Speculation: Roster Building Thread : Part XV (Light em up!)

[bernmeister]

50% retention for 5 years on Zibanejad is absolutely batshit insane

not even a fraction of how crazy it is to expect/ask another team to eat big salary when his level of play lately is so totally piss poor

also, alternative is to keep him which is a greater disaster

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

Rangers are not in a position to make a 2 for 1 trade where they are trading the 2 roster players from the assumed future core going forward. Especially if one of those players is a LHD and there isn't one coming back.

 

[stan the caddy]

Getting JT Miller back would be so NY Rangers. We were idiots to let him go in that deal, he goes and plays like an All Star in Vancouver, and then we bring him back to watch him underachieve and collect a paycheck.

I mean why not? Sell low, buy high.

 

[GAGLine]

Peterson only a year older than miller, same draft as Chytil .

Okay, but you included Laf as well, and that doesn't solve the Mika problem.

 

[duhmetreE]

Peterson only a year older than miller, same draft as Chytil .

oh you were talking about Pettersson.... either way.... I do not want another introverted type to add to Kreider and Zibs. It will be just more of the same

We're suppose to be changing the out the core for some attitude/fire.

 

[JohnC]

Getting JT Miller back would be so NY Rangers. We were idiots to let him go in that deal, he goes and plays like an All Star in Vancouver, and then we bring him back to watch him underachieve and collect a paycheck.

I mean why not? Sell low, buy high.

It would be sick to see him come cherry-pick for offense, play negative defense, and start on ice fights with every teammate he doesn’t vibe with though.

 

[DanielBrassard]

oh you were talking about Pettersson.... either way.... I do not want another introverted type to add to Kreider and Zibs. It will be just more of the same

We're suppose to be changing the out the core for some attitude/fire.

We also need high end skill, which is more important than off-ice nonsense.

 

[duhmetreE]

It would be sick to see him come cherry-pick for offense, play negative defense, and start on ice fights with every teammate he doesn’t vibe with though.

this is the only reason to make a JTM trade. IF it's not a 'base' type swap ( minor additions are expected ) It serves no purpose.

 

[MrAlmost]

Until such time that it's JT Miller, I'll hope it's Pettersson.

Chytil, Lindgren, Schneider, Othmann. Miller instead of Schneider. Maybe they are dumb and it can be just Lindgren. He's still young and maybe they don't know.

They are in as much turmoil as we are. They aren't getting full value for their players just like we won't, which is actually what makes them a match.

Elliott Friedman doesnt know shit. If it's Miller, the base is Mika.

 

[duhmetreE]

trading for JTM or Pettersson, Zibs and/or Kreider have to be moved. Pettersson makes 11.6.

IF it's Pettersson they want, fine... but you have to move out cap first.

 

[bernmeister]

WTF!!!!??????????!!!!!

on what basis?

Rangers are not in a position to make a 2 for 1 trade where they are trading the 2 roster players from the assumed future core going forward. Especially if one of those players is a LHD and there isn't one coming back.

I don't give a flying or stationary fug about short term ramifications.
Move older mo expensive vets for more desirable quality youth
if that takes multiple steps to do, fine

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

Here's the thing:

We rational people wouldn't trade Lafreniere or Perreault or our lottery first round pick for JT Miller. But this is Chris Drury we're talking about.

WTF!!!!??????????!!!!!

on what basis?

Oh, Berny, Berny, Berny....

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

Is Vaak an rfa with arb rights this summer or ufa?

 

[NYRFANMANI]

A JT Miller for Mika swap seems very unlikely value-wise.

The JT Miller contract is way easier to maneuver. M-NTC after this year. Mika still has to waive, but I guess he would for VAN, Swedes have a long and successful history there (Naslund, Sedins, Salo, Edler, EP and so on) the nature is close by and more Sweden-like than NY and surroundings, I guess.

Mika + a 2nd in 2067 should do it hopefully.

And look at this golden nugget I found on the Mika deal. Here I was thinking it's a full NMC for the entirety of the contract!! But no, get this:

"No Move clause until 7 days prior to Trade Deadline in Year 8, at that point it converts to 21 team No Trade List"

Well thank f***ing god for that.

BTW: If a player waives the NMC is that for the entire remaining contract? Or only for that specific trade?

 

[cheech70]

A JT Miller for Mika swap seems very unlikely value-wise.

The JT Miller contract is way easier to maneuver. M-NTC after this year. Mika still has to waive, but I guess he would for VAN, Swedes have a long and successful history there (Naslund, Sedins, Salo, Edler, EP and so on) the nature is close by and more Sweden-like than NY and surroundings, I guess.

Mika + a 2nd in 2067 should do it hopefully.

And look at this nugget I found on the Mika deal. Here I was thinking it's a full NMC for the entirety of the contract!! But no, get this golden nugget:

"No Move clause until 7 days prior to Trade Deadline in Year 8, at that point it converts to 21 team No Trade List"

Well thank f***ing god for that.

BTW: If a player waives the NMC is that for the entire remaining contract? Or only for that specific trade?

Love it...i think nmc is permanently removed from the agreement moving forward.

 

[mike14]

Is Vaak an rfa with arb rights this summer or ufa?

Rfa, but only 1 season away from ufa

 

[NYRFANMANI]

Is Vaak an rfa with arb rights this summer or ufa?

Shit, I thought he was younger and thus a no-brainer RFA.

Dude's 26 and will be RFA after the season. I guess it's the birth date.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

my guess is that van’s GM is trying to currently get drury to budge on schneider

gonna guess:

mika, schneider, othmann for miller, hoglander, rando, 2nd

and we’ll all hate it

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

Shit, I thought he was younger and thus a no-brainer RFA.

Dude's 26 and will be RFA after the season. I guess it's the birth date.

Yeah he just turned 26 on the 1st of January.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

It would be sick to see him come cherry-pick for offense, play negative defense, and start on ice fights with every teammate he doesn’t vibe with though.

Chris Drury gets his man though

 

[NYRFANMANI]

my guess is that van’s GM is trying to currently get drury to budge on schneider

gonna guess:

mika, schneider, othmann for miller, hoglander, rando, 2nd

and we’ll all hate it

I'd hate losing Schneider. Othmann I really don't care about rn. The return is kinda ok though.

 

[IDvsEGO]

A JT Miller for Mika swap seems very unlikely value-wise.

The JT Miller contract is way easier to maneuver. M-NTC after this year. Mika still has to waive, but I guess he would for VAN, Swedes have a long and successful history there (Naslund, Sedins, Salo, Edler, EP and so on) the nature is close by and more Sweden-like than NY and surroundings, I guess.

Mika + a 2nd in 2067 should do it hopefully.

And look at this nugget I found on the Mika deal. Here I was thinking it's a full NMC for the entirety of the contract!! But no, get this golden nugget:

"No Move clause until 7 days prior to Trade Deadline in Year 8, at that point it converts to 21 team No Trade List"

Well thank f***ing god for that.

BTW: If a player waives the NMC is that for the entire remaining contract? Or only for that specific trade?

That specific trade.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Okay, but you included Laf as well, and that doesn't solve the Mika problem.

We can’t trade Mika, best we can do is bump him down to 3C

 

[mike14]

Love it...i think nmc is permanently removed from the agreement moving forward.

Didn't they clarify this in the 2020 MOU to say that the clause always travels with the player if they are moved?
I don't know how that works with No Trade lists (can the player change the teams on it after a move?)

 

[duhmetreE]

We can’t trade Mika, best we can do is bump him down to 3C

that money doesn't work and will just handcuff in other areas.

3 players making 11.5+... none of which are going to carry or lead a team to a cup imo