depth role.

Overall, I think the right move is Lindgren gone, possibly Borgen as well. I’d consider signing Borgen as a UFA if he makes it. I’d seriously consider Gavrikov at ~$5.75-6.25m per season as well.

Just as an example of what I mean:

Deadline
Borgen to Colorado for COL 2nd + 3rd
Kreider to LA for Jeannot + 1st + 2nd + 2nd
Lindgren to Minnesota for 2nd + 5th
Smith at 50% to Vegas for 2nd
Jones to Utah for 3rd + 6th

Offseason
Id consider trading a 6th to Colorado for Borgen’s rights to re-sign him. Say 4 years at $3.25m per season

Sign Gavrikov for 7 years at $6m per season

Gavrikov-Fox
Miller-Borgen
Vaak-Schneider

That’s a much improved defense and it’s not really all that expensive honestly. You could convince me of trading Miller in a package or by himself for a comparable young forward and signing Orlov to a 3 year deal. I like the way he plays in general and I think he’d fit with the type of player the back end could use.

Yes....looks great on here but there are no signing amounts for Miller ? How high can we go if we spend 6 on Gavrikov ? That is what I am wondering about . I do like the fact that Urho is here and we can gently insert Mancini in and out as needed .

 

[duhmetreE]

A lot depends on the type of cap space that’s available and what they are able to secure at the deadline. It’s possible that a possible Kreider trade returns a good, developing young defenseman who could start in the NHL next year in a depth role.

Overall, I think the right move is Lindgren gone, possibly Borgen as well. I’d consider signing Borgen as a UFA if he makes it. I’d seriously consider Gavrikov at ~$5.75-6.25m per season as well.

Just as an example of what I mean:

Deadline
Borgen to Colorado for COL 2nd + 3rd
Kreider to LA for Jeannot + 1st + 2nd + 2nd
Lindgren to Minnesota for 2nd + 5th
Smith at 50% to Vegas for 2nd
Jones to Utah for 3rd + 6th

Offseason
Id consider trading a 6th to Colorado for Borgen’s rights to re-sign him. Say 4 years at $3.25m per season

Sign Gavrikov for 7 years at $6m per season

Gavrikov-Fox
Miller-Borgen
Vaak-Schneider

That’s a much improved defense and it’s not really all that expensive honestly. You could convince me of trading Miller in a package or by himself for a comparable young forward and signing Orlov to a 3 year deal. I like the way he plays in general and I think he’d fit with the type of player the back end could use.

I like that D-group.

I wonder if LA would take Kreider and Lindgren for Turcotte + pick.

I know Borgen will have value, but he's a guy we can't get away just for mid-round picks. He's big, strong, mobile and plays with an edge. He doesn't suck with the puck.

 

[Vitto79]

NO
why constantly giving away quality youth w/upside for vets?


yes but that's not saying much and not at the cost of Mancini


full agree


no ...


... x2


... x3


... x4

Rempe may never be across the board all star w/zero holes in his game, but he has legit NHL talent, and given he needs to compete vs actual NHL talent to get to that final level, he MUST be HERE now

The fact that you have to put X all our posts should tell you you’re not seeing how bad Rempe really is

Dudes a liability . The end

 

[LORDE]

Drury better be weaponizing the cap space this season... it's like free assets

 

[DialUp]

The Rangers are closer the last in the conference than they are to the last playoff spot.

Unless they pull a St Louis Blues turnaround quick, they better sell the shit out of this team at the deadline.

 

[leetch99]

Unless they pull a St Louis Blues turnaround quick, they better sell the shit out of this team at the deadline.

Well....they best get at least 9-10 pts out of the possible 14 pts available . If not....then we are experiencing engine troubles over shark infested waters !

 

[Vitto79]

Unless they pull a St Louis Blues turnaround quick, they better sell the shit out of this team at the deadline.

Well the thing is they don’t have to do soon
They likely try and make the playoffs right up to the week before the deadline

Yes....looks great on here but there are no signing amounts for Miller ? How high can we go if we spend 6 on Gavrikov ? That is what I am wondering about . I do like the fact that Urho is here and we can gently insert Mancini in and out as needed .

Urho likely is the 7th next year assuming he doesn’t ask for a raise as an RFA

Miller is going to get another bridge because he’s been blah so say 5?

with Lindgren out they can give a ufa like Gavrikov a good amount

 

[kovazub94]

A lot depends on the type of cap space that’s available and what they are able to secure at the deadline. It’s possible that a possible Kreider trade returns a good, developing young defenseman who could start in the NHL next year in a depth role.

Overall, I think the right move is Lindgren gone, possibly Borgen as well. I’d consider signing Borgen as a UFA if he makes it. I’d seriously consider Gavrikov at ~$5.75-6.25m per season as well.

Just as an example of what I mean:

Deadline
Borgen to Colorado for COL 2nd + 3rd
Kreider to LA for Jeannot + 1st + 2nd + 2nd
Lindgren to Minnesota for 2nd + 5th
Smith at 50% to Vegas for 2nd
Jones to Utah for 3rd + 6th

Offseason
Id consider trading a 6th to Colorado for Borgen’s rights to re-sign him. Say 4 years at $3.25m per season

Sign Gavrikov for 7 years at $6m per season

Gavrikov-Fox
Miller-Borgen
Vaak-Schneider

That’s a much improved defense and it’s not really all that expensive honestly. You could convince me of trading Miller in a package or by himself for a comparable young forward and signing Orlov to a 3 year deal. I like the way he plays in general and I think he’d fit with the type of player the back end could use.

Yes, I’m on board for moving Miller who should bring a nice haul and replacing him with a solid top-4 vet like Orlov. Drury can think a bit outside the box if he finds a good target at RD shifting Schneider to LD.

I also like your proposals. There’re plenty of roster reshaping but without the burn it to the ground ridiculousness. Similarly from the other end - advocating for giving Rantanen $13-$14 for 7-8 years in place of Panarin at $11 for the next year and then say $9 for another 3? Hmmm