Just the other day a Rangers poster was lamenting his television subscriber getting cut off by MSG network. Hardly the first time that something like that has happened and often enough to loads of people. The now late owner Charles Dolan as head of Cablevision use to bend fans over in such way like every other year. He was known to be just a little bit ruthless and if you happened to have the wrong cable company too f***ing bad. When the dust finally settled it settled just the way he wanted it to.
I don't really remember a time when the owners of the Rangers have been at the mercy of Rangers fans for anything. It's kind of always been the other way around. One owner back in the 70's was asked by a television journalist Jerry Eisenberg (sp? some name like that) on WPIX or WOR or whatever if he had to choose between winning a Stanley Cup or turning a profit any given year.....which option he would choose? and he opted for the money. He was a rich businessman first and foremost and at least he was honest about that.
Honestly Bern this idea that Rangers fans have any real power as far as management decisions from the top or even from the GM is delusional and I think at least a decent majority of the posters who post on this forum realize that very well.
That said Mika might get moved anyway if we can find someone willing to take a chance on his long term contract. A team perhaps that's having issues with a player of their own. It won't be because Rangers fans are unhappy. The reason that Drury might want to move Mika is Mika's been costing us games and that can lead to Drury being replaced and if that happens the new guy will come in and do this, that and the next and Jimmy Dolan will go back to playing his guitar at any bar venue that will have him. He doesn't think about you and he doesn't think about me. Why would he? He has no clue who the f*** we are.
1. First bold is provisionally untrue.
Yes, 99% of the regular time, it applies as you say. BUT it is fair for me to point out that you are ignoring THE FACT it REMAINS a
NUCLEAR option.
We don't want to go there.
It is easy to destroy and harder to create/build/rebuild.
BUT it remains true, IF we actually go there, and not merely passively do not support, but actively boycott this team -- and there are many avenues for that -- then ownership will care.
Their only ultimate counter, besides capitulating to us fans and giving us the respect we deserve, is after losing enough $$$ and garnering enuf ill will, is to move the team.
When that happens, our ultimate prevail is for NHL to allow a different franchise to come here, which would certainly happen in NYC, the world's largest market.
2. second bold. You are correct as to that applying now; but now is not always and to the extent the future can be shaped, does not automatically apply as a constant.
Columbus was always correct, up to a point.
He thought you can 'go east by going west'.
He thought he would get to Cathay and that would have otherwise been true except America was in the way, but he was fundamentally correct.
The fact he was scorned and unsupported for some time until he got his ships and proved he was right does not mean he was wrong at square 1, and then became right; he was always right on that item.
I am not yet recognized as a Renaissance man, tho I have works of both academia and entertainment that have passed muster/earned acclaim.
I am below the radar.
It is not just Dolan.
Nobody knows I exist.
Gotta find an agent, get discovered, etc.
The biggest shoe that will eventually drop is my theory on how to restructure the international monetary system. It will change the world for the better. Once enough critical study takes place to certify academic validation, which ostensibly could = Nobel Prize, etc., I will then have that level of stature and celebrity status, at which pt Dolan will invite my comments on not only the Rangers/Knicks, but other subjects as well.
Finally, do not accept submission from power, including that by having ownership and/or mgmt ignore you. Only the ultimate power that is God deserves such surrender. With an open mind, try to promote progress for the benefit of all, examining the merits of all opinions tendered.
Probably in the New York Post podcast.
Well, unless you are secretly Hypnotoad, I don't see how the fans will collectively abandon the team because... this is convoluted-- because the management won't support fans over players by not trading players the fans want traded even though those players have no-move-protection and the players are supposed to play for the team, which serves the fans so play for the fans and not for the team if that actually means each other. Because they aren't the team. The team is an eternal and metaphysical concept.
Bold is not true.
Team exists only if it is supported.
It is not as you suggest, permanent and in a vacuum regardless of support.
It would require a nuclear option, but that is real to the extent it is possible it can be done if unavoidable.
This club could lose all of us tomorrow and just do a marketing pivot with a few dragons and dinosaurs and Mr Beast and replace us with 10 year olds or worse yet investment bankers
Part of the issue that seems to have burned the players are forced trades and even if Mika does agree to go somewhere who knows if that opens that can of worms again.
The Rangers signed Mika to a contract that had certain stipulations and in principle they are as binding to that contract as Mika is. The team not abiding by its contractural agreements appears to be how at least some of the players perceive the Goodrow and Trouba moves. So yes and no and maybe who knows how this is going to end right now. I don't have a crystal ball. Some recent report had Mika accepting if the Rangers could work out a deal with a team or certain finite number of teams. It wasn't clear whether it was one particular team, a few or several. My guess is they will trade Kreider and make an attempt to force Mika to accept a trade. He might be more willing to go if Kreider moves. They seem extremely close.
It's a business we hear all the times these days. When I was younger I never heard that. For fans at least back then it was just a sport. Trades did happen then though as they do now.
bold is true but I'd rather pay and jettison Mika now and deal with what develops than have him remain
I also don't want a scenario where he stays and Kreider goes first to induce him to go. NO, eff him, we will assess Kreider properly later and keep or deal on the merits including value of actual trade offers. Mika deserves it so he goes NOW
